Non-Disclosure Agreement - SCAM ?

Non-Disclosure Agreement - SCAM ?

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KJR

Original Poster:

794 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Not sure if this is some sort of scam or not ?

Bit of background.

My father, now in his eighties, has been share dealing, as a private individual, for about 20 years.

He invested in shares in COMPANY X and sold them 2 or 3 years ago.

Last week he had a phone call from someone at Ralston Consultancy Limited in New York stating that they, Ralston, were involved in putting together a deal to buy COMPANY X and they, Ralston, were contacting former share holders as they may be entitled to receive some benefit from this deal.

He has been asked to complete a Non-Disclosure Agreement, see below, with details of his previous holding in COMPANY X.

Neither of us are sure if this legitimate or not. Why would someone who is not a current share holder be entitled to anything from the deal to buy COMPANY X ?




Cut/Paste, with edits, of the Non-Disclosure Agreement :

Date: February 10, 2017
To: My DAD
Phone No.:
Mobile No.:
E-mail: From: Ms. Elizabeth Hunter/ Administration Department
CC: Mr. Mike Banner / Mergers & Acquisition Department
Phone No.: + 1 646 578 8528
Fax No.: + 1 646 514 8586
Email: info@ralstonltd.com
Website: www.ralstonltd.com
Number of Pages Sent including cover sheet: 2
Dear My DAD,
With reference to your recent conversation Mr. Mike Banner / Acquisition Department, we are attaching the standard Non-Disclosure Agreement, which confirms that you will not disclose confidential information about the acquisition of COMPANY X to other parties.

Please fill in the details such as the full name and number of shares you originally purchased.
If the name of the company shares has changed since you bought it, you can also list the new name.
Our Legal Department will clarify your holdings and if you are not fully sure as to how many shares you own or if the name of the company has changed, we will re-confirm your holdings on your behalf.
Please sign, date and return via fax or email at your earliest convenience.
Fax: + 1 646 514 8586 Email: info@ralstonltd.com
Sincerely yours,
___________________
Ms. Elizabeth Hunter
Administration Department
Enclosed: NDA
RALSTON CONSULTANCY LIMITED
Mailing Address: 581 W 59th St., New York, NY 10019, United States
Phone Number: 1 646 578 8528 | Fax Number: 1 646 514 8586
Email Address: info@ralstonltd.com
PORTFOLIO UPDATE
Name of Stock When
you purchased it
Current Name of Stock (If it has
changed since your purchase)
Approximate Date Bought & Price.
If known otherwise leave blank
Number of
Shares
CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM OF NON-DISCLOSURE
Between: Whom Ralston Consultancy Limited on behalf of a Private Client Buying
And My DAD: The Vendor Selling.

I/We, My DAD: agree not to reveal, disclose, discuss or in any way provide knowledge of, access to, or information of any and all details or facts pertinent to the transaction between the parties mentioned above to any third party. It is agreed, understood and acknowledged that all facts such as banking codes, Buyers or Vendors names, their telex, fax, or phone numbers shall be deemed pertinent and confidential and covered by such strictures as cover all the information herein contained and considered confidential to both parties, any and all Private Clients for Whom Ralston Consultancy Limited act as intermediaries. The permission of the Private Client buying must be granted in writing to Whom Ralston Consultancy Limited the intermediaries, before any information covered by this agreement shall be disclosed or made available to any external third party. This is binding and agreed to and invokes all Internationally accepted Non-Disclosure, Non-Circumvention Laws and regulations, mandates and other agreements pending or in force in any
jurisdiction. The intent of this agreement is recognized by both parties and is agreed to remain in force for the life of this agreement which is for six (6) months from date of signature.
Signature:
Address:
Business Number: Mobile Number:
Fax Number: Home Number:
Email: Best time to call:
Dated this __________________ Day of ____________________ in the year__________________

K12beano

20,854 posts

276 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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KJR said:
.... Ralston Consultancy Limited in New York...
Have you googled this name - I cannot see any results.... scratchchin


KJR said:
Why would someone who is not a current share holder be entitled to anything from the deal to buy COMPANY X ?
yes Well, unless they're some fancy type of share category - not normally known in this universe - as a "mere" shareholder who sold some time ago, I don't see it either.

Sounds dodgier than a dodgy dodgem on Dodgers Day.......at first glance ...... any more info?

Doofus

26,078 posts

174 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Utter balderdash. If he used to own shares but doesn't any more, then why would somebody who wants to buy the shares try to give the previous owner some more money?

The buyer will buy shares from whoever now owns them, and may well pay a premium. Any gain in value attributed to your dad's shares when he owned them was paid to him when he sold.

TooLateForAName

4,762 posts

185 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Its going to be a scam isnt it?

They're building up the 'secret' deal and getting info on him. Next thing they'll be offering him the chance to buy in.

Out of interest have you looked at company X to see hats going on? Is it a pump/dump thing?

deeen

6,081 posts

246 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Do Americans have "limited" companies? I thought they used different terminology...

williaa68

1,528 posts

167 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Absolutely a scam. If he signs they will be back on the phone looking for a fee.....

Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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deeen said:
Do Americans have "limited" companies? I thought they used different terminology...
Not LTD, but you can put limited in the name. LLC or INC are usual here.

It's a scam, look at their shoddily done Wordpress website if you're in any doubt.

KJR

Original Poster:

794 posts

266 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Thanks for all the responses.

As I indicated we did think it was some sort of scam but were not sure how they planned to achieve it. TooLateForAName has provided one possible method "getting my dad to buy in on this deal".

I have told him to be wary of any future phone calls and if Ralston do call back he is to say he is not interested and hang up. I have also set up an email rule, in Outlook, to block any emails from @Ralston.com.


iphonedyou

9,272 posts

158 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Read as far as 'Mergers & Acquisitions Department' and stopped.

rofl

AGK

1,602 posts

156 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Website only registered a few weeks ago too and uses domain privacy to block the registrants details.