That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...
Discussion
Mave said:
I was talking about your accusing me of being a troll, not Mr Gear. On PH I have previously criticised cyclists for their behaviour. I have repeatedly explicitly not supported the event that toxicnerve encountered. So why does that make me a troll?
OK good I don't think you are a troll then. I don't agree that the participants to CM should be allowed to flout laws though, for their safety, the safety of others etc.Strawman said:
Mave said:
I was talking about your accusing me of being a troll, not Mr Gear. On PH I have previously criticised cyclists for their behaviour. I have repeatedly explicitly not supported the event that toxicnerve encountered. So why does that make me a troll?
OK good I don't think you are a troll then. I don't agree that the participants to CM should be allowed to flout laws though, for their safety, the safety of others etc.Heaveho said:
Maybe you should try thinking it through.........most other forms of road users don't do what the op is describing, i.e., block the roads for no other reason than that they feel like it. The fact that some idiot has decreed it legal is neither here nor there, that just displays a lack of basic common sense, it's allowing a minority to disrupt the majority, and for no good reason.
I find it ridiculous that it's legal for a vehicle to be travelling at 15mph on a 40 limit road, with a massive queue of traffic behind it, and the rider either oblivious or uncaring as to the issues he or she is causing. If you were to drive in a car on a motorway in that manner, you'd be stopped and questioned as to what the hell you thought you were doing.
If a vehicle can't make progress without impinging on others, it's unfit for purpose. Edited to add, I get held up by tractors on occasion, but at least the drivers of these are courteous enough to understand what they're doing, and pull over to help when they can.
Blimey, you've just described the motor car to a tee. Based on my twice daily experience from what I see in my car, we do block the roads because we feel like it, we know the impact we'll make every time we use our cars, we can't make the speed limit, my average speed can be as low as 12 mph and it'll never be 30 mph.I find it ridiculous that it's legal for a vehicle to be travelling at 15mph on a 40 limit road, with a massive queue of traffic behind it, and the rider either oblivious or uncaring as to the issues he or she is causing. If you were to drive in a car on a motorway in that manner, you'd be stopped and questioned as to what the hell you thought you were doing.
If a vehicle can't make progress without impinging on others, it's unfit for purpose. Edited to add, I get held up by tractors on occasion, but at least the drivers of these are courteous enough to understand what they're doing, and pull over to help when they can.
Edited by Heaveho on Sunday 30th August 12:44
The vehicles cannot make progress at all, so no, as a commuting vehicle at the very least they're totally unfit for purpose.
We should also talk more about people parking cars on roads, because that causes delays totally out of proportion to anything any other road user will cause.
Strawman said:
Mave said:
Oh, so a troll is only a troll if they ride a bike and disagree with the PH massive, right?
Would you agree Mr Gear is a troll?On this thread, he even admits it
Mr Gear said:
You're obviously easily wound up. I can see why the cyclists enjoyed messing with you.
I've certainly had a great time.
In all your contributions to PH have you ever criticised any cyclist for their behaviour? Or are you just another inane last word specialist who can't admit that snow is indeed white?I've certainly had a great time.
But the fact is, the OP saying 'I'm done with cyclists' because he ran into a critical mass meeting is still one of the stupidest things I've read on here, and pointing that out isn't trolling.
If you want to join him in looking stupid, that's up to you.
heebeegeetee said:
Heaveho said:
Maybe you should try thinking it through.........most other forms of road users don't do what the op is describing, i.e., block the roads for no other reason than that they feel like it. The fact that some idiot has decreed it legal is neither here nor there, that just displays a lack of basic common sense, it's allowing a minority to disrupt the majority, and for no good reason.
I find it ridiculous that it's legal for a vehicle to be travelling at 15mph on a 40 limit road, with a massive queue of traffic behind it, and the rider either oblivious or uncaring as to the issues he or she is causing. If you were to drive in a car on a motorway in that manner, you'd be stopped and questioned as to what the hell you thought you were doing.
If a vehicle can't make progress without impinging on others, it's unfit for purpose. Edited to add, I get held up by tractors on occasion, but at least the drivers of these are courteous enough to understand what they're doing, and pull over to help when they can.
Blimey, you've just described the motor car to a tee. Based on my twice daily experience from what I see in my car, we do block the roads because we feel like it, we know the impact we'll make every time we use our cars, we can't make the speed limit, my average speed can be as low as 12 mph and it'll never be 30 mph.I find it ridiculous that it's legal for a vehicle to be travelling at 15mph on a 40 limit road, with a massive queue of traffic behind it, and the rider either oblivious or uncaring as to the issues he or she is causing. If you were to drive in a car on a motorway in that manner, you'd be stopped and questioned as to what the hell you thought you were doing.
If a vehicle can't make progress without impinging on others, it's unfit for purpose. Edited to add, I get held up by tractors on occasion, but at least the drivers of these are courteous enough to understand what they're doing, and pull over to help when they can.
Edited by Heaveho on Sunday 30th August 12:44
The vehicles cannot make progress at all, so no, as a commuting vehicle at the very least they're totally unfit for purpose.
We should also talk more about people parking cars on roads, because that causes delays totally out of proportion to anything any other road user will cause.
227bhp said:
I'm cycling the other day up a one way street with cars parked down one side, it's uphill and i'm slow. Behind me I can hear 'Duff duff duff, boom boom boom', I glance round and there is some kid in a Corsa who can't pass.
So what to do?
