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derin100 said:
Completely off-topic but...
This exactly like the E9 3.0CS that I bought in 1988 and kept for 13 years. The same Baikal Blue colour, the same interior, same wheels...the only difference was mine was manual. I bought as a one owner car with circa 70K miles on the clock IIRC for £1500 (because I couldn't afford an E24).
Granted that was a while ago and this one does only have 11K miles on the clock but....look at the price! If only, eh?
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C668599
That's a pretty special example for inflation comparison - <11k miles in 42 years and kept in a dry and salt-free climate.This exactly like the E9 3.0CS that I bought in 1988 and kept for 13 years. The same Baikal Blue colour, the same interior, same wheels...the only difference was mine was manual. I bought as a one owner car with circa 70K miles on the clock IIRC for £1500 (because I couldn't afford an E24).
Granted that was a while ago and this one does only have 11K miles on the clock but....look at the price! If only, eh?
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C668599
Even so, your example sounds lovely, love the CS.
Nice to hear Ross has made it back behind the bike-sheds with us barge smokers! 
I had a good weekend with my new 320 petrol 211. As promised, here are first impressions...
Picked it up on Friday morning and an hours drive home was pleasurable, the airmatic all round giving it a great floaty ride. Only problem I noted was that the comand kept nagging about not being able to read the nav dvd. I whipped the dvd out at home and gave it a clean and it's been fine since. The nav disk is a dodgy copy of a 2011update, I do have the original. I'm toying with trying to get hold of an image of a later map/firmware to burn to a dvd but not sure how safe that is.
Later on Friday, filled with wife and kids I drove it 250 miles North and it performed well. Indicated 30mpg over the trip and mostly doing a steady 79mph which I think must be about on par. It's more comfortable that the 124, I think because the ride is more compliant and a lighter interior makes it feel more airy and luxurious. Having 3x3 point belts across the back means we can put our youngest who's still in a rear facing seat on the edge of the bench rather than the middle which makes the car feel a lot less claustrophobic. It doesn't feel as well screwed together but not a world apart.
The return journey down South last night went well, the ambient lighting and dash etc. may be a novelty that'll wear off but made it feel special to me. The Harman-Kardon sound system is storming, particularly with dvd a soundtrack - time will tell if I miss the space in the boot the sub takes up. Right now it's been coded to allow dvd playback through the front screen on the move which the kids are very excited about, but I might get that de-activated due to insurance concerns. They are better off with tablets anyway I think.
I think the car is good, I had it up on the ramp at Pedro's place (local indy) today and it checked out well, they reckoned it's been looked after. And advised the following:-
- corroded exhaust hangers (common S211 problem - exhaust is stainless, hangers are not but can be welded back into shape).
- tired brake fluid
- slight leak top of engine, non urgent
- wrong kind of coolant to be sorted next service.
- some play but not excessive in ball joints at front
- already had an SBC pump replacement which is very good news.
It's going in tomorrow to have the brake fluid change and some welding to the exhaust hangers and the rest will wait until next time/when required.
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875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
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890 AUTOMATIC REAR-END DOOR
910 DYNAMO WITH HIGHER CAPACITY (FFO)
915 FUEL TANK WITH LARGER CAPACITY
926 EXHAUST GAS CLEANING WITH EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY
942 LOAD COMPARTMENT PACKAGE
954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES
983 COC PAPER EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY W/O REG. CERT. PART II
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
M112 V6-GASOLINE ENGINE M112
M32 CAPACITY 3,2 LITER
U16 STOWAGE TANK BEHIND REAR SEAT BACKREST
I had a good weekend with my new 320 petrol 211. As promised, here are first impressions...
Picked it up on Friday morning and an hours drive home was pleasurable, the airmatic all round giving it a great floaty ride. Only problem I noted was that the comand kept nagging about not being able to read the nav dvd. I whipped the dvd out at home and gave it a clean and it's been fine since. The nav disk is a dodgy copy of a 2011update, I do have the original. I'm toying with trying to get hold of an image of a later map/firmware to burn to a dvd but not sure how safe that is.
Later on Friday, filled with wife and kids I drove it 250 miles North and it performed well. Indicated 30mpg over the trip and mostly doing a steady 79mph which I think must be about on par. It's more comfortable that the 124, I think because the ride is more compliant and a lighter interior makes it feel more airy and luxurious. Having 3x3 point belts across the back means we can put our youngest who's still in a rear facing seat on the edge of the bench rather than the middle which makes the car feel a lot less claustrophobic. It doesn't feel as well screwed together but not a world apart.
The return journey down South last night went well, the ambient lighting and dash etc. may be a novelty that'll wear off but made it feel special to me. The Harman-Kardon sound system is storming, particularly with dvd a soundtrack - time will tell if I miss the space in the boot the sub takes up. Right now it's been coded to allow dvd playback through the front screen on the move which the kids are very excited about, but I might get that de-activated due to insurance concerns. They are better off with tablets anyway I think.
