Thinking of getting my first tvr

Thinking of getting my first tvr

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stevec33

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82 posts

136 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Hi, im looking to get a tvr as ive always fancied one, but never actually had one. Im a bit unsure what will be the best model to go for and was hoping for a bit of advice. It would either be a chimaera 4.5/5.0 or a cerbera 4.2/4.5.
Which are regarded as being the better driving cars and which are more reliable in general? How different is the performance between the different engines and cars? Ive had a good read up on common issues with both cars and they do seem like a bit of a minefield! Il be looking to spend between 10-13k, which i know is going to mean lower end cars, but hoping i can find something reasonable for that. Thanks

Big Al.

68,830 posts

258 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Don't think about it, just do it. I started with a 4.0 ltr Chim, a baby in cc terms, then progressed onto a 3.6 ltr Tuscan, wow just WOW.

As I say just do it. smile

mart 63

2,070 posts

244 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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For that money i would start off with a nice 4ltr chim,you wont get a nice Cerb for that sort of money.But what you will get is the grin factor. biggrin

V8Mad

64 posts

117 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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mart 63 said:
For that money i would start off with a nice 4ltr chim,you wont get a nice Cerb for that sort of money.But what you will get is the grin factor. biggrin
Seconded. A decent 4ltr chim would be a good starting point.

QBee

20,957 posts

144 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Plenty of TVR owners in the Peterborough area to show you how good a Chimaera is.
They are no more of a problem than any other 15-25 year old car if driven regularly.

phillpot

17,114 posts

183 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Chimaera, Cerbera?...

Which one?...

Which one does the roof come off? ...

No brainer smile

Andav469

958 posts

137 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Steve, you've seen my car (yellow Chimaera 500) your very welcome to have a close inspection at anytime, I will show you what to look for.

As for which model, they are all awesome, for me it was the V8 engine and top down motoring that brought me to decide on a chimaera

pmessling

2,284 posts

203 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Save a bit more and get a cerbera.

My first TVR is still my cerbera and great car.


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,252 posts

235 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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They only made about 600 5.0 litre Chimaeras....so after all these years how many will be left? Maybe 300?

Good luck with the search, once bitten forever smitten!

jamieduff1981

8,024 posts

140 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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The Cerbera is easily the better drive, but the Rover engined Chimaera with much more stuff from other mainstream cars in general is very likely the cheaper to keep in good running order.

Your current budget would buy a decent Chimaera or the low end of the Cerbera market which in turn raises the probability of big expenditure.

I've only given one Chimaera a ragging - a 500. Decent engine but a little bottom end bias for my tastes although it's still good. Chimaeras are a little more flexible in the chassis than Cerberas and have a shorter wheelbase resulting in a twitchier car at the limits. The Cerbera is quite easy to play with by comparison. Of the Cerbera V8s, there's no difference in performance between the 4.2 and 4.5, but usually a difference in character wih 4.5s being the roughest/gruffest. The AJP8 has strong torque but a bigger rev range than the Rover V8 and the Cerbera is quite tractable.

Everything on Cerbs is dearer though. Chimaera brakes come from a Sierra or something like that, and the Cerbera uses AP Racing calipers and unique discs - a full set will set you back close to a grand. A Chimaera clutch suits the Rover V8. The Cerbera clutch is a custom small diameter twin plate thing costing £900 just for the parts. And so on...

The Cerbera is more in the realms of supercar running costs beside the Chimaera.

Edited by jamieduff1981 on Friday 27th November 21:33

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,252 posts

235 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
The Cerbera is easily the better drive,
Maybe, maybe not. All I know is you MUST be able to drop the roof. That counts the Cerb out biggrin

jamieduff1981

8,024 posts

140 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
jamieduff1981 said:
The Cerbera is easily the better drive,
Maybe, maybe not. All I know is you MUST be able to drop the roof. That counts the Cerb out biggrin
Aye - you've got to watch out for Chimaeras - they get big in the windscreen awful quick as the driver cruises along, roof half down/half in the boot, grinning like a simpleton with the wind in his beard until a Cerbera goes screaming past with flames coming out the exhausts laughwink

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,252 posts

235 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
jamieduff1981 said:
The Cerbera is easily the better drive,
Maybe, maybe not. All I know is you MUST be able to drop the roof. That counts the Cerb out biggrin
Aye - you've got to watch out for Chimaeras - they get big in the windscreen awful quick as the driver cruises along, roof down, grinning like a simpleton with the wind in his beard until a Cerbera goes screaming past with flames coming out the exhausts laughwink
Yep, them oil fires are awful troublesome hehe

harry henderson

358 posts

108 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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I bought my first TVR in April this year, a 4.2 Cerbera, and I don't regret it one bit. Mine was a the lower end price wise like yourself but I've been fairly lucky so far. Nothing too bad has gone wrong yet but I have spent quite alot on improving the car. I'd suggest buying which ever model you really hanker for because there will be times when you think why the f@ak did I buy this, but that quickly disappears when you take it for a drive.

stevec33

Original Poster:

82 posts

136 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Thanks for the info and reply's. I would definitely like one of the faster variants even if it means buying a car not quite as nice as the smaller engine'd variety. Ive had lots of fast cars and got a bit of a need for speed 😬 Thanks for the offer of a look round your car dave, that would be very helpful.

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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I just cruised down the south of France in my Chimaera,, I adore the Cerbera but in those hot conditions the Chimaera with the roof off, popping and banging on overrun right behind you,,, it's hard to beat a good soft top




Andav469

958 posts

137 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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stevec33 said:
Thanks for the info and reply's. I would definitely like one of the faster variants even if it means buying a car not quite as nice as the smaller engine'd variety. Ive had lots of fast cars and got a bit of a need for speed ?? Thanks for the offer of a look round your car dave, that would be very helpful.
I'll give you a call on Monday Steve.


FarmyardPants

4,108 posts

218 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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I just cruised down to Rome in the cerb, plenty of pops and bangs in that, too smile



Cerberas do cost a fair bit to run (servicing and fixing things) and my advice would be to make sure you can afford to maintain whatever you buy, otherwise you'll be cursing it whenever it's off the road and needing some TLC. Good luck and as Big Al says, go for it!

stevec33

Original Poster:

82 posts

136 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Also interesting that someone mentioned there is little difference between the 4.2 and 4.5 cerbera's? There sposed to be 60 odd hp difference from the factory, but perhaps these figures arent correct? Im sure ive read before that they quote optimistic figures

ukkid35

6,171 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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stevec33 said:
Also interesting that someone mentioned there is little difference between the 4.2 and 4.5 cerbera's? There sposed to be 60 odd hp difference from the factory, but perhaps these figures arent correct? Im sure ive read before that they quote optimistic figures
From the factory the 4.5 had a hopeless map, so performance wasn't so different to the 4.2, but as soon as you get a decent car remapped by Joolz the full 420bhp becomes available. Even my ratty example does 410 after the Joolz treatment. And that really does make a difference.

All of which is irrelevant if you are unwilling to pick up a spanner yourself - I dredd to think what it would cost to keep one of these cars running if you had to pay someone else to do the work.