Resin drive

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Taff107

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567 posts

151 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Do we have anyone here who has or does lay these resin drives? Recently had a firm in laying this stuff on an area in work and was surprised how easy the whole process is considering the high cost to get it done. In fact as it seems so easy, I'm considering doing my own driveway. Although pricey at about £60 a square metre to get a contractor in it seems the best product available these days so do away with their markup should save a wad of cash

Crumpet

3,902 posts

182 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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We have one and I'm still pleased with it. It's a sloped drive and I can't stand block paving so it's the best option for us. Unfortunately it's only as good as the base underneath it and any movement will crack it. Our tarmac drive (new resin drive laid on top) had been down 20 years and was fine but our 2.8 tonne LR Discovery has since left four indentations where the tarmac below has softened on a hot day. A normal car wouldn't have done it.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

172 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Yeah, its a piece of piss OP.

Crack on.

m3jappa

6,458 posts

220 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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The reason its expensive is because its expensive.

The resin material alone is around £30 a m2, then you've got the dig out, type of sub layer ? concrete, tarmac, plastic crates? I've added it all up myself and its expensive to do before theres any (god forbid) profit.

Im a paving company and i don't want to do it or really get that involved, if any comes up i sub contract the resin to an experienced resin specialist, someone who has wasted thousands of pounds learning how to do the stuff.

As with everything it is easy, but theres a lot to go wrong and due to its nature its not like say block paving where you can quickly just re do it iykwim.

Prohibiting

1,743 posts

120 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Resin driveways seemed to be on par with fake grass in the "things we'll do to homes that'll make future generations wince" thread rolleyes. Stick to gravel wink

mikeiow

5,454 posts

132 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Prohibiting said:
Resin driveways seemed to be on par with fake grass in the "things we'll do to homes that'll make future generations wince" thread rolleyes. Stick to gravel wink
Nice for those powerfully built directors in country mansions....but we live on a (nice!) estate at the end of a driveway shared with 2 other houses.
I'm not convinced resin will get a bad rap: if well laid, it seems to look good and absorb water well...imho!

Our tarmac is the original (~28 years old) & looking pretty tired and chewed up. For years I've been sweeping bits up (tarmac-gravelled anyone?!).
It's getting to the point where we need to do something.
Tarmac will likely be the cheapest choice, I imagine: skim the old and lay some new.....but we had some patio landscaping this year and the fella mentioned resin. I believe it would be resin-bound we would want rather than resin-bonded (very confusing!).

Anyway, I can see m3jappa's point: I assume tarmac is much less per m2, easier to lay and repair if needed?

We have one area where we and our immediate neighbour turn cars that gets more wear than the rest. Any ideas on how well resin would fare compared with tarmac for wheel turning?
Just googling showed that you can get good guarantees with then: https://www.sureset.co.uk/about/guarantee (no affiliation, of course!)

Cheers

Busa mav

2,566 posts

156 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Yeah, its a piece of piss OP.

Crack on.
biggrin

cahami

1,248 posts

208 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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As always with paving you get what you pay for, The best website in the world has some good info on it. http://www.pavingexpert.com/home.htm

gred

452 posts

171 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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We have a fairly large area being resin bonded on Monday, weather permitting. We picked a specialist company for the reasons given, and the prep work seems to be important so far. We have a mix of old and new concrete areas and the whole surface has been levelled and keyed with an industrial 'scouring' machine followed by a huge vacuum cleaner. I'll report back...

Aletank

103 posts

84 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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When they say it is laid on top of existing surface, I gather the surface height is then raised, so how does this work with where the drive meets the pavement or bottom of gates etc ?

gred

452 posts

171 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Our contractors have cut the existing concrete back by about 20cm and 20mm deep so that they can then feather in the edge. Resin bond is typically 20mm deep.

mikeiow

5,454 posts

132 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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m3jappa said:
The reason its expensive is because its expensive.

The resin material alone is around £30 a m2, then you've got the dig out, type of sub layer ? concrete, tarmac, plastic crates? I've added it all up myself and its expensive to do before theres any (god forbid) profit.

Im a paving company and i don't want to do it or really get that involved, if any comes up i sub contract the resin to an experienced resin specialist, someone who has wasted thousands of pounds learning how to do the stuff.