I think the car is good, I had it up on the ramp at Pedro's place (local indy) today and it checked out well, they reckoned it's been looked after. And advised the following:-
- corroded exhaust hangers (common S211 problem - exhaust is stainless, hangers are not but can be welded back into shape).
- tired brake fluid
- slight leak top of engine, non urgent
- wrong kind of coolant to be sorted next service.
- some play but not excessive in ball joints at front
- already had an SBC pump replacement which is very good news.
It's going in tomorrow to have the brake fluid change and some welding to the exhaust hangers and the rest will wait until next time/when required.
datacard details for beards
054 YEAR OF MODIFICATION 03/2
205 BOWNERS MANUAL AND SERVICE RECORD - ENGLISH
213 SPEED-SENSITIVE POWER STEERING/VARIO STEERING
21N STEUERCODE WERK SINDELFINGEN/GRAZ
221B SIGN COOLANT/REFUELING - ENGLISH
23N STEUERCODE WERK SINDELFINGEN/GRAZ
241 FRONT SEAT LH ELECTRIC ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY
249 INSIDE AND OUTSIDE MIRROR AUTOMATIC DIMMING
250B MOBILO LIFE/EUROPE SERVICE PACKAGE
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
283 BAIRBAGLABLE - ENGLISH
287 THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE
289 WOOD/LEATHER STEERING-WHEEL
354 ANTENNA FOR TELEPHONE D/E-NET
380 COMPLETE CELL PHONE PREINSTALLATION
404 MULTI-CONTOUR SEAT, FRONT LEFT
405 MULTI-CONTOUR SEAT, FRONT RIGHT
423 5-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
489 AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE
500 OUTSIDE REAR VIEW MIRROR LH AND RH FOLDING
527 COMAND DVD APS WITH NAVIGATION
537L GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND
543 SUN VISOR WITH MAKE-UP MIRROR L. AND R., BE-
551 ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL5XXLEUROPE
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
616 BI-XENON HEADLICHT W.ACTVIE CURVELIGHT LEFT-DRIVE
690 EMERGENCY SPARE TIRE (MINI SPARE)
744U BRILLIANT SILVER METALLIC
804 YEAR OF MODIFICATION
810 SOUND SYSTEM
819 CD CHANGER
830 AAMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE
838 AAMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - GRAY
844 FOLDING BENCH SEAT IN CARGO AREA INCL. 2 AUTO -
875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
882 INTERIOR SAFEGUARD
890 AUTOMATIC REAR-END DOOR
910 DYNAMO WITH HIGHER CAPACITY (FFO)
915 FUEL TANK WITH LARGER CAPACITY
926 EXHAUST GAS CLEANING WITH EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY
942 LOAD COMPARTMENT PACKAGE
954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES
983 COC PAPER EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY W/O REG. CERT. PART II
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
M112 V6-GASOLINE ENGINE M112
M32 CAPACITY 3,2 LITER
U16 STOWAGE TANK BEHIND REAR SEAT BACKREST
Krikkit said:
derin100 said:
Completely off-topic but...
This exactly like the E9 3.0CS that I bought in 1988 and kept for 13 years. The same Baikal Blue colour, the same interior, same wheels...the only difference was mine was manual. I bought as a one owner car with circa 70K miles on the clock IIRC for £1500 (because I couldn't afford an E24).
Granted that was a while ago and this one does only have 11K miles on the clock but....look at the price! If only, eh?
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C668599
That's a pretty special example for inflation comparison - <11k miles in 42 years and kept in a dry and salt-free climate.This exactly like the E9 3.0CS that I bought in 1988 and kept for 13 years. The same Baikal Blue colour, the same interior, same wheels...the only difference was mine was manual. I bought as a one owner car with circa 70K miles on the clock IIRC for £1500 (because I couldn't afford an E24).
Granted that was a while ago and this one does only have 11K miles on the clock but....look at the price! If only, eh?
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C668599
Even so, your example sounds lovely, love the CS.
In the end, even though I did make contact with the vendor, I bottled out. I know how much it can cost to restore an E9. So, despite all the sentimental arguments for buying it back (e.g. it was the car my wife and I drove away in from our wedding nearly 25 years ago and the car we brought our first child home from the hospital in,) I had to accept that my pockets just aren't deep enough.
idiotgap said:
Only problem I noted was that the comand kept nagging about not being able to read the nav dvd. I whipped the dvd out at home and gave it a clean and it's been fine since. The nav disk is a dodgy copy of a 2011update, I do have the original. I'm toying with trying to get hold of an image of a later map/firmware to burn to a dvd but not sure how safe that is.
Get an original disc pronto. Ebay is your friend. Copied discs kill Nav drives eventually. Don't know the exact science about why or how it does it but it does. The system also functions faster with an OEM disc loaded. I tried to burn one very slowly to see if that affected the quality of burn and the ability of the drive to read it but for whatever reason the original disc was always faster.
Sounds like you've got a good car there. Good spec, great price.
They all weep oil from the top, no biggie.
Enjoy.
We just completed 2000 miles down to the Auvergne and back (via our favourite vineyard on the fiver Cher) in the r129 we bought for 4k a month or so back.
It managed about 25mpg overall and impressed is hugely with its sheer ability and comfort, despatching the return journey of 14hours without any hiccups or discomfort.
The only things to have come to light are:
A whine from the rear - suspect a wheel bearing
A vibration from the rear at about 65 through to 90mph - possibly related to the wheel bearing otherwise I'll be looking at the propshaft. Definitely not wheel balancing as that was done before departure as we had already found the vibration and it made no difference.
Heater vents are stuck on windscreen/outer face vents so need to check the vacuum system (repaired the cracked vacuum distribution block in the 'module coffin' but that hasn't fixed it).
Aside from that its been great and we're dead chuffed with our wee barge....
In fact..
We might be in the market for another one. The trip to the Auvergne was to look at a second house to buy and if we go ahead we'll be looking for an old Mercedes Estate barge to leave over there....
It managed about 25mpg overall and impressed is hugely with its sheer ability and comfort, despatching the return journey of 14hours without any hiccups or discomfort.
The only things to have come to light are:
A whine from the rear - suspect a wheel bearing
A vibration from the rear at about 65 through to 90mph - possibly related to the wheel bearing otherwise I'll be looking at the propshaft. Definitely not wheel balancing as that was done before departure as we had already found the vibration and it made no difference.
Heater vents are stuck on windscreen/outer face vents so need to check the vacuum system (repaired the cracked vacuum distribution block in the 'module coffin' but that hasn't fixed it).
Aside from that its been great and we're dead chuffed with our wee barge....
In fact..
We might be in the market for another one. The trip to the Auvergne was to look at a second house to buy and if we go ahead we'll be looking for an old Mercedes Estate barge to leave over there....
Edited by lostkiwi on Monday 12th October 20:22
lostkiwi said:
We might be in the market for another one. The trip to the Auvergne was to look at a second house to buy and if we go ahead we'll be looking for an old Mercedes Estate barge to leave over there....
That's pretty much how the story went for us. After we'd got our SL and enjoyed it I realised that old mercs are pretty satisfying and don't tend to go wrong too badly, so when our first son was born I got the 124 estate. If you are looking for one of those, I might know where one is...Question to the throng...
The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
Bugger it..... Turns out changing the rocker cover gaskets on an E65 745i isn't an easy job.
About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
idiotgap said:
Question to the throng...
The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
tax scam? how did you pay?The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
thelawnet1 said:
idiotgap said:
Question to the throng...
The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
tax scam? how did you pay?The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
crostonian said:
thelawnet1 said:
idiotgap said:
Question to the throng...
The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
tax scam? how did you pay?The car I bought was advertised on autotrader for £3950, I bought it a smidge less than that as is traditional. For some reason the vendor has kept the advert live, changed his phone number and the text reads 'sold' but he's dropped the price to £2200.
Why would he do that?
E65Ross said:
Bugger it..... Turns out changing the rocker cover gaskets on an E65 745i isn't an easy job.
About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
Why are those gaskets so expensive?About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
idiotgap said:
lostkiwi said:
We might be in the market for another one. The trip to the Auvergne was to look at a second house to buy and if we go ahead we'll be looking for an old Mercedes Estate barge to leave over there....
I got the 124 estate. If you are looking for one of those, I might know where one is...At this rate, idiotgap and I may be flooding the market and suppressing the price!
"Rare BMW Alpina B10 4.6 V8 Switchtronic - Full MOT For Sale (1997)
12 Months MOT with No Advisories. 138k Miles. Individual Alpina Blue with Extended Nappa Leather"
£5.750 http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C655945
12 Months MOT with No Advisories. 138k Miles. Individual Alpina Blue with Extended Nappa Leather"
£5.750 http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C655945
gowmonster said:
Some High Mileage cruisers.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
I miss my S6. It did throw up some big bills though......every time I put fuel in it! http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
Patrick Bateman said:
E65Ross said:
Bugger it..... Turns out changing the rocker cover gaskets on an E65 745i isn't an easy job.
About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
Why are those gaskets so expensive?About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
derin100 said:
hman said:
E65Ross said:
PlayersNo6 said:
0a said:
Lovely - it's running the original metric wheels though isn't it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-BMW-635csi-HIGHLINE...
Yes, the wheels are the original TRX 415 'Black-line' type. Look nice but the tyres are now horrendously expensive and even new ones will be NOS as Michelin stopped making them years ago and the moulds no longer exist.
Re: Tin-worm....Well, some might get the odd spot or two....
E65Ross said:
Patrick Bateman said:
E65Ross said:
Bugger it..... Turns out changing the rocker cover gaskets on an E65 745i isn't an easy job.
About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
Why are those gaskets so expensive?About £100 each for the gaskets (!!!) and around 5 hours labour
Still..... That's the only outgoing this year for it in reality. Can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. All being well it could be this weekend. Car is at my specialist and will be finished tomorrow but due to work etc I wouldn't be able to collect Friday even if I can drive.
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