AUDI SQ5 Dash cam footage Dangerous overtake Somerset

AUDI SQ5 Dash cam footage Dangerous overtake Somerset

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TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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La Liga said:
Your driving was poor
See that, cop told you off.

Another dashcam warrior that can't see their own problems.





Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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TVR1 said:
thelawnet1 said:
TVR1 said:
looks like only the OP was in lane 1. He then moved right at the earliest opportunity to block lane 2.
he doesn't move right.
What did he do then? Moving away from the single straight ahead lane at the lights, he positioned to block anyone behind him by moving over to the right after the lights when it became 2 lanes again. He shouldve stayed left. If that isnt moving over to the right, i dont know what is.
The OP did nothing of the sort. He was in lane 2 and at no point did he move over to the right or block anyone. He continued straight ahead without any deviation.
He subsequently moved left into lane 1 after passing through the junction and before the merge point.

anonymous said:
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Yes, he was. Those who make unsubstantiated claims such as that above really need to get a grip.
When the longer clip started I had no idea where the location was. From that point it took less than 90 seconds to find it.
Here is the proof - https://goo.gl/maps/wRvDz4qxLWA2
Satellite view - https://goo.gl/maps/yZz6JJvugK72

Never let inconvenient facts get in the way of ones's prejudices eh?



jbsportstech

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5,069 posts

179 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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poo at Paul's said:
No!
Psst, it shows the OP sitting in the outside lane blocking the safe and legal overtake, and causing the eventual outcome! But you never heard it from me, right?


Having said all that, Audi should have stuck behind the Fester.
Came along that section traffic was not flowing well due no one using lane 2. As i come onto two lane section I am the only person in lane 2 and get to the front of the que next to lead car in lane 1. Don't the see the problem, at this point except many people can't use two lane merge as designers intended. No one behind me when the lights change. After I return to lane 1 audi appears speed and does what he does. I never hold others progress.


jbsportstech

Original Poster:

5,069 posts

179 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Red Devil said:
Yes, he was. Those who make unsubstantiated claims such as that above really need to get a grip.
When the longer clip started I had no idea where the location was. From that point it took less than 90 seconds to find it.
Here is the proof - https://goo.gl/maps/wRvDz4qxLWA2
Satellite view - https://goo.gl/maps/yZz6JJvugK72

Never let inconvenient facts get in the way of ones's prejudices eh?
Thank you

LookAtMyCat

464 posts

108 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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You booted it to block what would have been a silly, but reasonably safe overtake. The Audi driver may well have thought the gap had been closed by you and had to take emergency evasive action to avoid a collision.

Audi driver is a bit of a knob; but you're dangerous.

Hackney

6,827 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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TVR1 said:
jbsportstech said:
What was very poor.

at no point did a straddle the middle of the road with oncomings forcing them to take evasive action, I didn't keep my foot down when the audi came along side i braked to try and stop him having a head on. i am only guilty of trying to making progress.
So this screen shot, just as you went through the lights, shows you tried to stay left then? You then stayed right until you had no other choice to move left. Id be glad the Fiesta was there TBH. If it wasn't i'm also sure you wouldnt have slowed down and would've stayed right into the merge and we'd be watching the multiple car head on, on the news.

What on earth are you talking about?

JonV8V

7,208 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Hackney said:
TVR1 said:
jbsportstech said:
What was very poor.

at no point did a straddle the middle of the road with oncomings forcing them to take evasive action, I didn't keep my foot down when the audi came along side i braked to try and stop him having a head on. i am only guilty of trying to making progress.
So this screen shot, just as you went through the lights, shows you tried to stay left then? You then stayed right until you had no other choice to move left. Id be glad the Fiesta was there TBH. If it wasn't i'm also sure you wouldnt have slowed down and would've stayed right into the merge and we'd be watching the multiple car head on, on the news.

What on earth are you talking about?
I agree - whats he on about? The OP pulls away from lights in L2 and stays clear of whatever is in L1 before changing lanes. I don't see much aggression in the OP. The OP should have been aware of the Audi and could have done things to control the situation - either stay out longer to remove the temptation, accelerated more to create a bigger gap behind as the Audi may have been tight for space from whatever was already in L1 or taken the pragmatic view of thinking its better to have knobs like the audi driver in front than behind and tucked in and slowed down, if the Audi had crashed the OP would have joined them. Thats the worst I can level at the OP and I'd hardly call that dangerous driving.

It feels like there are a lot of Audi drivers on here which is odd given how quiet the Audi section is.

Its also no wonder we can never agree on anything without a video (like the recent one on two overtakes against solid white lines which some have defended to the hilt) when we can't agree on this.


JonV8V

7,208 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Came along that section traffic was not flowing well due no one using lane 2. As i come onto two lane section I am the only person in lane 2 and get to the front of the que next to lead car in lane 1. Don't the see the problem, at this point except many people can't use two lane merge as designers intended. No one behind me when the lights change. After I return to lane 1 audi appears speed and does what he does. I never hold others progress.
So where exactly did the Audi come from?

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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The thread where people need to get a life....

Hackney

6,827 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Cooperman said:
So we are all going to turn 'coppers narks' now that dash cams are available. We all make mistakes (don't we) so, eventually, we all stand the risk of being 'reported' by other drivers.
We do bring a lot of s**t on ourselves in this world.
But it'll make the lawyers richer.
Coppers narks? This isn't The Krays you know.

I have a dashcam, I haven't posted any footage from it anywhere.
No doubt it has captured bad driving by me, no doubt.

