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Big Brakes

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superwedge

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1,286 posts

149 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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been looking on ebay at big brakes for the wedge,you can 4 pots from 350-500 to bolt on, as long you 15ins wheel, the capri, Cortina,granada are all the bolt holes gap,s, just look up capri sport brakes,just use your vented disc cheap as chips i think,

Edited by superwedge on Tuesday 3rd January 22:25

mk1fan

10,523 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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While I'm with you on the value front there are plenty who'll disagree.

My only thought would be brake balance given the comparable poor performing rear set up.

superwedge

Original Poster:

1,286 posts

149 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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i say most off the braking on any car goes at front? what these cars want are better servo;s as the capri 20.lite one is not, big enough I think, I think this upgrade would good any way,

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

150 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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mk1fan said:
While I'm with you on the value front there are plenty who'll disagree.

My only thought would be brake balance given the comparable poor performing rear set up.
I use the Brembo 4 pot calipers with huge 324 mm discs on my Chim, I liken the braking effect on many Tvrs to a motorbike.
It's actually the fronts that do most of the work, my bias has moved towards the fronts but it's much better, I can actually brake when the cars not perfectly in a straight line and still get stopping power on the front without the rear trying to swap ends.
Different model but I'd say these upgrades given careful thought to brake pads and discs can be a real advantage and in my view safety upgrade. I can stop much quicker thumbup

mk1fan

10,523 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Alun, the Wedge has the Jag inboard brakes at the rear which perform very poorly for a variety of reasons. You can't compare the effective, standard rear brakes of the Chimp to that of a Wedge.

I am no stranger to modifying the brakes on my TVRs. The Wedge needs a bit more consideration though.

I agree that most of the braking is done by the front brakes, does that mean doing away with the rears? No, of course not. Indeed, hotter versions of mainstream cars have upgraded front and rear brakes.

The kit in the OP is great. Princess 4-pot set up is cheaper but a bit faffy but the rears need some attention too. In my case upgraded pads and some ducting for cooling.

Number 7

4,103 posts

263 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Rebuilt Fiat calipers. I wouldn't chance it, especially for £500.

hansdaal

267 posts

268 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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Hi,

I still have a 300 mm set-up for sale.
2 piece disc 300 x 28 which uses the AP/TVR CP6600 caliper.
Will try to find a picture and post it.

Regards
hans.

portzi

2,296 posts

176 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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hansdaal said:
Hi,

I still have a 300 mm set-up for sale.
2 piece disc 300 x 28 which uses the AP/TVR CP6600 caliper.
Will try to find a picture and post it.

Regards
hans.
It's not worth the risk buying brakes which to be perfectly honest you have no idea of the quality. Hans has AP'S for sale ready to go and AP are tried and tested brand, not the cheapest but it's not worth trying to save money, with something that has to stop you and your car ,IMHO.


Edited by portzi on Saturday 7th January 18:55

mk1fan

10,523 posts

226 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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hansdaal said:
Hi,

I still have a 300 mm set-up for sale.
2 piece disc 300 x 28 which uses the AP/TVR CP6600 caliper.
Will try to find a picture and post it.

Regards
hans.
Didn't know you did a kit for the Wedges.

Number 7

4,103 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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mk1fan said:
Didn't know you did a kit for the Wedges.
See this thread:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


KKson

3,405 posts

126 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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Hispec do a 4 pot kit for Wedges. Light weight calipers, vented discs and all the bits you need. Fitted a kit to the 350i 2 years ago and the brakes are stunning. Price with vat was £695 from memory.

gmw9666

2,735 posts

201 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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Wilwood do an option also, had them on my old 350, very impressive




KKson

3,405 posts

126 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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Hispec kit as bought and installed.






mk2 24v

647 posts

165 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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KKson,the discs in that Hi-spec kit look suspiciously like re-drilled BMW discs like I have on my setup biggrin

Does you know if theyou are 316x28mm?

KKson

3,405 posts

126 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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mk2 24v said:
KKson,the discs in that Hi-spec kit look suspiciously like re-drilled BMW discs like I have on my setup biggrin

Does you know if theyou are 316x28mm?
No, discs are 295mm x 28mm. Supposedly they are the biggest you can fit and keep the standard 15" wheels. Are you running 316mm discs inside 15" rims?

I've just checked the invoice and kit was actually £685 including VAT and delivery. This was for the grooved discs and EBC standard pads. You can get a variety of different disc patterns, i.e. drilled, grooved, plain, grooved and drilled etc.

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

150 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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mk1fan said:
Alun, the Wedge has the Jag inboard brakes at the rear which perform very poorly for a variety of reasons. You can't compare the effective, standard rear brakes of the Chimp to that of a Wedge.

I am no stranger to modifying the brakes on my TVRs. The Wedge needs a bit more consideration though.

I agree that most of the braking is done by the front brakes, does that mean doing away with the rears? No, of course not. Indeed, hotter versions of mainstream cars have upgraded front and rear brakes.

The kit in the OP is great. Princess 4-pot set up is cheaper but a bit faffy but the rears need some attention too. In my case upgraded pads and some ducting for cooling.
Jag inboard brakes, yes of course.
I remember them from an old Jag I knew well. smile

The idea is ace, bringing all that weight inboard smile
Hmmm scrap my comments then thumbup
Totally different animal. smile

hansdaal

267 posts

268 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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Hello,

I made the same kit for my wedges in the past. But won't fit standard 15 inch OZ wheels.

Hans


hansdaal

267 posts

268 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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Hallo,

Started first with roughly same set-up with the 4 pot Princess caliper.

hans

mk2 24v

647 posts

165 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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KKson said:
No, discs are 295mm x 28mm. Supposedly they are the biggest you can fit and keep the standard 15" wheels. Are you running 316mm discs inside 15" rims?

I've just checked the invoice and kit was actually £685 including VAT and delivery. This was for the grooved discs and EBC standard pads. You can get a variety of different disc patterns, i.e. drilled, grooved, plain, grooved and drilled etc.
16inch im afraid, although I haven't tried to fit a 15inch rim over them to be fair. May possibly fit behind 15s if the caliper was really snug to the disc i guess biggrin