Won an Ebay auction, seller never sent off V5C/2

Won an Ebay auction, seller never sent off V5C/2

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AlexMG

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85 posts

146 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Hi All,

After finding a car on ebay and making a bid on my phone while out at the weekend things have gone a bit pear shaped with the seller.

The seller never actually sent off the V5C/2 so the current V5 is in the previous owners name with the V5C/2 filled in.

His solution to this was to just tip ex over it with my details when sending it off.

Other issues with the sale are making me doubt whether the seller is trustworthy with a strange reason for sale.

I'm the first person to say that you should never buy a 23 year old car with an MOT advisory for underside rust (though 12 months signed off on the 17th of august) sight unseen but no cars perfect.

I don't see any point in trying to grill the seller for more information now as if he wants to fob me off I'll only ever have his word for it.



Should I take the risk and tip ex over the V5C/2 and risk getting speeding tickets in the post from the interim owner or just walk away from this weird deal.

Many Thanks Guys!




kiethton

13,883 posts

179 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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I'd walk, espcially of its something reasonably mundane/available elsewhere

No Bend

591 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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AlexMG said:
Hi All,

After finding a car on ebay and making a bid on my phone while out at the weekend things have gone a bit pear shaped with the seller.

The seller never actually sent off the V5C/2 so the current V5 is in the previous owners name with the V5C/2 filled in.

His solution to this was to just tip ex over it with my details when sending it off.

Other issues with the sale are making me doubt whether the seller is trustworthy with a strange reason for sale.


Many Thanks Guys!
So are you saying you are trying got buy a car from someone that isn't the owner of the car according to the paperwork?

That makes sense. Sure, carry on with the deal and let us know how you go. When does school start again?

No Bend

591 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Actually, even better if the 'seller' backdates your purchase as to when he supposedly purchased the car from the previous owner.
Then you can have responsibility for all the speeding and parking fines he's racked up in the meantime.

AlexMG

Original Poster:

85 posts

146 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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No Bend said:
So are you saying you are trying got buy a car from someone that isn't the owner of the car according to the paperwork?

That makes sense. Sure, carry on with the deal and let us know how you go. When does school start again?
When you put it bluntly like that I realise how stupid my situation may come across but it's more that the sellers a lemon not the car.


Its a 1992 with 68,000 miles on it and a full MOT, attractive in an advert but not when you meet the seller!

No Bend

591 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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AlexMG said:
When you put it bluntly like that I realise how stupid my situation may come across but it's more that the sellers a lemon not the car.


Its a 1992 with 68,000 miles on it and a full MOT, attractive in an advert but not when you meet the seller!
Dude, I could sell you the Sydney Harbour Bridge. It's a toll bridge, has 10's of 1000's crossing it everyday, it's a real gold mine and a sound investment. I don't actually have the ownership papers with me right now, but just hand over some cash and i'll get them to you, I promise.

AlexMG

Original Poster:

85 posts

146 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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No Bend said:
Dude, I could sell you the Sydney Harbour Bridge. It's a toll bridge, has 10's of 1000's crossing it everyday, it's a real gold mine and a sound investment. I don't actually have the ownership papers with me right now, but just hand over some cash and i'll get them to you, I promise.
Thanks for slapping some sense into me!

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

227 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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No Bend said:
Dude, I could sell you the Sydney Harbour Bridge. It's a toll bridge, has 10's of 1000's crossing it everyday, it's a real gold mine and a sound investment. I don't actually have the ownership papers with me right now, but just hand over some cash and i'll get them to you, I promise.
fk off, I own that bridge.

BobSaunders

3,027 posts

154 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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OP. Is this a JAG in Liverpool? or a Audi?

If so, there is a very nice thread on BikeBanter about this car running over a biker and the driver trying to quickly offload the car...

The V5C slip was tip exed out as well.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by BobSaunders on Tuesday 1st September 11:10

MoggieMinor

457 posts

144 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Interesting coincidence if it is...

