Building a bungalow - Plans - Ideas - Advice
Discussion
As Pistonheads has become my go to sounding board over the years, thought I would gain some advice from people on here regarding a potential opportunity.
Quick run down, in laws have a lot of land, they have had planning approved for a new bungalow on part of their land. The idea originally was obviously to make their land worth more long term, they have no interest in selling the land with or without a built bungalow on, they would only consider selling within the "family". So originally this was for them to build for themselves, then move in, happy days, leaving the other house as more of a guest house!
However, having just had a child, in laws are interested if we would like to build it for ourselves, bit awkward as my wife also has two other siblings, one has stated outright he is not interested, the other lives many miles away, but could see him being "interested" just for the sake of being interested! Its been designed with them in mind. A bungalow will only be allowed on the land due to the location of other bungalows around it.
As for being fair to all their children, the proposed plan is basically to build it, value it, increase in value over build cost = profit, whomever buys the house has to split the profit 3 ways between my wife and her two siblings!
Planning has been approved for what you see, but now we are interested, it's maybe not what we would have designed. We currently live in a new build on an estate 5 miles away. I love the house we live in now, maybe not the location. Always wanted something with more land (see plans for land). We have a 4 bed detached house, never lived in a bungalow, seems a weird way to live. But this may be my only opportunity to realise my dream, and wives dream of building a house!
My concerns are:
-Planning has been approved, what happens if we want to make changes, does the old planning get null and voided?
-Needs another bedroom, maybe a master suite, possibly behind garage location now to overlook pond, but I can't work out a good layout without messing up the rest of the layout
-Do I really want to live in a zinc roofed, white rendered and wood cladded uber new build?
-They reckon build costs will be around £200k, I think more, we could stretch to £300-£350k
-I get on exceptionally well with the in laws, but do I want to be that close!
-It needs a bigger garage, maybe a detached double? with workshop.. planning issues I guess!
-Only been in our house two years, just done the garden, love the house, not the area.
What would you guys do? There isn't a huge rush on this, although they'd like to get a spade in the ground next year!
Plans for all your perusals. What would you change... without going nuts, I mean minor tweaks.
Cheers all.... this could be interesting if goes ahead..........
I think you can click them for much bigger versions!?!?!
Quick run down, in laws have a lot of land, they have had planning approved for a new bungalow on part of their land. The idea originally was obviously to make their land worth more long term, they have no interest in selling the land with or without a built bungalow on, they would only consider selling within the "family". So originally this was for them to build for themselves, then move in, happy days, leaving the other house as more of a guest house!
However, having just had a child, in laws are interested if we would like to build it for ourselves, bit awkward as my wife also has two other siblings, one has stated outright he is not interested, the other lives many miles away, but could see him being "interested" just for the sake of being interested! Its been designed with them in mind. A bungalow will only be allowed on the land due to the location of other bungalows around it.
As for being fair to all their children, the proposed plan is basically to build it, value it, increase in value over build cost = profit, whomever buys the house has to split the profit 3 ways between my wife and her two siblings!
Planning has been approved for what you see, but now we are interested, it's maybe not what we would have designed. We currently live in a new build on an estate 5 miles away. I love the house we live in now, maybe not the location. Always wanted something with more land (see plans for land). We have a 4 bed detached house, never lived in a bungalow, seems a weird way to live. But this may be my only opportunity to realise my dream, and wives dream of building a house!
My concerns are:
-Planning has been approved, what happens if we want to make changes, does the old planning get null and voided?
-Needs another bedroom, maybe a master suite, possibly behind garage location now to overlook pond, but I can't work out a good layout without messing up the rest of the layout
-Do I really want to live in a zinc roofed, white rendered and wood cladded uber new build?
-They reckon build costs will be around £200k, I think more, we could stretch to £300-£350k
-I get on exceptionally well with the in laws, but do I want to be that close!
-It needs a bigger garage, maybe a detached double? with workshop.. planning issues I guess!
-Only been in our house two years, just done the garden, love the house, not the area.
What would you guys do? There isn't a huge rush on this, although they'd like to get a spade in the ground next year!
Plans for all your perusals. What would you change... without going nuts, I mean minor tweaks.
Cheers all.... this could be interesting if goes ahead..........
I think you can click them for much bigger versions!?!?!
I like it too, but the big windows face north east, and the sun sets on the drive/garage. What's the other side of the drive? If it's a road then I understand, but I'd want the garage the other end and windows/kitchen/BBQ the other end. (Unless it's particularly woody/hilly that end.)
Our current house is tucked into a small hill with a north facing patio, and I really miss the sunset BBQ/drinks.
Our current house is tucked into a small hill with a north facing patio, and I really miss the sunset BBQ/drinks.
Lesgrandepotato said:
You should build that. Its epic. Really nice ideas in it with the 1.5 story area and set in a great landscape.
Only one garage? 
But agreed looks lovely.
Needs to be bigger though, I think you could use the existing footprint that the planners ahve agreed for another bedroom or two and then build a detached garage at the end of the drive.
