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HughiusMaximus

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695 posts

127 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Evening gents,

Whats the general thinking on prices for the 899 now that the 959 been announced?

Do you think there will be a few deals to be had on existing new 899 stock?

Anyone take note on what happened to the 848 when the 899 was launched?

coxy0072004

48 posts

102 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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I think typically prices do fall when a new model arrives. I'm unsure the 959 is that much better to push people into it with the 899 being such a great bike anyway.

Just sold a 63 Reg bike with 5k miles on it for 10k. Not bad for a bike that would have been 12500 when new.

HughiusMaximus

Original Poster:

695 posts

127 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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£10k seems to be the standard for an 899 with 5k or less mileage at present.

I was debating between the 675, gsxr 750 or 899 as my next bike but had pretty much discounted the 899 as I thought they were closer to 11k if / when they drop another but theg would be a fantastic bike for the money.

That said I haven't riden any of the 3 so its all pointless at this stage..!

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Just buy one. If you want one buy it, if you don't want it then leave it. Why go hunting for these "mega" deals when in reality they rarely exist and even if they did, you'll lose any gain when you sell anyway.

HughiusMaximus

Original Poster:

695 posts

127 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Sound advice.

Il ride all 3 and see which feels best.

750 is the logical choice but the 899 is so god damn purdy!

coxy0072004

48 posts

102 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Having owned all 3 in various guises, 2 899s, 675 standard 13 on, 675r 13 on, 675r pre 13 and gsxr 750 k8 here's my thoughts.

The triumph. Absolutely fantastic bike in a 3 types, obviously not quite as quick as the other 2 but not far off. Has enough power to get you into bother but plenty of flexibility that a normal 600 just doesn't have as well as imo the best soundtrack of the 3, although both r models had the arrow can, and essential imo but the aural pleasure is part of the fun if a bike to me. The r models obviously have the full ohlins and brembo m4 brakes and in comparison to the kit on the other 2 bikes is far superior. Plenty comfy enough even on fairly long trips.

The gsxr was one of my first bikes but I really enjoyed it and the best all round bike of the 3. Typical Suzuki reliability and also the cheapest of the 3 by some margin. Lacks the feeling of specialness of the other 2 but great none the less.

The 899 is the bike you want to sit and stare at. Absolutely stunning. Widest band of power, but still has a peaky top end. Always seem to hit the limiter by mistake when on it. One had the termi pipes which whilst look nicer didn't really make the bike noticeably quicker and the stock cans are pretty loud anyway. Least comfy of the 3 and my
Main uncomfort was due to its slim design. The wind gets down the inside of your legs and you feel your gripping the tank quite hard. Double screen helps as the standard is far too low. Both 899 had major issues in the short time I owned them. One had the calipers bind on (scary experience) and the second leaked oil from the rocker which was found to be loose!

If I had to own just one again would be the later 675r.

coxy0072004

48 posts

102 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Buy a 1299!!!

HughiusMaximus

Original Poster:

695 posts

127 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Ha no way.

I did das a year ago and am struggling to justify the jump from a 2001 CBR600F to one of those 3 as it is...

I may end up with a litre bike eventually but no time soon...

Surprised to hear that the 675 is comfier than the 899, the pegs on the 675 look ridiculously high...


coxy0072004

48 posts

102 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Depends how tall you are. I'm 6 foot. No issues for me tbh. Do remember the seat being terrible on the 899 for sliding forward. My knees are low under the tank so stomp grips don't help but have them on most bikes I have owned.

The 1299 is fantastic and can be had for the price of a new 959! Much more advanced.

coxy0072004

48 posts

102 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Depends how tall you are. I'm 6 foot. No issues for me tbh. Do remember the seat being terrible on the 899 for sliding forward. My knees are low under the tank so stomp grips don't help but have them on most bikes I have owned.

The 1299 is fantastic and can be had for the price of a new 959! Much more advanced.

d8mok

1,815 posts

206 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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I purchased a new 848 in 2010 just as the 848 evo had been released. I paid £8900 for it new, which was just over £2k off. Spent the remaining cash on ohlins, monoblocks etc to make a better bike.

I purchased a new 1199 abs in 2014 just before the 1299 release for £13350 which was above £3k off.

I purchased a 899 in july 2015 as we all knew a facelift was around the corner. Paid £10700 new.

The 959's exhaust looks terrible in my opinion (there is a thread on ducatiforum.co.uk that is 20 pages long where everyone hates it) and it may put lots off people off. As to get the underbelly cans you need to spend £2.5k on a full system, or get a set of 1299 cans/bellypan. It could mean the 899 has less of a hit come resale.

Volition

227 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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d8mok said:
I purchased a new 848 in 2010 just as the 848 evo had been released. I paid £8900 for it new, which was just over £2k off. Spent the remaining cash on ohlins, monoblocks etc to make a better bike.

I purchased a new 1199 abs in 2014 just before the 1299 release for £13350 which was above £3k off.

I purchased a 899 in july 2015 as we all knew a facelift was around the corner. Paid £10700 new.

