I'm racist - anyone else?

[Leroy902]

I've seen this scenario played out on various sites whilst at work, I'd say when hearing both sides, most do have some form of racism involved, and most individuals that do have the complaint made against them fire back with the whole "their using the racist card",which is becoming abit of a bore.

[WinstonWolf]

Leroy902 said:

I've seen this scenario played out on various sites whilst at work, I'd say when hearing both sides, most do have some form of racism involved, and most individuals that do have the complaint made against them fire back with the whole "their using the racist card",which is becoming abit of a bore.

The race card became predictable and boring ages ago, it's time to stop people using it as a distraction.

[Jasandjules]

numtumfutunch said:

Quiet statement gathering going on by HR

Nothing else to report yet

Ok. Of course you have noted to HR that it is a co-incidence that this person has lodged a complaint immediately after you complain about her.

If you wish some off the record advice/assistance, PM me.

[Robertj21a]

jshell said:

This is one of those situations that shows whether your HR dept are the shower of shyte you expect, or have experienced them to be.

Rather worryingly, I have to agree about the HR concerns. Far too often they take the easy way out and just go along with anything that can close down any possible racist issues. That may cause problems for you - the innocent party.

[numtumfutunch]

Leroy902 said:

I've seen this scenario played out on various sites whilst at work, I'd say when hearing both sides, most do have some form of racism involved, and most individuals that do have the complaint made against them fire back with the whole "their using the racist card",which is becoming abit of a bore.

Sorry to have bored you

I may be lazy-ist, corrupt-ist and vexatious-ist however I am most definitely not racist

Thanks to the rest of you for the words and kind offers of help

I will play it by ear and await whatever HR come up with taking advice from my union when it happens

There is another witness to support my allegation however I have no idea if she can independently corroborate my "racism"

Cheers

[jumpingjackdan]

I work with a useless bearded gentleman. No one says anything to him despite him rocking up at 10pm on some days, having loads of time off sick, generally being st, taking personal calls all day long and telling my manager he will be working from home on Fridays from now on as he has to go to the dome shaped religious building where you don't wear shoes. Pisss me right off.

I'm going to ask to work from home on Fridays so I can go to the pub early!!

[2.5pi]

jumpingjackdan said:

I work with a useless bearded gentleman. No one says anything to him despite him rocking up at 10pm on some days, having loads of time off sick, generally being st, taking personal calls all day long and telling my manager he will be working from home on Fridays from now on as he has to go to the dome shaped religious building where you don't wear shoes. Pisss me right off.

I'm going to ask to work from home on Fridays so I can go to the pub early!!

I'm guessing that's just Santa Claus putting in the groundwork to make sure his big day goes off smoothly...

[anonymous-user]

HR are there to protect the company.

They will probably sack you.

I would join a union or consult legal advise before they start the attack. Unfortunately this is how companies work especially the big ones, even if the allegation is rubbish.

[anonymous-user]

I was once reported for a homo phobic comment, actually the guy was corrupt in a money sense and had caused a problem with a supplier, and I latter went for evidence and he was sacked.
But the MD called me in and made the allegation, there were no witnesses, I told the MD that if he wished to repeat the allegation he could do so in front of my lawyer and and he had better have better evidence than the word of the accuser, and walked out.
Never heard again officially the MD was happy to drop it he knew it was rubbish.

[Chilledbud]

If it makes you feel any better, I've a quick funny story.

We don't have the largest diversity mix in the Ambulance service I work for, but we have one very larger than life black fellow from Jamaica. Without doubt, he was the most racist person I ever have ever worked with, and used to constantly go on about being black.

Anyhow, after a couple of complaints from staff and patients, he was made to go on one of those terrible diversity courses they put on in the NHS.

On arriving for the first day of the course, he found he was a little early so grabbed a coffee and sat down in the room. As the minutes passed by, a few more people arrived, and then a few more. Just before the allotted start time, all the white people had made a semi-circle around the said Jamaican college, on figuring this out he went on Tarntino-esq rant about how as the only black guy in the room, they had assumed he must be the guy coming to give the talk about diversity. He stormed out and duly tried to sue the service.

[LordHaveMurci]

Once sacked a youg lady for being rubbish, she duly trotted down to the Job Centre & claimed sexual harassment.

Thankfully I had two other female staff who both backed me up, I resigned at that time (un-related & already planned) so never found out what the outcome was.

She told one of the other ladies she had done it to a previous employer too, nice girl.

[Troubleatmill]

The Spruce goose said:

HR are there to protect the company.

