Anxiety the return
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Last year I had a bad bout of anxiety. It is something I have always had but last year it became unbearable. I saw a counsellor for about 3 months and that seemed to really help. I did also see the GP who gave me Sertraline which was fking awful.
Anyway most part of the year has been fine but recently I have felt a bit funny. Best way to describe it is I just seem to have lost my mojo and felt a but blue. Last week though my anxiety has returned with a vengeance.
This morning I was doing some Halloween craft with the kids and were building a spooky chocolate house. I had to sick it together with piped icing and my hand was shaking so much my kids were asking why.
Work has been a bit stressful recently and I have been thinking about a new job. Anyone ever had something like this suddenly return for no discernible reason?
I emailed the counsellor I saw last year and unfortunately he has moved away and isn't practising currently. He gave me some other names but that feels like starting from scratch.
Anyway most part of the year has been fine but recently I have felt a bit funny. Best way to describe it is I just seem to have lost my mojo and felt a but blue. Last week though my anxiety has returned with a vengeance.
This morning I was doing some Halloween craft with the kids and were building a spooky chocolate house. I had to sick it together with piped icing and my hand was shaking so much my kids were asking why.
Work has been a bit stressful recently and I have been thinking about a new job. Anyone ever had something like this suddenly return for no discernible reason?
I emailed the counsellor I saw last year and unfortunately he has moved away and isn't practising currently. He gave me some other names but that feels like starting from scratch.
Mine has all been work related through the years, getting worse as I got older, mostly I was able to kept a lid on it.
The worst bout was when a colleague, who I detested was promoted to my direct line manager.
Something that helped me was taking control. I was lucky to be well respected, so went to the director in charge and explained the situation. To prevent me from leaving he changed the reporting structure, keeping the situation tolerable.
I was lucky to be in a position with some leverage. All I can say is try to work out the trigger and take control. Even having a plan makes me feel better.
The worst bout was when a colleague, who I detested was promoted to my direct line manager.
Something that helped me was taking control. I was lucky to be well respected, so went to the director in charge and explained the situation. To prevent me from leaving he changed the reporting structure, keeping the situation tolerable.
I was lucky to be in a position with some leverage. All I can say is try to work out the trigger and take control. Even having a plan makes me feel better.
944fan said:
Last year I had a bad bout of anxiety. It is something I have always had but last year it became unbearable. I saw a counsellor for about 3 months and that seemed to really help. I did also see the GP who gave me Sertraline which was fking awful.
Anyway most part of the year has been fine but recently I have felt a bit funny. Best way to describe it is I just seem to have lost my mojo and felt a but blue. Last week though my anxiety has returned with a vengeance.
This morning I was doing some Halloween craft with the kids and were building a spooky chocolate house. I had to sick it together with piped icing and my hand was shaking so much my kids were asking why.
Work has been a bit stressful recently and I have been thinking about a new job. Anyone ever had something like this suddenly return for no discernible reason?
I emailed the counsellor I saw last year and unfortunately he has moved away and isn't practising currently. He gave me some other names but that feels like starting from scratch.
Quite simply your stress levels have increased.Anyway most part of the year has been fine but recently I have felt a bit funny. Best way to describe it is I just seem to have lost my mojo and felt a but blue. Last week though my anxiety has returned with a vengeance.
This morning I was doing some Halloween craft with the kids and were building a spooky chocolate house. I had to sick it together with piped icing and my hand was shaking so much my kids were asking why.
Work has been a bit stressful recently and I have been thinking about a new job. Anyone ever had something like this suddenly return for no discernible reason?
I emailed the counsellor I saw last year and unfortunately he has moved away and isn't practising currently. He gave me some other names but that feels like starting from scratch.
You will have started taking it for granted that you're better.
Lay off the booze, caffeine and get back exercising and eating well.
