Another mystery car

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threespires

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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TooMany2cvs

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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piper said:
Is that not just a reflection? As it goes into the very tops of the doors whether they are gull wing or not it would not work. The rear window looks fixed with rubber beading all the around. In the photo there appears to be petrol filler cap on the near side of the sloping fastback, the frogeye sprite is on the offside, so possibly not a sprite fuel tank. Those hooded front lights are very unusual, can anyone comment on whether they think the driver is sitting on the left or right.
I'd agree with the fixed, gasket-mounted rear window and the fuel filler.
Looks like the driver's on the right - look at the amount of (bulkhead?) between the back of his collar and the rear door edge.
I can't see how the door tops would come out of the roof without the door being gullwing, tbh - but hidden hinges seem a bit... complex... for what's probably a home-built - albeit a VERY good one.

I can't see it being rear-engined, but otoh it must be a very low engine or a long way back in the chassis to fit under that bonnet line.

V41LEY

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Can anyone tell if it is right hand drive or is that a passenger ? Number plate anyone ? Looks very short

austin

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202 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Looking at the windscreen wipers I would say it's right hand drive.

Great thread, I would suggest, (as others already have) a post on Post War Car, would bring it to a much wider audience.

threespires

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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austin said:
Looking at the windscreen wipers I would say it's right hand drive.

Great thread, I would suggest, (as others already have) a post on Post War Car, would bring it to a much wider audience.
I've tried to find Post War Car without success, can you help steer me in that direction?

v8250

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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threespires said:
I've tried to find Post War Car without success, can you help steer me in that direction?
here http://www.prewarcar.com/postwarclassic/

AndrewCrown

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113 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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My search continues...
Ive been down a John Tojeiro thread this morning... It does have echoes of AC in it... e.g. AC Acea prototype type thing...


This is an Asardo...no where near... but getting close to when people were playing around with gull wing doors..


Yesterday it was John Wilks & Turner...
I did not know there was a Daimler sp251 prototype.. there are echoes in this design too



LotusOmega375D

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152 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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AndrewCrown said:
Yesterday it was John Wilks & Turner...
I did not know there was a Daimler sp251 prototype.. there are echoes in this design too


That's a very handsome car. Shades of DB Aston, Alpine & MGB all mixed into one. Far nicer than the fish-faced original Daimler SP250/Dart.

galro

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168 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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austin said:
Looking at the windscreen wipers I would say it's right hand drive.

Great thread, I would suggest, (as others already have) a post on Post War Car, would bring it to a much wider audience.
Perhaps Hemmings Daily would be interested too?

TooMany2cvs

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125 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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LotusOmega375D said:
That's a very handsome car. Shades of DB Aston, Alpine & MGB all mixed into one. Far nicer than the fish-faced original Daimler SP250/Dart.
When I first saw the pics, it looked a bit like an Alpine/MGB cut'n'shut. But looking again, there's quite a bit of E-type in the front, and definitely hints of DB here and there.

I really like it. But, then, I like the SP250, too. Probably because it's so damn ugly.

torquespeak

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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As someone has already said, the presence of a Anglia 105E in the background of the fuller frame version of the photo means it is 1959 at the very earliest.

The 'Haig in every home' slogan was used for decades, but I think it only ran in this form on London buses from 1959-1961 (I'm happy to be proved wrong though).

-Ed

AndrewCrown

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113 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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I think this project was discontinued when Jaguar were in charge as they had the E type up their sleeve..
LotusOmega375D said:
That's a very handsome car. Shades of DB Aston, Alpine & MGB all mixed into one. Far nicer than the fish-faced original Daimler SP250/Dart.

Roy C

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283 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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I don't think it's been mentioned so far, but the mystery car is turning left (east) out of Vere Street left on to Oxford Street.
Fortunately all the main buildings behind the buses are still there, so its easy to identify. The building with the canopy on the north side of the street was Marshall & Snelgrove, demolished in the 1970s and now Debenhams.

The 15 bus is KGK538 (RTW38), which was withdrawn in December 1966.
The 7 bus is LUC260 (RTL1083), withdrawal date unknown, but most of this type were gone by 1963.

threespires

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Roy C said:
I don't think it's been mentioned so far, but the mystery car is turning left (east) out of Vere Street left on to Oxford Street.
Fortunately all the main buildings behind the buses are still there, so its easy to identify. The building with the canopy on the north side of the street was Marshall & Snelgrove, demolished in the 1970s and now Debenhams.

The 15 bus is KGK538 (RTW38), which was withdrawn in December 1966.
The 7 bus is LUC260 (RTL1083), withdrawal date unknown, but most of this type were gone by 1963.
Good work

threespires

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Tuesday 1st December 2015
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LotusOmega375D said:
AndrewCrown said:
Yesterday it was John Wilks & Turner...
I did not know there was a Daimler sp251 prototype.. there are echoes in this design too


That's a very handsome car. Shades of DB Aston, Alpine & MGB all mixed into one. Far nicer than the fish-faced original Daimler SP250/Dart.
+1

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Shades of Turner GT?


Keep it stiff

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172 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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js68 said:
Shades of Turner GT?

Candidate for bad parking thread?

galro

774 posts

168 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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One thing I thought of: Earlier in this tread there was a user that was seemed convinced that he saw this car parked in the middle of a wide central London street on numerous occasions in the '70s. Perhaps it would be possible to reason us to which street it was and find some historic pictures on this street where it car could potentially be seen in? Which wide streets approx 4-5 miles from Victoria with street parking in the middle of it existed in 1970s?

droopsnoot

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241 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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My geography is hopeless so I don't know how close to Victoria this is, but we used to have a customer in Addison Avenue near Holland Park, when I visited there I seem to recall parking in the centre of the road.

ETA - might just have been near there, not actually that road. Perhaps somewhere I was driving around looking for parking space.

Edited by droopsnoot on Friday 4th December 13:22

Moikey Fortune

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235 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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What about a clue from the bus routes...and where they match.. think they were shown in a previous pic bus number 15 and bus number 7 I think?