Sagaris buying advice required

[Rocco1]

Hi guys thinking of buying a Sagaris 05-07 reg what do i need to know and how reliable are the engines
Thank you

[ChazUwe]

You will need to have deep pockets as prices of sagaris' in particular are rocketing at the moment! In terms of the speed six engines general wisdom is the later the better. However they are still a specialist engine and require mechanical sympathy and need to be well maintained. So try and find an owner loved one with a regular and detailed service history with some of the known specialists. Then purchase and enjoy! 😃

[Rocco1]

Would a 4.3 rebuild put people off

[Zippee]

Rocco1 said:

Would a 4.3 rebuild put people off

The opposite. A rebuild from a respectable builder such as power is a make selling point and the 4.3 is a peach (though I am biased)

[ChazUwe]

Definately a plus, especially if you are worried about reliability. Not heard of any major problems with the 4.3 rebuilds! Hence why the specialists have the confidence to warrenty them. But the 4.3 rebuild is pricey £10k+ so any seller would probably be looking for a higher asking price! Especially where a long warrenty still exists ....

[Lotus E300S]

Rocco1 said:

Hi guys thinking of buying a Sagaris 05-07 reg what do i need to know and how reliable are the engines
Thank you

You can pick up a very good private one for less than 55k, IMHO engines going pop are a lottery but Sags have the better built ones with better parts, fantastic raw cars, if I was buying now I would go 4.3-4.5 engine, standard box 3.7 diff.

I've not driven a FFF.

[Rocco1]

Thanks guys
Now which one do i go for
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...

Or

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...

[ChazUwe]

Personally I love the orange one, but quite a difference in price. Only way would be to look at each and see which you prefer and weigh up the price difference then....

[Lotus E300S]

Orange one but 72k is top top money,

[Englishman]

Rocco1 said:

Would a 4.3 rebuild put people off

Dom does a great job of rebuilding and improving engines, including his 4.3 version of the S6. But to those outside of the TVR inner circle, the standard version will be the most collectible and most valuable version long term. All IMHO, as for other marques.

[mr sagman]

The grey one at TVR Mads is my old car and I can vouch that it was an absolute cracker, Whichever one you buy you won't be disappointed as they are fab.

[Rocco1]

To grasp some sort of idea do you guys know how many Sagaris's have suffered catastrophic engine failures that required engine rebuilds
Thank you

[Rocco1]

mr sagman said:

The grey one at TVR Mads is my old car and I can vouch that it was an absolute cracker, Whichever one you buy you won't be disappointed as they are fab.

PM sent

[m4tti]

Rocco1 said:

To grasp some sort of idea do you guys know how many Sagaris's have suffered catastrophic engine failures that required engine rebuilds
Thank you

Very few speeds sixes suffer catastrophic engine failure, the issue stemmed from the cams and followers not being delivered to spec. The case hardening fails thus depositing metal in the system, resulting in further problems. Theoretically by 2005 the cam follower issue was resolved, if you want to know more about the engine and the internals have a look at the rebuild thread in my profile.

Go in with the attitude that you'll drive it and if it breaks you'll fix it and you'll be fine.

Edited by m4tti on Sunday 11th October 19:43

[phoenixz]

Rocco1 said:

Thanks guys
Now which one do i go for
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...

Or

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...

As has been said, the engine upgrade is about £10k (hence the price difference between the two). I know for a fact that no expense was spared in this particular example and don't see it as being a long term investment problem.

With Ferrari, Lamborghini or any of the other big classic names, the more original the better. But with the smaller manufacturers and more niche marques it doesn't seem to present a problem. (you don't see many lotus or noble owners clamoring for original parts)


As far as the price goes, I know of a 4.5 that was sold recently for a price not far removed from £72k. And that 4.5 example had been shagged to within an inch of it's life on many, many track days.

That £72k one has been a bit of a pampered garage bunny.

[zeppo]

Go for the 50k GBP green one (it's for sale quite a long time), grap it for 48k GBP and drive it!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...

I think it's better to save the money for upgrades (or an engine rebuild) you want to have, then paying 72k for an other one...
For 20k GBP difference you will get a lot of thinks - and then they are completely new...

[mr sagman]

Rocco1 said:

PM sent

Hi Rocco, I have not received any email from you have just checked my spam and its not there.
Try this one

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[Lotus E300S]

phoenixz said:

As has been said, the engine upgrade is about £10k (hence the price difference between the two). I know for a fact that no expense was spared in this particular example and don't see it as being a long term investment problem.

With Ferrari, Lamborghini or any of the other big classic names, the more original the better. But with the smaller manufacturers and more niche marques it doesn't seem to present a problem. (you don't see many lotus or noble owners clamoring for original parts)


As far as the price goes, I know of a 4.5 that was sold recently for a price not far removed from £72k. And that 4.5 example had been shagged to within an inch of it's life on many, many track days.

That £72k one has been a bit of a pampered garage bunny.

That 4.5 went for 55k

[Rocco1]

Thank you all for your contribution :-)

[tvrtuscans]

Rocco1 said:

Thank you all for your contribution :-)

Keep us posted....