Book a holidays but not one as an excuse to drink every day but one where you take care of yourself, go for massages and simply be able to relax.
i assume that your counselling intervention was along cognitive lines ? Not at all uncommon to need a "refresher" periodically. Given that you readily identify health gains then would suggest a brief re-run.
you don't need your GP to arrange this - google "IAPT and (insert your location)" and self refer. they just need a contact detail and offer really timely response times (that is , time to contact not necessarily time to appointment)
sertraline almost certainly the wrong drug (despite being licensed for treatment of anxiety)
paul
you don't need your GP to arrange this - google "IAPT and (insert your location)" and self refer. they just need a contact detail and offer really timely response times (that is , time to contact not necessarily time to appointment)
sertraline almost certainly the wrong drug (despite being licensed for treatment of anxiety)
paul
Edited by paulmakin on Monday 2nd November 00:42
Have you had any blood work taken? Request it to see where you're levels are at, specifically testosterone and E2 levels. I'm not sure on your age (although it's not really important) but I too had exactly the same thing around my 30th, crazy anxiety, loss of confidence the works. At the time I was going through a lot and was massively stressed.
I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
Evolved said:
Have you had any blood work taken? Request it to see where you're levels are at, specifically testosterone and E2 levels. I'm not sure on your age (although it's not really important) but I too had exactly the same thing around my 30th, crazy anxiety, loss of confidence the works. At the time I was going through a lot and was massively stressed.
I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
Interesting. Years ago (when I was about 17) I had testosterone test done for something totally unrelated. At the time the Dr said it was at the low end of the normal scale. If it was low when I was 17 then I guess now when I am 35 it could well be quite a bit lower beyond the normal range.I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
paulmakin said:
i assume that your counselling intervention was along cognitive lines ? Not at all uncommon to need a "refresher" periodically. Given that you readily identify health gains then would suggest a brief re-run.
It was traditional talking therapy. Do feel like I could do with a re run. Just wish I could see the old counselor.Edited by paulmakin on Monday 2nd November 00:42
OP, you have my deepest sympathy, as I'm going through some similar feelings of my own at the moment. I did a group course in the first few months of 2014 and have gone back to some of the notes etc from the time to look at some of the techniques we used then.
I've started with a list of all the issues which are on my mind at the moment, whether I think I feel anxious about them or not, to see what is on my mind and what I can do about them and when. For me, its given a sense of perspective to them. Also, the "why worry now, about something which might happen in the new year" helped me.
As others have said, good diet and some exercise has helped. I now know there's no quick fix today or tomorrow but that there is a longer plan to work towards.
This is just my personal experience. Everyone's different.
I've started with a list of all the issues which are on my mind at the moment, whether I think I feel anxious about them or not, to see what is on my mind and what I can do about them and when. For me, its given a sense of perspective to them. Also, the "why worry now, about something which might happen in the new year" helped me.
As others have said, good diet and some exercise has helped. I now know there's no quick fix today or tomorrow but that there is a longer plan to work towards.
This is just my personal experience. Everyone's different.
944fan said:
Evolved said:
Have you had any blood work taken? Request it to see where you're levels are at, specifically testosterone and E2 levels. I'm not sure on your age (although it's not really important) but I too had exactly the same thing around my 30th, crazy anxiety, loss of confidence the works. At the time I was going through a lot and was massively stressed.
I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
Interesting. Years ago (when I was about 17) I had testosterone test done for something totally unrelated. At the time the Dr said it was at the low end of the normal scale. If it was low when I was 17 then I guess now when I am 35 it could well be quite a bit lower beyond the normal range.I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
I suggest you book in and request a full blood panel done specifically requesting those two hormones.
944fan said:
Evolved said:
Have you had any blood work taken? Request it to see where you're levels are at, specifically testosterone and E2 levels. I'm not sure on your age (although it's not really important) but I too had exactly the same thing around my 30th, crazy anxiety, loss of confidence the works. At the time I was going through a lot and was massively stressed.
I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
Interesting. Years ago (when I was about 17) I had testosterone test done for something totally unrelated. At the time the Dr said it was at the low end of the normal scale. If it was low when I was 17 then I guess now when I am 35 it could well be quite a bit lower beyond the normal range.I was finally tested for test and found my levels to be very low, I am now on trt and while it's not prefect, it has taken care of the anxiety I was feeling. You may just find that you're over stressed, some people don't handle it well, me included and while you don't feel it, your body is reacting to It by ramping up cortisol etc as a reaction.
I suggest you book in and request a full blood panel done specifically requesting those two hormones.
Got a Dr's appointment for tomorrow and will ask for the hormone levels to be tested. If it is that then great otherwise will find another counselor and go down that route.