They will probably sack you.

I would join a union or consult legal advise before they start the attack. Unfortunately this is how companies work especially the big ones, even if the allegation is rubbish.

This. ^

[Jasandjules]

HR can be hopeless. Some can be good. The same is true of Union reps.

Ask HR for full written details and all the evidence of the allegations made against you. Have they said you are being invited to an investigation meeting or anything?

[jogger1976]

I worked with a particularly nasty woman who was British, but of Caribbean descent. She was a complete nightmare and quite regularly played people of against each other for her own gains.

After 6 months of her bullst, I finally told her what I thought of her. Cue crocodile tears and her running to the manager's office to make a formal complaint that I had called her a " stupid black bh".

What she didn't know was that the management, including my line manager (a black Zimbabwean) had been gathering evidence for several weeks so that they could formally dismiss her following several complaints. She also hadn't realised that one of my colleagues had overheard our conversation as they were walking past the staff room.

Needless to say she was gone pretty soon after that.

[Countdown]

jumpingjackdan said:

I work with a useless bearded gentleman. No one says anything to him despite him rocking up at 10pm on some days, having loads of time off sick, generally being st, taking personal calls all day long and telling my manager he will be working from home on Fridays from now on as he has to go to the dome shaped religious building where you don't wear shoes. Pisss me right off.

I'm going to ask to work from home on Fridays so I can go to the pub early!!

In fairness, that sounds like spineless management to me.

Are other staff allowed to work from home for personal reasons? We let staff do so, as well as letting them take personal calls as long as they do the required amount of work.

"P155 taking employees" aren't unique to any skin colour.

[KAgantua]

MarshPhantom said:

The firm I work for can't be accused of racism as they don't employ any black people.

[jumpingjackdan]

Countdown said:

jumpingjackdan said:

I work with a useless bearded gentleman. No one says anything to him despite him rocking up at 10pm on some days, having loads of time off sick, generally being st, taking personal calls all day long and telling my manager he will be working from home on Fridays from now on as he has to go to the dome shaped religious building where you don't wear shoes. Pisss me right off.

I'm going to ask to work from home on Fridays so I can go to the pub early!!

In fairness, that sounds like spineless management to me.

Are other staff allowed to work from home for personal reasons? We let staff do so, as well as letting them take personal calls as long as they do the required amount of work.

"P155 taking employees" aren't unique to any skin colour.

I think its the fact management don't want to get accused of being racist. No one else would get away with it.

[anonymous-user]

I was reported and investigated as a graduate complained that the only reason I didn't hire him was because he was a Muslim. That wasn't the reason, it was due to him being over confident, cocky know it all and would have upset the great team dynamic.

The diversity people loved this and launched into a full investigation with the possibility my job would be on the line.

The graduate rang me up on a weekly basis to berate me for my racism and ask if I had changed my mind, until one day when I asked him if he wanted to speak to the guy I did hire. The new hire picked up the phone said hello and launched into urdu fuelled rant. After 20 mins the new hire announced he was withdrawing his complaint and I would never hear from him again.

[Who Me]

xjay1337 said:

irocfan said:

HTP99 said:

A bit OT but it is due to racism; I have a couple of colleagues who are racist and it it is getting to the point that I'm getting increasingly fed up with their ill informed racist rants about immigrants, terrorists, muslims etc, now there is no one at my place of work who is what you may class as an ethnic minority; basically for all intents and purposes we are all "white British".

Am I able to make a complaint, even though the rants and racism doesn't directly affect me?

IIRC you can (same as you can for sexual harassment even if you're 'only' a witness)

While you can I would probably shut up and tune out.
It doesn't effect you directly.

This. If it upsets you then challenge them or dont sit and listen to it. Two people talking about their beliefs or hates is freedom of speech and doesnt affect you so keep your beak out and worry about your own life.

[Funk]

Vandenberg said:

I was reported and investigated as a graduate complained that the only reason I didn't hire him was because he was a Muslim. That wasn't the reason, it was due to him being over confident, cocky know it all and would have upset the great team dynamic.

The diversity people loved this and launched into a full investigation with the possibility my job would be on the line.

The graduate rang me up on a weekly basis to berate me for my racism and ask if I had changed my mind, until one day when I asked him if he wanted to speak to the guy I did hire. The new hire picked up the phone said hello and launched into urdu fuelled rant. After 20 mins the new hire announced he was withdrawing his complaint and I would never hear from him again.

Fantastic.

I can't stand people that play the race card, especially when the ramifications for the accused are potentially huge.