SIPP provider goes bust

SIPP provider goes bust

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PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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http://www.international-adviser.com/news/1030608/...

I have come across these people before, an absolute shower of ste.

Client money safe though thankfully.

Hopefully their insurers will pick up the tab for the FOS awarded compensation payments.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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How solid are the rest?

PurpleMoonlight

Original Poster:

22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Suffolk Life dodgy I hear.

wink

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Suffolk Life dodgy I hear.

wink
rofl

Ginge R

4,761 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Offered without comment..

https://www.finalytiq.co.uk/downloads/sipp-financi...

Eta: this might help!

https://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/issues/12-may-201...

Edited by Ginge R on Wednesday 10th August 16:08

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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More smoke and mirrors! "18 non-insured bespoke SIPP providers, who together account for more than 90% of the market"

Sounds like 90% of the crap, bottom of the heap, wide-boy providers, not 90% of the total SIPP market. Deliberately deceptive headline IMO.

Yet another good reason to stick with the big boys. yes

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Phew....we got a B !!

JulianPH

9,917 posts

115 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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I've never heard of them - or the company that bought them - so am guessing they are very small players.

To be fair though, they didn't go bust and I have never heard of one SIPP provider going bust. Whatever their other troubles they probably were not going to meet their new capital adequacy level so the FCA would insist they put themselves into Special Administration to enable a pre pack sale to another provider.

This has been happening a lot recently. Remember too that all client money/asset is held in trust and ring fenced from the SIPP provider itself.

Still, always use the big boys or ask for proof they hold sufficient capital adequacy.

PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

158 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Brooklands claim to have had over 5000 SIPP's, which is quite considerable.

They did go bust, they couldn't meet the substantial pending Ombdusman compensation awards against them.

JulianPH

9,917 posts

115 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Brooklands claim to have had over 5000 SIPP's, which is quite considerable.

They did go bust, they couldn't meet the substantial pending Ombdusman compensation awards against them.
I didn't realise that. That has got to be a monumental management f**k up to send a company with 5,000 clients paying repeat fees to the wall.

I'm guessing they got involved in UCIS schemes that also went down if there were large compensation awards on them (but of course it could be anything).

At least the clients are safe and may perhaps get better service from the new provider.

Ginge R

4,761 posts

220 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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A series of flawed investment decisions crippled it, the (initial?) FOS adjudication so won't have helped. LM investments was probably one of the most carcinogenic of all SIPP scandals. God knows how much business was placed there. I find it difficult to believe there were only a few isolated cases.

http://asic.gov.au/about-asic/media-centre/key-mat...

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-high-cost-of...

http://www.internationalinvestment.net/products/re...


Ginge R

4,761 posts

220 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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I see AJ Bell is changing its SIPP charging structure. The biggest winners are those with fund holdings of up to £50,000.

https://www.youinvest.co.uk/charges-and-rates

Ginge R

4,761 posts

220 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Thought provoking stuff from Laura.

"No less than five well-known names have significant exposure to Harlequin. Two, I’m told, do not have the requisite professional indemnity insurance to cover the likely claims."

http://www.ftadviser.com/2016/08/15/opinion/blogs/...

JulianPH

9,917 posts

115 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Ginge R said:
Thought provoking stuff from Laura.

"No less than five well-known names have significant exposure to Harlequin. Two, I’m told, do not have the requisite professional indemnity insurance to cover the likely claims."

http://www.ftadviser.com/2016/08/15/opinion/blogs/...
That is very worrying... Does anyone have any idea who the five "well-known names" could be?

Ginge R

4,761 posts

220 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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I think some of us could venture a well aimed punt. But publicly? I don't think my PI underwriter would much like it..

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Makka Pakka, Tombliboo Ooo, Upsy Daisy, Tombliboo Eee, Tombliboo Unn ??

Ginge R

4,761 posts

220 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Busted.

Ginge R

4,761 posts

220 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Can't read much of that because I block ads!

Brooklands did a pre-pack. Sold the SIPP book dirt cheap and left the compensation to be picked up by someone else.

Hope the owner gets strung up, but I doubt he will be.