Taxing a car that is just being bought

Taxing a car that is just being bought

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oblio

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5,407 posts

227 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Myself and my lad will be picking up his new (to him) car next Sunday. We have sorted insurance out but my understanding is that it will need taxing under the new rules as any tax on the vehicle would have been refunded back to the seller. We are getting the car from a car dealer.

To tax the car we will need its reg no (no problem) but also the 12 digit number off the V5 green slip.

Can we pick up the car and drive it home legally and then sort the tax out on line once we are in possession of the document and car?

or

do we have to contact the dealer and get the reference number prior to next Sunday so we can pre-arrange the tax?

ta

Graham

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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From a dealer then it won't currently be taxed. Do it online at the dealer, over the telephone or on your smart phone if you want to be legal.

I'd say the chances of getting caught driving home without tax are almost nil, but sort it before driving it to be 100% legal.

Jim1556

1,771 posts

156 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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DuraAce said:
From a dealer then it won't currently be taxed. Do it online at the dealer, over the telephone or on your smart phone if you want to be legal.

I'd say the chances of getting caught driving home without tax are almost nil, but sort it before driving it to be 100% legal.
+1

When I bought my M3 last January, once the paperwork was sorted and the money handed over, the dealer let me use his laptop to sort the tax out.

Very simple, very quick...

Best of luck with the new motor! thumbup

Monkeylegend

26,335 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Ask the dealer for the info you require and tax it online just before you go to pick it up, is another option.

Presumably either you or the dealer will have insurance in place in order to do this.

Big Al.

68,830 posts

258 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Bad move picking up a new car at the end of the month, cost me a months lost tax, as I couldn't tax it for the last few day, and had to backtrack one month.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Big Al. said:
Bad move picking up a new car at the end of the month, cost me a months lost tax, as I couldn't tax it for the last few day, and had to backtrack one month.
How much was that? Worst case scenario is fifty whole pounds and the car would have to be fairly expensive for that to kick in.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Monkeylegend said:
Ask the dealer for the info you require and tax it online just before you go to pick it up, is another option.

Presumably either you or the dealer will have insurance in place in order to do this.
Insurance is no longer checked at purchase point on road tax as this is continuously checked under CIE.

Big Al.

68,830 posts

258 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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LoonR1 said:
How much was that? Worst case scenario is fifty whole pounds and the car would have to be fairly expensive for that to kick in.
Wanted to drive it home on the 29th of month, couldn't tax it from the 29th had to go back to the 1st of the month so basically lost a months tax.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Big Al. said:
LoonR1 said:
How much was that? Worst case scenario is fifty whole pounds and the car would have to be fairly expensive for that to kick in.
Wanted to drive it home on the 29th of month, couldn't tax it from the 29th had to go back to the 1st of the month so basically lost a months tax.
I know that's how it works. I asked how much it cost

oblio

Original Poster:

5,407 posts

227 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Monkeylegend said:
Ask the dealer for the info you require and tax it online just before you go to pick it up, is another option...
Thanks all

I'll give them a bell in the week and get the green slip ref number off the V5 and do it on line. Best not to take a risk even on the short journey home.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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anonymous said:
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What a load of bks. What about all the trade cars that automatically get refunded now when sold which would probably normally just run down or be sold with the tax on it? If a car is on the forecourt for two months then there's a loss being made compared to the old system.

Monkeylegend

26,335 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Ask the dealer for the info you require and tax it online just before you go to pick it up, is another option.

Presumably either you or the dealer will have insurance in place in order to do this.
Insurance is no longer checked at purchase point on road tax as this is continuously checked under CIE.
Showing my ignorance but what is CIE?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,327 posts

150 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Monkeylegend said:
Showing my ignorance but what is CIE?
Continuous Insurance Enforcement.

Monkeylegend

26,335 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Monkeylegend said:
Showing my ignorance but what is CIE?
Continuous Insurance Enforcement.
Thank you, that's my newly learned fact for the day wink

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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anonymous said:
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How much money do you think it generates? Seriously. Do some maths, I doubt it covers the cost of enforcing it.

Edited by LoonR1 on Sunday 22 November 22:27

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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anonymous said:
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And think of all the money saved by sellers where a buyer would only do a deal if they threw in the remainder of the tax.

Big Al.

68,830 posts

258 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I know that's how it works. I asked how much it cost
Full tax for the car was circa £290 for the year IIRC, 1 month lost would be £24.

It cost nothing over to tax online.

Or are you talking about the price of the car?

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Wish we could a write our own rules to get paid twice for the same thing as vendors. Clearly contemptuous setup.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Big Al. said:
LoonR1 said:
I know that's how it works. I asked how much it cost
Full tax for the car was circa £290 for the year IIRC, 1 month lost would be £24.

It cost nothing over to tax online.

Or are you talking about the price of the car?
I was asking as your comment suggested a big outlay amd real frustration at having to buy tax on the 29th to cover the previous 28 days when you didn't own the car. It cost you 22.40 door those 28 days assuming a 30 day month, so hardly bank breaking. What would you have done under the old scheme if the car you bought didn't have tax?

AdeTuono

7,251 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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LoonR1 said:
What would you have done under the old scheme if the car you bought didn't have tax?
As you well know, Loon, it would have been exactly the same. But don't let that spoil a good moan. rolleyes