Vixpy1

42,620 posts

263 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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No Bend said:
AlexMG said:
Hi All,

After finding a car on ebay and making a bid on my phone while out at the weekend things have gone a bit pear shaped with the seller.

The seller never actually sent off the V5C/2 so the current V5 is in the previous owners name with the V5C/2 filled in.

His solution to this was to just tip ex over it with my details when sending it off.

Other issues with the sale are making me doubt whether the seller is trustworthy with a strange reason for sale.


Many Thanks Guys!
So are you saying you are trying got buy a car from someone that isn't the owner of the car according to the paperwork?

That makes sense. Sure, carry on with the deal and let us know how you go. When does school start again?
V5C has absolutely no bearing on ownership, I've bought numerous cars which are still in the previous keepers name because the seller is flipping the car. It keeps the number of owners down on the V5

No Bend

591 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Vixpy1 said:
V5C has absolutely no bearing on ownership, I've bought numerous cars which are still in the previous keepers name because the seller is flipping the car. It keeps the number of owners down on the V5
Thats why I asked the question.

Is what you do wise? Is there any way to tie the person you are buying from to the car? (Yes yes, can have bill of sale etc etc, but when it comes down to the crunch, there's dates on V5C's isn't there? Is that why the govt looks at as to who to send fines to?)

Hi

1,362 posts

177 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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You can now complete the logbook online, so why not do that at the sellers house? You need the reference number from the latest V5c, which by the sounds of it the seller has that document, just not with his details on. If you do it online in front of the seller then you can make sure the correct date is put on there, plus you get an email receipt to confirm.

R8Steve

4,150 posts

174 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Hi said:
You can now complete the logbook online, so why not do that at the sellers house? You need the reference number from the latest V5c, which by the sounds of it the seller has that document, just not with his details on. If you do it online in front of the seller then you can make sure the correct date is put on there, plus you get an email receipt to confirm.
How do you do this? I've never heard of being able to apply for a logbook or transfer one online.

No Bend

591 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Vixpy1 said:
V5C has absolutely no bearing on ownership, I've bought numerous cars which are still in the previous keepers name because the seller is flipping the car. It keeps the number of owners down on the V5
How do you prove ownership of the car if the name isn't on the V5?

MoggieMinor

457 posts

144 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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V5 isn't proof of ownership. It just shows who is responsible for licencing the vehicle.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

152 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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MoggieMinor said:
V5 isn't proof of ownership. It just shows who is responsible for licencing the vehicle.
How do you prove ownership then?

No Bend

591 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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MoggieMinor said:
V5 isn't proof of ownership. It just shows who is responsible for licencing the vehicle.
Ok, my question is how do you prove ownership of a vehicle? You'd want something to show that the person who you are about to hand a wad of money over to has the ability to sell you the car lawfully.

AlexMG

Original Poster:

85 posts

146 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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BobSaunders said:
OP. Is this a JAG in Liverpool? or a Audi?

If so, there is a very nice thread on BikeBanter about this car running over a biker and the driver trying to quickly offload the car...

The V5C slip was tip exed out as well.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by BobSaunders on Tuesday 1st September 11:10
Its an S13 200sx in the Midlands so no mistaking that!

akirk

5,376 posts

113 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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No Bend said:
MoggieMinor said:
V5 isn't proof of ownership. It just shows who is responsible for licencing the vehicle.
Ok, my question is how do you prove ownership of a vehicle? You'd want something to show that the person who you are about to hand a wad of money over to has the ability to sell you the car lawfully.
In theory a trail of paper from the original invoice when bought new - through a stash of sales receipts showing the chain of ownership...
In reality - good luck smile

In practice - checking for HPI / reported as stolen etc. is the only option...
if the previous owner's details are on the V5, contact them for confirmation...

having said that I have recently bought a 40+ year old car which came with the original sales invoice smile it hadn't been sold outside the family since new smile