As with everything it is easy, but theres a lot to go wrong and due to its nature its not like say block paving where you can quickly just re do it iykwim.
Just curious: if this was replacing a tarmac drive, which has not suffered any issues with levels over 25+ years, would it be possible to simply 'skim' off 20mm (perhaps a bit more), whacka the base to check and then lay the resin?

(not trying to oversimplify, it just seems that replacing an existing driveway ought to be more straightforward, no?)

Cheers!

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

85 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Looked at Sureset for this, my existing Tarmac has blown from the concrete base, so they probably never primed it. Will prob get Mr Jappa round for an opinion, ( Local Lad) but will probably gravel and just jack the cars up in the garage instead.

m3jappa

6,458 posts

220 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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mikeiow said:
Just curious: if this was replacing a tarmac drive, which has not suffered any issues with levels over 25+ years, would it be possible to simply 'skim' off 20mm (perhaps a bit more), whacka the base to check and then lay the resin?

(not trying to oversimplify, it just seems that replacing an existing driveway ought to be more straightforward, no?)

Cheers!
it can be overlayed onto an existing substrate. you just need to watch for cracks in it as these will mirror through (reflective cracking).
Im not that experienced with the stuff tbh, like i said above its one of those things which looks easy and i think the actual laying of it is, its all the little things which can cause aggro.

Most people will dig out, put down a bit of type 1, then a tarmac base course then the resin.

I really like the look of the plastic crates, this allows some movement, remember its really like tarmac and when it moves it will crack, once its cracked it can't be repaired without seeing the repair iykwim.

However if its on crates then imo it needs to be on a proper permeable sub base. As normal type 1 and sand isn't really permeable.
Its still new and i think its a bit of a fad. The buff colours can look really really good, some of the others just look plain weird (imo).


gred

452 posts

171 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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So, following on from prep work on Friday, team of three returned to lay the resin. Quite a lot of material!




Cleaned down and prepped



piece of kit to spread the correct thickness to then be finished with a float



a few hours later, all done



Finished job viewed from one end



and the opposite direction, though the low sun makes it look darker than it really is



All in all, a good result and seeing the guys in action, it's clear that it is a specialist job - once started they cannot stop as each batch of mix has to follow the last at exactly the right time, as the two pack resin goes off pretty quickly. One chap also had to make sure there is a consistent mix of coloured gravels to make the selected colour throughout, plus a skilled man with a float doing the finishing.

8-P

2,765 posts

262 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Looks nice and it looks like you already had the perfect base which personally I think is the only way to do it.

Terra1

266 posts

113 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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gred said:
So, following on from prep work on Friday, team of three returned to lay the resin. Quite a lot of material!


Cleaned down and prepped

piece of kit to spread the correct thickness to then be finished with a float

a few hours later, all done

Finished job viewed from one end

and the opposite direction, though the low sun makes it look darker than it really is


All in all, a good result and seeing the guys in action, it's clear that it is a specialist job - once started they cannot stop as each batch of mix has to follow the last at exactly the right time, as the two pack resin goes off pretty quickly. One chap also had to make sure there is a consistent mix of coloured gravels to make the selected colour throughout, plus a skilled man with a float doing the finishing.
Looks really good! What was the approx cost per Sq M if you don't mind me asking? Are you up north or in the south? Been looking at this to replace our current tarmac driveway. Thanks

ChrisDT

1,863 posts

192 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I've also been looking into this for our driveway, as an example they have quoted £2650 for a 7ftwide by 30ft long driveway. But a more accurate quote needs to be obtained.

Still undecided as to longevity between this and bricks so i'm going to get a quote for both - for the moment I like this look but don't know how well it will age!

mikeiow

5,454 posts

132 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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ChrisDT said:
I've also been looking into this for our driveway, as an example they have quoted £2650 for a 7ftwide by 30ft long driveway. But a more accurate quote needs to be obtained.

Still undecided as to longevity between this and bricks so i'm going to get a quote for both - for the moment I like this look but don't know how well it will age!
So about 20sqm - over £130 per sqm.
Wonder what the rate would be for tarmac.

I also wonder how well resin works in the long term - I imagine it would be perfect for walking on, I am still curious about the duration compared with tarmac, especially when there is a car turning circle involved, with all the impact that would imply (as ours would be - shared driveway with neighbour).


So

26,501 posts

224 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Just be careful OP.

Coincidentally I've just started a new thread about this. We've got as resin bonded drive that's been down 2 years, it is going to have to come up because it's blistering badly.