Double Glazing choices

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GuinnessMK

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227 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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We own in a Victorian Terraced house, which originally had single glazed sash windows. At some point one of the previous owners changed them to timber double glazed windows.

They have a large fixed pane, and a small outward opening top light, with a standard stay with locking casement stays.

We are approaching the point of having to replace these windows with new ones and we'd always assumed we'd plump for upvc sash windows. However, we are currently in a rented house, which has 50/50 split hinged upvc windows.

The ease of opening and closing, and the ability to leave them cracked open an inch is great, so we are now thinking of going down this route.

However, that leaves a decision, do we have the opening lights at the top half, or the bottom half?


hyphen

26,262 posts

95 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Can you post a pic of the property?

NorthDave

2,391 posts

237 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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I'm going through this at the moment and wanted the 50/50 split so I could install plantation shutters behind.

Choices for me were UPVC sashes (£2k per window), wood windows with top half opening (£600 per window) or UPVC with top half opening (£300 per window). Given UPVC is warmer and has less maintenance - in addition to being cheaper - I've gone that option. Only drawback is the frames are thicker than wood.

Windows where the bottom half open always look crap to my eyes due to the fact the frames are thicker on the opening parts. I wouldn't consider having anything other than the top opening.

GuinnessMK

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227 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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hyphen said:
Can you post a pic of the property?
Ours is extreme left, our neighbours have UPVC sashes and their neighbours have 50/50 windows (with much to NorthDave's disappointment opening top lights downstairs and opening bottom lights upstairs!)




V8RX7

27,364 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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I agree with Dave - has to be top opening

rich350z

363 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Top opening looks better than bottom, but is bottom easier for use as a fire escape?

hyphen

26,262 posts

95 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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As the individual windows are not massive in size and no complicated Bay windows to fit reducing labour, UPVC sash may be a lot cheaper than you think and will help resale value. I would say to call this manufacturer and ask them for a quote: click (they normally have an online instant quote but appears its being reworked so offline). They are in the north east too so you can probably drive down to visit the showroom.

GuinnessMK said:
The ease of opening and closing, and the ability to leave them cracked open an inch is great, so we are now thinking of going down this route.
I personally would go for looks over practicality anyday- upvc sash with run-through horns and well chosen Astragal bars (single vertical in your case probably) are lovely! Kerb appeal is what sells houses.

Although you can get restrictors on upvc sash which means they only open a bit (to stop kids falling out), Another benefits of upvc sash is that they have a 'tilt in' facility which means you can easily clean them- your fixed part of the casement will be hard to self clean. Also they are supposed to be better in summer as when you open both top and bottom you get good airflow in both directions.

Go on, you know you want to wink

Edited by hyphen on Thursday 8th June 10:14

richatnort

3,114 posts

136 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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I'd go for top opening personally from a safety point of view incase you have kids could be easier for an accident

Hitch

6,117 posts

199 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Always top opening - unless you sit by the window and smoke.

Harry Flashman

19,831 posts

247 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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My flat is in a Victorian building. I installed tilt and turns with a central bar so they look a bit like sashes: they open inwards like a door, or tilt so that air can get in from the top but they are only open a bit. They are black on the outside so look quite smart.

No issues whatsoever in the 8 years I have had them, and they look great.

172

185 posts

143 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Top opening. Safer and cool the room down more.

Also 2k for upvc sash is crazy. I supply and fit mahogany sash windows for less

hyphen

26,262 posts

95 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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172 said:
Also 2k [per window] for upvc sash is crazy.
yes Hence me urging him to get a direct quote- OP's double glazing firm are having a laugh quoting such an amount . UPvc sash windows come pre-assembled and just screw straight in.

GuinnessMK

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227 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Quick Slide brochures and website read and digested, discussed with the domestic authorities and we've made our selection from their incredible range of choices.

Just got to send the forms off tomorrow and see what comes back.


Little Lofty

3,449 posts

156 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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I've just fitted these, they look way better than standard upvc mock sash windows, they comply with fire regs and have restrictors for kids. I would always recommend that bedroom windows have a means of escape and in some situations they are mandatory. If using standard upvc you can always have a dummy sash fitted to even up the glass size. (As per house to the left on the photo) The windows in the photos are from Eco-Slide and are £199+ vat, any size inc toughened glass, who ever is charging £2k per window must be a rich guy.




hyphen

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95 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Little Lofty said:
The windows in the photos are from Eco-Slide and are £199+ vat, any size inc toughened glass,
Look great, bargain price too.

Have you used the company before, how did you find the quality?

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 13th June 21:17

Little Lofty

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Tuesday 13th June 2017
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hyphen]ittle Lofty said:
The windows in the photos are from Eco-Slide and are £199+ vat, any size inc toughened glass, /quote]

Look great, bargain price too.

Have you used the company before, how did you find the quality?
I've used them on about 10 jobs and haven't had a problem with any of them, they are as good as any others on the market that I've seen. They made a huge difference to this house which had every design of window that you could think of smile






hyphen

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95 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Little Lofty said:
I've used them on about 10 jobs and haven't had a problem with any of them, they are as good as any others on the market that I've seen. They made a huge difference to this house which had every design of window that you could think of smile
Good to see a lovely house restored. Very well done, binning that porch was a good idea too.

Out of interest why was the loft front dormer thingy removed, isn't it a reduction is loft space/character?

Little Lofty

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156 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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hyphen said:
Good to see a lovely house restored. Very well done, binning that porch was a good idea too.

Out of interest why was the loft front dormer thingy removed, isn't it a reduction is loft space/character?
It looked out of place and wasn't original so it was binned. The room was a good size so still perfectly useable without it

037

1,325 posts

152 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Nice work.

NorthDave

2,391 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Little Lofty said:
I've used them on about 10 jobs and haven't had a problem with any of them, they are as good as any others on the market that I've seen. They made a huge difference to this house which had every design of window that you could think of smile




They (and the rest of the house!) look great. I'll get in touch with them for a quote.

Thanks for posting - this is the kind of thread which makes PH great!