Are the left wing less tolerant of the views of others?

Are the left wing less tolerant of the views of others?

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turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Don said:
Well I'd say we have our proof based on the events of today: Yes.

Luckily the offenders will be found, hunted down, and made to pay. The police have led a couple away in cuffs it would appear (from the Telegraph coverage - not sure if I trust their factual accuracy).

I've never felt the need to march on a Labour conference. I can criticise them adequately every few years at the ballot box.
yes

Dave Prentis the boss of Unison said:
We are here today to hold this vicious vindictive government to account.
By staging a display of vicious and vindictive thuggery tolerance as usual.

In any case it's the job of HM Opposition to do that. Prentis needs to wind his red neck in or Corbyn will call for MBH's attack nuns.

turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Unite general secretary Len McCluskey said:
If they think a fluke victory in which 75% of the electorate did not vote for them gave them a mandate to continue their cuts then they've got another thing coming.

If they think they are going to have a smooth ride over the next five years, they've got another thing coming.

There will be hundreds of thousands of people hounding them, snapping at them and resisting them.
rofl

Sore losers' convention gathers outside democratically elected winners' convention to display pigst manners.

Len kept it zipped when Labour got well below 50% of the popular vote in 2005. Somebody ought to remind dinosaur Len about the upcoming boundary changes and watch him tolerate that.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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BlackLabel said:
The lefties are out 'protesting' in Manchester today - showing their class by spitting on journalists, egging Tory party delegates and abusing the police.
You forget- they can do all that with a clear consciense as the other side are the 'bad' people.

turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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A CMD opponent wanting to give him a mouthful, or a fan hoping for the opposite.

PorkInsider

5,886 posts

141 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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turbobloke said:
Unite general secretary Len McCluskey said:
If they think a fluke victory in which 75% of the electorate did not vote for them gave them a mandate to continue their cuts then they've got another thing coming.

If they think they are going to have a smooth ride over the next five years, they've got another thing coming.

There will be hundreds of thousands of people hounding them, snapping at them and resisting them.
rofl

Sore losers' convention gathers outside democratically elected winners' convention to display pigst manners.

Len kept it zipped when Labour got well below 50% of the popular vote in 2005. Somebody ought to remind dinosaur Len about the upcoming boundary changes and watch him tolerate that.
He's brilliant isn't he...

75% of the electorate didn't vote Conservative but it seems to have passed him by that 80% didn't vote Labour.

Crush

15,077 posts

169 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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BlackLabel said:
The lefties are out 'protesting' in Manchester today - showing their class by spitting on journalists, egging Tory party delegates and abusing the police.

https://www.politicshome.com/economy-and-work/arti...

https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann



Edited by BlackLabel on Sunday 4th October 15:17
They make the EDL marches look civilised.

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Just read that the arch protestor in chief, JC, is to lead a protest meeting in Manchester.

If ever conclusive proof were needed of the intolerant attitude of the left were needed.

Pathetic, but irrefutable proof of his complete incapacity to lead this country.

otolith

56,038 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Gobbing on journalists. Stay classy, trots.

dudleybloke

19,805 posts

186 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Bunch of commie swine.

turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Manchester Council Chief Shinypants said:
There is a huge demonstration on, which I will be at, and feelings are running very high about the cruel and disgraceful cuts the Tories are imposing on places like Manchester.
With that comment in print, at least members of the tolerant Left's intelligentsia (vandalism wing) will know how to spell 'cruel' next time they're passing a memorial, carrying a can of red spray paint purely by chance.

We can probably discount the appearance of 'disgraceful'. As words go it's too long for the Li(vw) to cope with.

durbster

10,248 posts

222 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Crush said:
They make the EDL marches look civilised.
Greater Manchester Police didn't seem to think it went too badly:

Greater Manchester Police said:
Chief Supt John O'Hare said: "Today around 60,000 people took part in a demonstration and I would like to thank them for their cooperation."
Greater Manchester Police said:
Ch Supt O'Hare said: "The overwhelming majority of people have exercised their democratic right to protest with dignity and good grace."
Greater Manchester Police said:
Ch Supt O'Hare said: "The fact that only four arrests have been made throughout the day so far was particularly pleasing."
https://twitter.com/gmpolice

AJS-

15,366 posts

236 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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I reckon the Tories should egg them back. Have a big egg fight. You can't take them seriously as a party of government if they just let themselves be egged without any retaliation.

durbster

10,248 posts

222 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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AJS- said:
I reckon the Tories should egg them back. Have a big egg fight. You can't take them seriously as a party of government if they just let themselves be egged without any retaliation.
Corbyn has already said there are no circumstances in which he'll deploy eggs.

glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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ellroy said:
Just read that the arch protestor in chief, JC, is to lead a protest meeting in Manchester.

If ever conclusive proof were needed of the intolerant attitude of the left were needed.

Pathetic, but irrefutable proof of his complete incapacity to lead this country.
Because he's leading a protest meeting? I'm not sure I see that as conclusive proof of an intolerant attitude.

