Does pension annual allowance carry-over reset?

Does pension annual allowance carry-over reset?

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oyster

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12,630 posts

249 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Assume the below figures.

Year 1 total pension contributions £1,000
Year 2 £1,000
Year 3 £1,000
Year 4 £117,000
Year 5 £41,000

This entirely falls within the limits as you can use up to the previous 3 years of unused allowance.

BUT what about year 6?
Does the allowance reset to £40,000? Or is the allowance actually only £1,000 as the previous 3 years contributions total £159,000?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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You can only carry forward from the previous three years to the current one. What is not used is lost.

It might help to look at it like this, this assumes year 5 is the 2016-17 tax year and I am ignoring the possible £80,000 annual allowance for 2015-16:

Year 1 £1,000 + £49,000
Year 2 £1,000 + £28,000 + £1,000
Year 3 £1,000
Year 4 £117,000 - £49,000 - £28,000
Year 5 £41,000 - £1,000

So year 6 will be £40,000 + £39,000 (year 3).

oyster

Original Poster:

12,630 posts

249 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
You can only carry forward from the previous three years to the current one. What is not used is lost.

It might help to look at it like this, this assumes year 5 is the 2016-17 tax year and I am ignoring the possible £80,000 annual allowance for 2015-16:

Year 1 £1,000 + £49,000
Year 2 £1,000 + £28,000 + £1,000
Year 3 £1,000
Year 4 £117,000 - £49,000 - £28,000
Year 5 £41,000 - £1,000

So year 6 will be £40,000 + £39,000 (year 3).
I'm struggling to see where your numbers are coming from.

I guess what I'm asking fundamentally is whether the allowance also includes a rolling 4-year limit as well (of £160,000)?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Yes it's a rolling allowance.

In year 6 the maximum contribution is £79,000 being:

Year 3 £39,000
Year 4 £0
Year 5 £0
Year 6 £40,000

LeoSayer

7,312 posts

245 months

Wednesday 12th April 2017
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There is a calculator for this on the HMRC website

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 12th April 2017
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It may help to know that when using up previous year's allowances you always use up the CURRENT year first.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Yes.

You must have some pension provision already though, and if it's a personal contribution you will need £160,000 of taxable earned income in the tax year of payment to get full tax relief.