The worst hot hatch ever
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GC8 said:
Citroen Visa GTi
I love Citroens, but the Visa was a horrible poverty spec 2CV replacement and whilst the Peugeot GTi driveline was spirited, it couldn't break free from its horribly humble roots.
It's essentially a 205 GTi but with much better rear suspension. What's not to like?I love Citroens, but the Visa was a horrible poverty spec 2CV replacement and whilst the Peugeot GTi driveline was spirited, it couldn't break free from its horribly humble roots.
Galveston said:
GC8 said:
Citroen Visa GTi
I love Citroens, but the Visa was a horrible poverty spec 2CV replacement and whilst the Peugeot GTi driveline was spirited, it couldn't break free from its horribly humble roots.
It's essentially a 205 GTi but with much better rear suspension. What's not to like?I love Citroens, but the Visa was a horrible poverty spec 2CV replacement and whilst the Peugeot GTi driveline was spirited, it couldn't break free from its horribly humble roots.
Galveston said:
GC8 said:
Citroen Visa GTi
I love Citroens, but the Visa was a horrible poverty spec 2CV replacement and whilst the Peugeot GTi driveline was spirited, it couldn't break free from its horribly humble roots.
It's essentially a 205 GTi but with much better rear suspension. What's not to like?I love Citroens, but the Visa was a horrible poverty spec 2CV replacement and whilst the Peugeot GTi driveline was spirited, it couldn't break free from its horribly humble roots.
I think the OP answered the question correctly in the first post.
Ford Escort gti, years ago when i was younger someone had one at a cricket club i used to go to had one and always used to bang on about how rare they were and how fast it was. Taking us for a 'spin' confirmed why Ford had sold so few
MK4 Golf 2.0 gti also has to be up there, a friend had one that was a few years old in silver,lowered with TT alloys and it looked great however it was very average in every single way. 115bhp meant any normal family saloon with a reasonable sized petrol engine was just as fast. Lazy effort from VW
MK4 Golf 2.0 gti also has to be up there, a friend had one that was a few years old in silver,lowered with TT alloys and it looked great however it was very average in every single way. 115bhp meant any normal family saloon with a reasonable sized petrol engine was just as fast. Lazy effort from VW
Another vote for the mk4 2.0 gti. I had one, I don't know why. It was s
t. Underpowered, heavy, lazy, boring, I could go on. It was built quite well though and was fairly comfortable. Was actually pretty decent on fuel too! BUT it was everything a hot hatch shouldn't be. Utter utter poo!
t. Underpowered, heavy, lazy, boring, I could go on. It was built quite well though and was fairly comfortable. Was actually pretty decent on fuel too! BUT it was everything a hot hatch shouldn't be. Utter utter poo!FredClogs said:
Fiat Strada Abarth, Fiat Uno Turbo, Fiat Punto Abarth, Fiat 500 Abarth...
Obviously I've never driven or owned any of these cars, I just don't like Fiats...
Hah! Clearly...I am now on my second A500...fantastic car. Ive owned 3x E30's (316i,318is,325i sport), 2XE36's (328i sports) 2x E46 330ci's, a W202 C36, a JCW Mini R53, a 172 Cup and a handful of other cars...and I don't think I've loved any of them quite as much as I love my 180hp 595!Obviously I've never driven or owned any of these cars, I just don't like Fiats...
rare6499 said:
FredClogs said:
Fiat Strada Abarth, Fiat Uno Turbo, Fiat Punto Abarth, Fiat 500 Abarth...
Obviously I've never driven or owned any of these cars, I just don't like Fiats...
Hah! Clearly...I am now on my second A500...fantastic car. Ive owned 3x E30's (316i,318is,325i sport), 2XE36's (328i sports) 2x E46 330ci's, a W202 C36, a JCW Mini R53, a 172 Cup and a handful of other cars...and I don't think I've loved any of them quite as much as I love my 180hp 595!Obviously I've never driven or owned any of these cars, I just don't like Fiats...
UnluckyTimmeh said:
The Fiesta ST. Maybe it was just mine, but I just do not see what all the fuss was about. Very crashy and not put together very well.
And compared to the opposition, completely underpowered.
I thought the Fiesta was one of the most powerful in class. 197bhp or 215 with mountune version.And compared to the opposition, completely underpowered.
Edited by delta0 on Tuesday 1st December 16:51
Definitely the Golf mk4 2.0 GTI and the mk3 2.0 8 valve (I had a couple of 16 valves which are better) and I didn't find the VR6 that great either always felt like it should handle better and be a bit quicker.
The Escort GTI or SI are just a badge no difference I think in power to a 1.8 Ghia or similar although the GTI did look quite nice in a 3 door in its day with the body kit and small Escort Cosworth wheels
Another one I couldn't get on with was the Peugeot 206 GTI I have had both pass through my hands the 150 BHP and 180 BHP and didn't think either was that good.
The Escort GTI or SI are just a badge no difference I think in power to a 1.8 Ghia or similar although the GTI did look quite nice in a 3 door in its day with the body kit and small Escort Cosworth wheels
Another one I couldn't get on with was the Peugeot 206 GTI I have had both pass through my hands the 150 BHP and 180 BHP and didn't think either was that good.
BrabusMog said:
I always thought the 1st gen Civic Type S just looked like a special edition trim... I've never driven one, so can't comment properly, I'm basing it purely on looks.
Pretty much is just another trim level with minor changes if it's anything like the FN3 I had. Slightly more grunt, a few interior changes and a harsher ride.I actually think the FN2 Type R was pretty dire, but mainly because it had a hell of a rep to live up to. As alluring as VTEC is, the whole package was pretty underwhelming imo.
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