Its been up and down recently. Felt ok at the weekend and then suddenly was sat down reading a mag and my heart just started racing madly. Took a while to get it to calm down.
I know I need to do more self help in terms of diet/exercise/stress management etc but find it hard to pull myself out of the rut.
Its been up and down recently. Felt ok at the weekend and then suddenly was sat down reading a mag and my heart just started racing madly. Took a while to get it to calm down.
I know I need to do more self help in terms of diet/exercise/stress management etc but find it hard to pull myself out of the rut.
All my blood tests came back normal so NFA. Waiting for an appointment from IAPT but that is going to take ages. Going to find a private counselor.
Found a couple of articles that really highlight my source of worry:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-practice/2...
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-practice/2...
At the moment I am working on a project that has tight deadlines and is a bit out of my comfort zone in terms of skillset. I was worried about whether it would be done on time but more worried about what happens when it is done and what if its rubbish. I felt paralyzed about starting it because I wasn't sure I could do it and was worried about a bad outcome, that fed into worrying about doing it as I lost a couple of days panicking.
Found a couple of articles that really highlight my source of worry:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-practice/2...
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-practice/2...
At the moment I am working on a project that has tight deadlines and is a bit out of my comfort zone in terms of skillset. I was worried about whether it would be done on time but more worried about what happens when it is done and what if its rubbish. I felt paralyzed about starting it because I wasn't sure I could do it and was worried about a bad outcome, that fed into worrying about doing it as I lost a couple of days panicking.
Struggling myself just now, suffer from heath anxiety from time to time.
Had a sickness/fever bug a few weeks ago never gave it a chance to clear and went back to work after 2 days (outside in the cold wind and rain) it's now turned into a urine infection. I've always felt my nuts/groin when I'm a bit unwell it's been checked before and it's just the way I am. Nothing's appears to have changed down below ( no lumps or swelling) but my anxiety has kicked in and I'm now in I've got cancer cycle that I can't shake, I work outside alone and once it's in my head I can't stop thinking about it. Just back from the doctors after suffering a classic symptom of very tight scalp/forehead ended up staying up all last night as I thought I wouldn't wake up with how my head was feeling.I've got some antibiotics and a bit reassurance from the doc that everything seem fine apart from the fever and peeing so hopefully can get back on track in the next few days.
Lots of deep breaths and swimming works for me.
Had a sickness/fever bug a few weeks ago never gave it a chance to clear and went back to work after 2 days (outside in the cold wind and rain) it's now turned into a urine infection. I've always felt my nuts/groin when I'm a bit unwell it's been checked before and it's just the way I am. Nothing's appears to have changed down below ( no lumps or swelling) but my anxiety has kicked in and I'm now in I've got cancer cycle that I can't shake, I work outside alone and once it's in my head I can't stop thinking about it. Just back from the doctors after suffering a classic symptom of very tight scalp/forehead ended up staying up all last night as I thought I wouldn't wake up with how my head was feeling.I've got some antibiotics and a bit reassurance from the doc that everything seem fine apart from the fever and peeing so hopefully can get back on track in the next few days.
Lots of deep breaths and swimming works for me.
prescribing won't be the long term fix but medication may well have a role in the short term. it's for you to decide if you can continue to tolerate the distress or, indeed, if the availability of a "pill" for when it's getting extreme would help you.
nowadays we avoid the "anti-anxiety" drugs in the main as they have problems all of their own but there are a number of preparations which could be substituted.
you could have a discussion with the duty pharmacist about non-prescription meds (over the counter). Promethazine, for example, is one such otc preparation we do use. it's a antihistamine but also licensed as a hypnotic/sedative and available without 'script. in this case otc does mean otc - you will need to ask for it and the pharmacist will exercise discretion, it's not out on the shelf. 25-50mg tds is the usual dose.
paul
nowadays we avoid the "anti-anxiety" drugs in the main as they have problems all of their own but there are a number of preparations which could be substituted.
you could have a discussion with the duty pharmacist about non-prescription meds (over the counter). Promethazine, for example, is one such otc preparation we do use. it's a antihistamine but also licensed as a hypnotic/sedative and available without 'script. in this case otc does mean otc - you will need to ask for it and the pharmacist will exercise discretion, it's not out on the shelf. 25-50mg tds is the usual dose.
paul
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