Sold a Car that has broken down HELP ASAP

Sold a Car that has broken down HELP ASAP

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tony wright

1,004 posts

250 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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I assume, as the buyer purchased the car from your Pistonheads advert the chances are he's reading this eek especially with the topic heading you used. Before anyone asks, no it's not me laugh

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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tony wright said:
I assume, as the buyer purchased the car from your Pistonheads advert the chances are he's reading this eek especially with the topic heading you used. Before anyone asks, no it's not me laugh
It could be 'interesting' if he is.

Maybe he could put forward his side. Get a print-out of the engine, max revs etc in the last while.


Maybe he could explain what faults he found on the test drive and what faults were picked up during his inspection prior to buying it.


Jasandjules

69,889 posts

229 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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No Bend said:
That sounds like the right sort of waffle to combat his waffle.
Indeed, once someone starts spouting about recission etc in the first letter they send, well......

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

212 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Someone else's car has broken down?

Shame.

/endthread

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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bhstewie said:
Normal people (i.e. not legally trained) don't write letters like that
Legally trained people don't write like that either, unless they are bellends.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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williamp said:
Someone with more contract law then me will confirm I am sure: he cannot reject the car. You are not a dealer, so he cannot reject the car.
You are wrong about that. A right to reject goods can arise in any contract of sale, but whether it arises in this case is a question of fact.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Jasandjules said:
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As you are aware a private sale is not covered by the Sale of Goods Act.
WRONG! The Act applies to all sales. Some parts of the Act only apply to sales made in the course of business.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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MX51ROD said:
Not seen in the thread , but was a "sold as seen " or similar wording receipt.signed by both parties
issued when the car was sold
How and by whom would such a thing be "issued"? Do you perhaps mean "did someone write some stuff on a bit of paper"? Law is not sorcery! There are no magic words, and documents are not "issued" when some bloke buys a car off some other bloke.


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 30th August 21:23

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Breaders back in action.

  • gets popcorn...

dave123456

1,854 posts

147 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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johnfm said:
Breaders back in action.

  • gets popcorn...
yes, if sardonic panto villains are your thing.

No Bend

591 posts

122 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
How and by whom would such a thing be "issued"? Do you perhaps mean "did someone write some stuff on a bit of paper"? Law is not sorcery! There are no magic words, and documents are not "issued" when some bloke buys a car off some other bloke.


Edited by Breadvan72 on Sunday 30th August 21:23


A receipt of sale would be a document that is 'issued' when some bloke buys a car off some other bloke, no? The stuff you sign and send off to the DVLA is a document as well, isn't it?

Variomatic

2,392 posts

161 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
[...] Law is not sorcery! There are no magic words [...]


Edited by Breadvan72 on Sunday 30th August 21:23
Wot? Not even Latin ones????

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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CaptainSlow said:
No he didn't. However, it something I'm always careful of avoiding when advertising cars, always stick to facts that you can substantiate...never give an opinion on condition...certainly never use that well known phrase "as good as new".
This. FWIW I think the OP is in the right and this seems a bit like a scam given how quickly they wrote to the OP demanding money. However as soon as any claim/opinion is given about the condition of the car - being a good runner, good condition, reliable, etc, then it is dodgy ground if this type of situation arises post sale. Better off just to stick to the facts, especially in any written communication.

I recently managed to claim back £1100 from a dealer due to misrepresentation because they used a seemingly innocuous phrase like this in their advert and the car subsequently turned out to have issues. Mainly wear and tear stuff so I would have been difficult to get them under SOGA alone.


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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No Bend said:
Breadvan72 said:
How and by whom would such a thing be "issued"? Do you perhaps mean "did someone write some stuff on a bit of paper"? Law is not sorcery! There are no magic words, and documents are not "issued" when some bloke buys a car off some other bloke.


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 30th August 21:23


A receipt of sale would be a document that is 'issued' when some bloke buys a car off some other bloke, no? The stuff you sign and send off to the DVLA is a document as well, isn't it?
I was having a pop at the needless formality that enters some posters' language when they start talking of legal issues. Plain English is always preferable to cant and jargon. If X sells a car to Y and scribbles "blah blah blah" on a bit of paper, it is daft to talk of that document being "issued". The V5 is a document, but so what? So is a shopping list. The poster who used the term "issued" is apparently a fan of a rubbish consumer website which he mistakenly believes to be populated by "legal experts". Real legal experts use plain English, not wibble wobble.

Incognegro

1,560 posts

133 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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I know nothing about the S2000 but I've seen a few scammers before. After 10miles he hears a knocking (that you never noticed in your time). How does he know that's not a characteristic of the car? Seems to me like he has read up on issues on what drives costs down and is playing a game!

Either way it's not your issue, either full refund less damage he just did in the 10miles and take car back or tell him sorry mate it's not my car but I know a garage you can call!

Don't get sucked in mate.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Variomatic said:
Breadvan72 said:
[...] Law is not sorcery! There are no magic words [...]
Wot? Not even Latin ones????
Confundo!


Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 31st August 08:48

BertBert

19,039 posts

211 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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VolvoT5 said:
This. FWIW I think the OP is in the right and this seems a bit like a scam given how quickly they wrote to the OP demanding money. However as soon as any claim/opinion is given about the condition of the car - being a good runner, good condition, reliable, etc, then it is dodgy ground if this type of situation arises post sale. Better off just to stick to the facts, especially in any written communication.

I recently managed to claim back £1100 from a dealer due to misrepresentation because they used a seemingly innocuous phrase like this in their advert and the car subsequently turned out to have issues. Mainly wear and tear stuff so I would have been difficult to get them under SOGA alone.
But I think you are mistaken in this case. The op is not a mechanical expert, so if he says the car is reliable, that cannot be taken as a prediction of the future only a tale of the past. Of course it should be true but can only relate to the past not the future.

Of course the dealer claim is fascinating but not relevant.

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Did the OP ever answer the question did he hear the knocking noise when he turned up where the buyer was?

Variomatic

2,392 posts

161 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
Confundo!
A little rusty, but:

confundis
confundit
confundimus
confunditis
confundunt

possibly?

MX51ROD

2,749 posts

147 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Kin
Breadvan72 said:
MX51ROD said:
Not seen in the thread , but was a "sold as seen " or similar wording receipt.signed by both parties
issued when the car was sold
How and by whom would such a thing be "issued"? Do you perhaps mean "did someone write some stuff on a bit of paper"? Law is not sorcery! There are no magic words, and documents are not "issued" when some bloke buys a car off some other bloke.


Edited by Breadvan72 on Sunday 30th August 21:23
Good grief, get a life , exchanged then , happy now ,I was going to walk away from this pathetic series of exchanges which in essence give one simple bit of advice , walk away but the nitpicking and attempts to get one up on other posters is entertainment in a weird sort of way ,


Edited by MX51ROD on Monday 31st August 08:31