His FB wall had this post on the 3rd:

CorbynFB said:
Jeremy Corbyn
3 October at 13:00 ·
Ahead of the Conservative Party Conference, I urge all activists (Labour or not) to focus solely on policy and not to take part in any personal attacks. Misogyny and cyberbully have no place in our society. As I said in my speech at the Labour Party Conference:
"There’s another important thing about how we are going to do this. It’s a vital part of our new politics. I want to repeat what I said at the start of the leadership election. I do not believe in personal abuse of any sort.
Treat people with respect. Treat people as you wish to be treated yourself. Listen to their views, agree or disagree but have that debate. There is going to be no rudeness from me. Maya Angelou said: "You may not control all the events that happen to you, but you can decide not to be reduced by them."
I want a kinder politics, a more caring society. Don’t let them reduce you to believing in anything less.
So I say to all activists, whether Labour or not, cut out the personal attacks; the cyberbullying; and especially the misogynistic abuse online. And let’s get on with bringing values back into politics."
Contrasts well with the SNP, I'd say.

turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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glazbagun said:
Contrasts well with the SNP, I'd say.
Yes agreed, if sincere - after all Brown disavowed McPoison until it was no longer tenahle to do so - and it also contrasts with what the rank and file marching trot is like and how they behave as a matter of routine.

XM5ER

5,091 posts

248 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/03/feminis...

It seems that they are equally intolerant of each other.

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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@glazbagun, so every other labour, or any other party of note, leader has managed to abide by the gentlemen's agreement that during party conference week you let that demcratic party, and its members, discuss policy without rancour and sniping from the sidelines, and JC has not manage it once, does not reflect on him and his sixth form politicking of the worst kind?

I reckon it shows fairly accurately that there is an underlying intolerance, remember full well that the conservatives won the election, and most importantly that he should not be allowed anywhere near real power in this country until he grows up. Sadly, it may well be too late for him or the left in general whose political posturing has more similarity to a toddler wanting someone's else's toy than anything else a lot of the time.

It's not fair, it's not fair! Repeat until you make yourself sick.

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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glazbagun said:
CorbynFB said:
Jeremy Corbyn
3 October at 13:00 ·
Ahead of the Conservative Party Conference, I urge all activists (Labour or not) to focus solely on policy and not to take part in any personal attacks. Misogyny and cyberbully have no place in our society. As I said in my speech at the Labour Party Conference:
"There’s another important thing about how we are going to do this. It’s a vital part of our new politics. I want to repeat what I said at the start of the leadership election. I do not believe in personal abuse of any sort.
Treat people with respect. Treat people as you wish to be treated yourself. Listen to their views, agree or disagree but have that debate. There is going to be no rudeness from me. Maya Angelou said: "You may not control all the events that happen to you, but you can decide not to be reduced by them."
I want a kinder politics, a more caring society. Don’t let them reduce you to believing in anything less.
So I say to all activists, whether Labour or not, cut out the personal attacks; the cyberbullying; and especially the misogynistic abuse online. And let’s get on with bringing values back into politics."
Contrasts well with the SNP, I'd say.
Contrasts to his own approach with reporters - he does not want a debate with any of them and strops if they do!

rxtx

6,016 posts

210 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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XM5ER said:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/03/feminis...

It seems that they are equally intolerant of each other.
How strange.

article said:
“I am worried I will be triggered by the content of the workshops?”
Double bonus - up-talking and what I think is the trivialisation of PTSD triggers to mean ... what, becoming upset because someone doesn't agree with you?

turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
Jeremy Corbyn
3 October at 13:00 ·
Ahead of the Conservative Party Conference, I urge all activists (Labour or not) to focus solely on policy and not to take part in any personal attacks. Misogyny and cyberbully have no place in our society. As I said in my speech at the Labour Party Conference:
"There’s another important thing about how we are going to do this. It’s a vital part of our new politics. I want to repeat what I said at the start of the leadership election. I do not believe in personal abuse of any sort.
Treat people with respect. Treat people as you wish to be treated yourself. Listen to their views, agree or disagree but have that debate. There is going to be no rudeness from me. Maya Angelou said: "You may not control all the events that happen to you, but you can decide not to be reduced by them."
I want a kinder politics, a more caring society. Don’t let them reduce you to believing in anything less.
So I say to all activists, whether Labour or not, cut out the personal attacks; the cyberbullying; and especially the misogynistic abuse online. And let’s get on with bringing values back into politics."
I am not a Labourite, but I quite like what he has said.
Sure, I'm not a Labourite either, and I could have liked Gordon Brown's words about McPoison's poison being an unknown. But...

Article said:
In his book, "Power Trip," Mr McBride suggested Mr Brown did not know what he was doing because his unspoken word to his boss was "don't question my methods." But in his interview, the former spin doctor said: "That is not what I am saying."

He said Mr Brown would approve his leaks before Budgets, suspected he was the source of stories aimed at destabilising other ministers but did not know he smeared them. Today, Mr Brown's office declined to comment.