But it's also captured scores of incidents which identified idiotic driving by others whether that be intentional / aggressive driving, a general lack of attention / lack of skill or just a simple lapse of concentration.
Thankfully none of those have resulted in a collision, but they are the reason I got the dashcam in the first place. There are so many of these incidents which *could* result in an accident involving only two cars; in all likelihood no independent witnesses and therefore would result in insurance company going 50:50 or worse from my point of view.

Case in point, yesterday at a 3 lane traffic light which goes to 2 lanes after shortly after the junction. I was in lane 3, and ahead of the car to my left. He clearly didn't like being "beaten" away from the lights* and floored it to pass me on the left. Fair enough, couldn't care less and I was going to filter in behind him. Except... he then spotted the average speed camera and stamped on the brakes going from well over, to well under the 30 limit, right at the end of the filter.

Now, if I'd clipped him how would that have looked? I'm sure his version would have him driving sensibly until the hooligan in the lowered Saab tried to overtake, ran out of road and hit him from behind.

Thankfully my dashcam would prove otherwise. And that's the only reason I have it. I'm sure many others are the same (about 1 in 4 drivers now I heard) So, call me a grass or a nark or whatever other playground insult you want but just know, if you and I collide I'll be able to prove what happened.

  • I didn't race away, I got to the lights as they were changing so never had to come to a complete stop

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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fk me there are some total fking lunatics on this forum - basically every poster suggesting the OP was in any way whatsoever to blame for the dangerous driving of the utter khunt in the white Audi.

OP pulls away from lights, pulls over into the left lane before the merge arrow appears, with plenty of space for a psycopath to pull into.

Hopefully all you guys live down south and so aren't a danger to me or my family.

What a distasteful thread. A real eye opener.

Durzel

12,256 posts

168 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Audi driver was a knob, was committed to the overtake regardless of his or anyone else's safety. How many times on here so we read about someone who reacts to someone they're overtaking speeding up by going all in instead of just backing off?

That being said I would think that the Fiesta overtake was as a result of Audi man having too much closing speed from accelerating himself. Not that it excuses it, but I suspect he just wanted to get past you.

I know it can be easier said than done but being behind a knob on the road is much preferable to being in front of one. Him "beating you" doesn't mean anything, no one cares and accepting that people will be knobs and driving accordingly (defensively) is much preferable to print yours and others safety at risk.

ps. The OP has already previously admitted speeding up as a consequence of the Audi's actions.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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poo at Paul's said:
vonhosen said:
Cane we see the 30secs before as well?
No!
Psst, it shows the OP sitting in the outside lane blocking the safe and legal overtake, and causing the eventual outcome! But you never heard it from me, right?


Having said all that, Audi should have stuck behind the Fester.
Already been posted on page 2 you joker. Try reading.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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BrownBottle said:
jbsportstech said:
I pulled away from lights in lane 2 briskly.

when I saw I was closing on the slow moving fiesta I started slowing down. If I didn't want the audi to overtake i could of stayed over and controlled the road space. I can see the are some judge, jurors and executioners on this site who have decided and dapped the throttle to close the gap but I was acceralting from the lights all the time.

I got it though no more overtakes for me will just poodle and if I see an audi 's' car closing on me i will slam the brakes as if its an ambulance and need to make room for the to pass safely otherwise they may pass like this. He/she carried on driving like and did an overtake approaching a roundabout when he was 9 cars ahead.
Nope the video doesn't show that at all.

As soon as you've completed your lane change (around 3 sec) you realise the Audi driver is going to overtake and you accelerate hard, probably WOT in whichever gear you were in. If you had just maintained your original speed the Audi driver would have had plenty of room to move into in front of you with enough time to do a crossword or maybe even a spot of embroidery in the process.
You should write for the Daily Mail. ZERO evidence available on that video for you to make any estimate of rate of change of acceleration.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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La Liga said:
jbsportstech said:
I will hand the footage to local plod and awaits my fate then rather than being judged on here.
Who will be looking at things from a criminal standard, not a 'is this good driving' standard?

The Audi driver's driving was at least 'due care and attention', so criminal.

Your driving was poor because you didn't take the rate of the closing distance to the Fiesta into account. You shouldn't need to brake there. Perhaps your thoughts were more with the Audi.

Your acceleration wasn't linear. The rate clearly changes prior the awful overtake the Audi driver does. Whether this was because of the Audi or not only you know, but it suggests it to be the case.

anonymous said:
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A S.172 request to the RK just like a speeding ticket if you've ever had one.
Quite concerning that a police officer makes statements like this as if they are statements of fact - when the video doesn't "clearly" show anything of the sort.


Digger

14,641 posts

191 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Can you re-upload with the audio please.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Yeovil.

/thread

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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johnfm said:
fk me there are some total fking lunatics on this forum - basically every poster suggesting the OP was in any way whatsoever to blame for the dangerous driving of the utter khunt in the white Audi.

OP pulls away from lights, pulls over into the left lane before the merge arrow appears, with plenty of space for a psycopath to pull into.

Hopefully all you guys live down south and so aren't a danger to me or my family.

What a distasteful thread. A real eye opener.
Faults on both sides, neither driver was good...

ORD

18,107 posts

127 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Watching the longer version, it's really not clear. I retract my criticism of the OP and apologise. Not clear that he tried to block the overtake. (If you did, OP, and only you know, you're a st driver)

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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johnfm said:
fk me there are some total fking lunatics on this forum - basically every poster suggesting the OP was in any way whatsoever to blame for the dangerous driving of the utter khunt in the white Audi.

OP pulls away from lights, pulls over into the left lane before the merge arrow appears, with plenty of space for a psycopath to pull into.

Hopefully all you guys live down south and so aren't a danger to me or my family.

What a distasteful thread. A real eye opener.
The Audi driver was to blame for his dangerous driving.

The OP is also to blame for his bad driving.