In terms of planning, an application will not mean you lose the original permission. Nothing to lose.
Where about in the country are you?
I work for a contractor in the SE and would be happy to give you budget cost.
Just seen from drawings you are in the NE shame, will be a nice project. I would allow your higher estimate for the build.
Maybe a glazed link/entrance hall to connect garage and house?
We have done several zinc roof projects, never had an issue and all clients are happy. Roofing wise guessing single ply membrane or EDPM are also worth looking at.
What heating system do you plan on using?
Electrical design will help with people pricing.
Guessing the windows are aluminium? If so great, go with a reputable company that will supply and fit.
If you have any questions just ask! Will be a nice project if you go for it!
I work for a contractor in the SE and would be happy to give you budget cost.
Just seen from drawings you are in the NE shame, will be a nice project. I would allow your higher estimate for the build.
Maybe a glazed link/entrance hall to connect garage and house?
We have done several zinc roof projects, never had an issue and all clients are happy. Roofing wise guessing single ply membrane or EDPM are also worth looking at.
What heating system do you plan on using?
Electrical design will help with people pricing.
Guessing the windows are aluminium? If so great, go with a reputable company that will supply and fit.
If you have any questions just ask! Will be a nice project if you go for it!
Edited by joshcowin on Friday 27th January 14:51
Edited by joshcowin on Friday 27th January 14:55
Thanks people
The other side of the hedge is a road, albeit a country lane.
This is Yorkshire, so we don't get much sun anyway.
I am thinking the current garage needs to be a master suite, with big windows overlooking the pond, a mirror of the lounge side of the house if you will. Then detached double garage somewhere! But the current layout would mean you would go through the utility room to the bedroom!
The other side of the hedge is a road, albeit a country lane.
This is Yorkshire, so we don't get much sun anyway.
I am thinking the current garage needs to be a master suite, with big windows overlooking the pond, a mirror of the lounge side of the house if you will. Then detached double garage somewhere! But the current layout would mean you would go through the utility room to the bedroom!
joestifff said:
Planning has been approved for what you see, but now we are interested, it's maybe not what we would have designed. We currently live in a new build on an estate 5 miles away. I love the house we live in now, maybe not the location. Always wanted something with more land (see plans for land). We have a 4 bed detached house, never lived in a bungalow, seems a weird way to live. But this may be my only opportunity to realise my dream, and wives dream of building a house!
My concerns are:
-Planning has been approved, what happens if we want to make changes, does the old planning get null and voided?
-Needs another bedroom, maybe a master suite, possibly behind garage location now to overlook pond, but I can't work out a good layout without messing up the rest of the layout
-Do I really want to live in a zinc roofed, white rendered and wood cladded uber new build?
-They reckon build costs will be around £200k, I think more, we could stretch to £300-£350k
-I get on exceptionally well with the in laws, but do I want to be that close!
-It needs a bigger garage, maybe a detached double? with workshop.. planning issues I guess!
-Only been in our house two years, just done the garden, love the house, not the area..
You are in luck. If Planning is approved then the principle of development being acceptable is established. It would be interesting to look at the Permission to see what sort of Conditions are attached. If there are no Conditions that inhibit your Permitted Development rights you could make a lot of changes and some extending (including but not limited to garage) without needing to even approach the LPA.My concerns are:
-Planning has been approved, what happens if we want to make changes, does the old planning get null and voided?
-Needs another bedroom, maybe a master suite, possibly behind garage location now to overlook pond, but I can't work out a good layout without messing up the rest of the layout
-Do I really want to live in a zinc roofed, white rendered and wood cladded uber new build?
-They reckon build costs will be around £200k, I think more, we could stretch to £300-£350k
-I get on exceptionally well with the in laws, but do I want to be that close!
-It needs a bigger garage, maybe a detached double? with workshop.. planning issues I guess!
-Only been in our house two years, just done the garden, love the house, not the area..
Your best bet would be to set a meeting with the LPA and scope them out on what they would be happy for you to change. Then, put in an application for Minor Material Amendment (MMA) or Non-Material Amendment (NMA) as appropriate.
Make as many Amendments as you can to increase size and adapt it to what you want without requiring any new Full Planning submission. Hopefully, if there are no restrictions on PD rights you can also avoid letting the LPA know that you will be adding a bit more under your PD rights.
I would start with as much MMA/NMA as possible. Then, I would put in for Full Planning for an Extension to accommodate the Master Bedroom. Because the principle of development is established the case would be that it will enable it to stay in the family as a family home...there is a lot of support for this in the NPF....though I would also try to bolster this by including something that isn't included on the original such as solar electricity or water heating panels to fit with LPA sustainability policies.
Build it out + a bit more under PD rights (If in AONB or National Park PD Rights restricted)
joestifff said:
-Needs another bedroom, maybe a master suite, possibly behind garage location now to overlook pond, but I can't work out a good layout without messing up the rest of the layout
Have you considered going down to a lower level for extra space whilst maintaining the same above ground building, master can be on the ground floor but any extra space could be on a below ground level.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff