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The linked Gov.uk MOT document says;
"Driving a vehicle that’s failed
You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out, except to:
have the failed defects fixed ora pre-arranged MOT test appointment"
Has the law now changed so that a failed MOT invalidates a current MOT?
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
"Driving a vehicle that’s failed
You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out, except to:
have the failed defects fixed ora pre-arranged MOT test appointment"
Has the law now changed so that a failed MOT invalidates a current MOT?
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
Gov.uk is not a necessarily a statement of law (and in places it is holier than the pope 
in terms of the advice/information/services proffered on there, but that's a different topic).
If the linked article is the one I think it is, it also contradicts itself on page 2 (unless it has been edited in the last couple of weeks)...
in terms of the advice/information/services proffered on there, but that's a different topic).If the linked article is the one I think it is, it also contradicts itself on page 2 (unless it has been edited in the last couple of weeks)...
Discussed last week with a tester after the thread on the subject last weekend...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
There was no notification of this to testers, my pointing out the webpage was the first he'd heard. Make of that what you will, I've no idea of goings on here.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
There was no notification of this to testers, my pointing out the webpage was the first he'd heard. Make of that what you will, I've no idea of goings on here.
It's just having the guidelines ammended to reflect what has always been the case.
As an example.
Before the guidelines were changed. If you went for an MOT 2 months before it was due and it failed on a cracked spring, worn ball joint and some welding needing done then although it won't invalidate the existing MOT you still shouldn't be driving it around until the defects are resolved.
It's all the same as it's always been.
As an example.
Before the guidelines were changed. If you went for an MOT 2 months before it was due and it failed on a cracked spring, worn ball joint and some welding needing done then although it won't invalidate the existing MOT you still shouldn't be driving it around until the defects are resolved.
It's all the same as it's always been.
aw51 121565 said:
Gov.uk is not a necessarily a statement of law (and in places it is holier than the pope in terms of the advice/information/services proffered on there, but that's a different topic).
If the linked article is the one I think it is, it also contradicts itself on page 2 (unless it has been edited in the last couple of weeks)...
Yes on page 2 it seams to contradicts itself by saying: in terms of the advice/information/services proffered on there, but that's a different topic).If the linked article is the one I think it is, it also contradicts itself on page 2 (unless it has been edited in the last couple of weeks)...
Taking your vehicle away for repairs
You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.
You can only take your vehicle to or from somewhere to be repaired if your MOT has run out.
When my sons car failed the MOT because the horn was not working the garage said that if I get it repared and bring it back within 10 days they would pass it at no extra charge.The old MOT has about two weeks to run so it looks like you can still use the car if it fails but your old one has still some time to run.
Retroman said:
It's just having the guidelines ammended to reflect what has always been the case.
As an example.
Before the guidelines were changed. If you went for an MOT 2 months before it was due and it failed on a cracked spring, worn ball joint and some welding needing done then although it won't invalidate the existing MOT you still shouldn't be driving it around until the defects are resolved.
It's all the same as it's always been.
"Shouldn't" and "are forbidden to by law" are two different things.As an example.
Before the guidelines were changed. If you went for an MOT 2 months before it was due and it failed on a cracked spring, worn ball joint and some welding needing done then although it won't invalidate the existing MOT you still shouldn't be driving it around until the defects are resolved.
It's all the same as it's always been.
Surely that's just common sense?
Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
GroundEffect said:
Surely that's just common sense?
Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
They are two separate requirements.Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
1) to Have a valid MOT
2) your car should be roadworthy
You can have a valid MOT and the next day something breaks and your car is not roadworthy.
Your can be perfectly roadworthy but if you don't have an MOT you will have 2 weeks in the cooler.
GroundEffect said:
Surely that's just common sense?
Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
It is 'officially' roadworthy if you don't get the MOT done early. You can't legislate for common sense...Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
GroundEffect said:
Surely that's just common sense?
Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
Would you advocate daily testing then?Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
It really isn't difficult. If your vehicle passes an MOT, then for the next 12 months you cannot commit the offence of using it without a valid test certificate. However at anytime during that 12 month period you may commit a C&U/dangerous driving etc. offence if the vehicle develops a defect.
Cat
Cat
GroundEffect said:
Surely that's just common sense?
Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
It works with Calibration Certificates for Speed Cameras - they get calibrated, and the certificate is valid for the whole year, even if it goes wrong in the meantime.Your car receives MOT and is given one year's grace for roadworthiness.
You get your car MOT tested before the year ends and your car is now not roadworthy.
Why on earth should the previous test still hold any weight?! Your car is no longer road worthy!
My local camera had the road dug up overnight last week - but won't be re-calibrated and certified until next April.
Cat said:
It really isn't difficult. If your vehicle passes an MOT, then for the next 12 months you cannot commit the offence of using it without a valid test certificate. However at anytime during that 12 month period you may commit a C&U/dangerous driving etc. offence if the vehicle develops a defect.
Well put.We might like to think it's not difficult, but many people seem to find it impossible.
Retroman said:
"Shouldn't" are my own choice of words.
I can't think of many (any) things a car would fail an MOT on which wouldn't make it illegal to drive around with on the road either.
A crack of 45mm length in the top LH corner of the screen. A worn suspension bush on an ARB that causes slight knocking. Worn shock absorbers (not dangerously so). A passenger door that can't be opened from the inside. Failed emissions value. Poor handbrake on one side. Etc,I can't think of many (any) things a car would fail an MOT on which wouldn't make it illegal to drive around with on the road either.
battered said:
A crack of 45mm length in the top LH corner of the screen. A worn suspension bush on an ARB that causes slight knocking. Worn shock absorbers (not dangerously so). A passenger door that can't be opened from the inside. Failed emissions value. Poor handbrake on one side. Etc,
I'm quite sure DVSA (VOSA at he time) fined quite a few people for failing roadside emissions tests.I'm not sure about the rest though.
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