I hopped up onto the deserted pavement via a lowered kerb, Corsaboy comes past slowly. I look across at him and he grins and gives me the thumbs up for letting him through, job done.
It's as easy as that.
As a comparison, it's like waiting at the supermarket checkout with a full trolley when you notice the person behind you only has one or two items, you let them go first, they are grateful and it makes for a pleasant day.So what to do?
I hopped up onto the deserted pavement via a lowered kerb, Corsaboy comes past slowly. I look across at him and he grins and gives me the thumbs up for letting him through, job done.
It's as easy as that.
I guess some people in this world don't do things like that because they don't have too ?
Strawman said:
Dishonest as well, remember the Terms and conditions you signed up to where you agreed to not post content for annoyance? Explain what you see as the difference between 'enjoying winding someone up' and posting content for annoyance.
Go re read it. He was winding himself up. And being a horrible bigot. I can't believe you'll wade in to defend such stupidity.I was merely pointing out his bigotry and enjoying his hilarious responses.
Mr Gear said:
Go re read it. He was winding himself up. And being a horrible bigot. I can't believe you'll wade in to defend such stupidity.
If you can't see the bigotry in your own position or accept others point of view then you are the tiresome bigot.Mr Gear said:
I was merely pointing out his bigotry and enjoying his hilarious responses.
But you said you were enjoying winding him up, in the same way the CriticalMassholes will have done. That is not merely 'pointing something out' but siding with the antagonists.thetrash said:
heebeegeetee said:
Heaveho said:
Maybe you should try thinking it through.........most other forms of road users don't do what the op is describing, i.e., block the roads for no other reason than that they feel like it. The fact that some idiot has decreed it legal is neither here nor there, that just displays a lack of basic common sense, it's allowing a minority to disrupt the majority, and for no good reason.
I find it ridiculous that it's legal for a vehicle to be travelling at 15mph on a 40 limit road, with a massive queue of traffic behind it, and the rider either oblivious or uncaring as to the issues he or she is causing. If you were to drive in a car on a motorway in that manner, you'd be stopped and questioned as to what the hell you thought you were doing.
If a vehicle can't make progress without impinging on others, it's unfit for purpose. Edited to add, I get held up by tractors on occasion, but at least the drivers of these are courteous enough to understand what they're doing, and pull over to help when they can.
Blimey, you've just described the motor car to a tee. Based on my twice daily experience from what I see in my car, we do block the roads because we feel like it, we know the impact we'll make every time we use our cars, we can't make the speed limit, my average speed can be as low as 12 mph and it'll never be 30 mph.I find it ridiculous that it's legal for a vehicle to be travelling at 15mph on a 40 limit road, with a massive queue of traffic behind it, and the rider either oblivious or uncaring as to the issues he or she is causing. If you were to drive in a car on a motorway in that manner, you'd be stopped and questioned as to what the hell you thought you were doing.
If a vehicle can't make progress without impinging on others, it's unfit for purpose. Edited to add, I get held up by tractors on occasion, but at least the drivers of these are courteous enough to understand what they're doing, and pull over to help when they can.
Edited by Heaveho on Sunday 30th August 12:44
The vehicles cannot make progress at all, so no, as a commuting vehicle at the very least they're totally unfit for purpose.
We should also talk more about people parking cars on roads, because that causes delays totally out of proportion to anything any other road user will cause.
People seem to have become e confused with the House of Lords ruling, which means the gathering is legal, and the fact the riders wilfully obstruct side streets junctions and ride through red lights, which contravenes many rules and regulations. As far as I can see, this is what annoys people far more than encountering many bikes at once, once a month.
Mave said:
anonymous said:
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Well, people have suggested that bikes aren't "fit for purpose" as they can't reach the speed limit and they have no right to hold up faster traffic...Holding up a faster vehicle seems a bit selfish to me.
The general 'I'm doing something good for the plant so f
k you' attitude can be the problem. Boshly said:
People seem to have become e confused with the House of Lords ruling, which means the gathering is legal, and the fact the riders wilfully obstruct side streets junctions and ride through red lights, which contravenes many rules and regulations. As far as I can see, this is what annoys people far more than encountering many bikes at once, once a month.
I think it's you that's confused with that ruling.That ruling held CM to be a procession - so RTA does not apply - and customarily held - so it doesn't need the route to be notified to the Police in advance.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/26/critical...
SidewaysSi said:
Mave said:
anonymous said:
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Well, people have suggested that bikes aren't "fit for purpose" as they can't reach the speed limit and they have no right to hold up faster traffic...Holding up a faster vehicle seems a bit selfish to me.
And for what it's worth, barging past slower traffic is just as inconsiderate as holding up faster traffic, whilst also being more dangerous.
TooMany2cvs said:
Boshly said:
People seem to have become e confused with the House of Lords ruling, which means the gathering is legal, and the fact the riders wilfully obstruct side streets junctions and ride through red lights, which contravenes many rules and regulations. As far as I can see, this is what annoys people far more than encountering many bikes at once, once a month.
I think it's you that's confused with that ruling.That ruling held CM to be a procession - so RTA does not apply - and customarily held - so it doesn't need the route to be notified to the Police in advance.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/26/critical...
Mave said:
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Strawman said:
I'll just assume your are another trolling cycling enthusiast that seems to have infested PH.
Well said. It's always the same small minority of posters too.If you look at the posts where I've been accused of being a troll, my posts have been calm, unconfrontational, unambiguous, and uninflammatory. So how does that make me a troll? Or is it simply the case that referring to someone as a troll is a convenient deflection tactic?
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