The 959's exhaust looks terrible in my opinion (there is a thread on ducatiforum.co.uk that is 20 pages long where everyone hates it) and it may put lots off people off. As to get the underbelly cans you need to spend £2.5k on a full system, or get a set of 1299 cans/bellypan. It could mean the 899 has less of a hit come resale.
How on earth did you buy a new 899 for £10,700? Now that the 959 has been launched my dealer is offering me a new 899 for £11,800! I'm still debating on whether to purchase a new 899 , 959 or a second hand 899. Like you I think the 959 side pipes are awful and that's what is putting me off it.

abarber

1,686 posts

242 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Volition said:
How on earth did you buy a new 899 for £10,700? Now that the 959 has been launched my dealer is offering me a new 899 for £11,800! I'm still debating on whether to purchase a new 899 , 959 or a second hand 899. Like you I think the 959 side pipes are awful and that's what is putting me off it.
Just get on the blower. I enquired about a used 899 from a dealer a couple of weeks ago, he was more keen to sell a new 899 for low elevens. That was with zero haggling.

Richyboy

3,740 posts

218 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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I hope they don't stick that exhaust on the 1299, with the sssa it will ruin it.

Volition

227 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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abarber said:
Just get on the blower. I enquired about a used 899 from a dealer a couple of weeks ago, he was more keen to sell a new 899 for low elevens. That was with zero haggling.
Can you message me the dealer please? I've made a number of phone calls and most don't have stock. I'm in the South East of England.

Those that do have stock have either sold them, or are offering the bike at full list price.

I imagine you contacted the dealer before the launch of the 959. New 899's are now sought after because people prefer the under engine exhausts.

Edited by Volition on Wednesday 25th November 16:35

Richyboy

3,740 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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So euro4 bikes have to be put back to standard to pass the MOT. Thats going to be a kerfuffle with bikes with intricate exhaust systems.

graeme4130

3,829 posts

182 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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d8mok said:
I purchased a new 848 in 2010 just as the 848 evo had been released. I paid £8900 for it new, which was just over £2k off. Spent the remaining cash on ohlins, monoblocks etc to make a better bike.

I purchased a new 1199 abs in 2014 just before the 1299 release for £13350 which was above £3k off.

I purchased a 899 in july 2015 as we all knew a facelift was around the corner. Paid £10700 new.

The 959's exhaust looks terrible in my opinion (there is a thread on ducatiforum.co.uk that is 20 pages long where everyone hates it) and it may put lots off people off. As to get the underbelly cans you need to spend £2.5k on a full system, or get a set of 1299 cans/bellypan. It could mean the 899 has less of a hit come resale.
I was in ducati yesterday, and they now have the prices for the option exhausts
The underbelly exhaust (like the 899) is £2600, and then £400 for the body work that accompanies it, so £3k all in (it's not road homologated either)
The Akra twin pipe titanium system, which is like the standard one, but shorter and with a mesh over the pipes (which apparently glows when hot) is around £1600
Apparently, both options are now Akrapovic rather than the previously offered Termingoni

The dealer also said that there was very little new/unregistered 899 stock about in the UK network, and that these wouldn't go at a discount if I could find one (how much of that was dealer patter, I don't know)

Gusto

606 posts

234 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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graeme4130 said:
I was in ducati yesterday, and they now have the prices for the option exhausts
The underbelly exhaust (like the 899) is £2600, and then £400 for the body work that accompanies it, so £3k all in (it's not road homologated either)
The Akra twin pipe titanium system, which is like the standard one, but shorter and with a mesh over the pipes (which apparently glows when hot) is around £1600
Apparently, both options are now Akrapovic rather than the previously offered Termingoni

The dealer also said that there was very little new/unregistered 899 stock about in the UK network, and that these wouldn't go at a discount if I could find one (how much of that was dealer patter, I don't know)
Keep bumping into you in these forums Graeme, had no idea you were into bikes with engines... It must be an Audi/Ducati thing. Hope all good with you

graeme4130

3,829 posts

182 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Gusto said:
graeme4130 said:
I was in ducati yesterday, and they now have the prices for the option exhausts
The underbelly exhaust (like the 899) is £2600, and then £400 for the body work that accompanies it, so £3k all in (it's not road homologated either)
The Akra twin pipe titanium system, which is like the standard one, but shorter and with a mesh over the pipes (which apparently glows when hot) is around £1600
Apparently, both options are now Akrapovic rather than the previously offered Termingoni

The dealer also said that there was very little new/unregistered 899 stock about in the UK network, and that these wouldn't go at a discount if I could find one (how much of that was dealer patter, I don't know)
Keep bumping into you in these forums Graeme, had no idea you were into bikes with engines... It must be an Audi/Ducati thing. Hope all good with you
haha, Hi, small world
I've always loved Ducatis, but now they're owned by Audi, I'm hoping they're more reliable smile
I'll get either an 899 or maybe a 959 early next year if they float my boat when i see one in the flesh nearer Xmas when dealer demo's arrive

neelyp

1,691 posts

212 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Ducati Glasgow have a white one left.