Coal in a multiburner.

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bazza white

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3,568 posts

129 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Did our first burn of coal yesterday after 2 seasons of wood.I was expecting it to peel the paint off the walls but seemed to be about the same as controlled softwood burn temp wise.

This morning loads of gritty brown ash. Is this a sign of not burning hot enough.

Do you shut the buttom air feed on a smokeless coal burn or just y leave it open.


Any other tips.


Cheers.

Mr MXT

7,692 posts

284 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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I leave the bottom air feed open. More ash is normal.

PhilboSE

4,397 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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You should get a lot more heat out of coal/coalalike. Amount of ash depends on what kind of coal you're burning; housecoal generates more than things like Wildfire.

I use wood for show and coal for go. Use one of the other - don't mix.

LotusMartin

1,113 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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PhilboSE said:
You should get a lot more heat out of coal/coalalike. Amount of ash depends on what kind of coal you're burning; housecoal generates more than things like Wildfire.

I use wood for show and coal for go. Use one of the other - don't mix.
Why not mix? I find adding a bit of coal evens out the heat and makes the fire lower maintenance.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

132 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Mixing can be harmful I've heard. The moisture in the wood mixes with the burn f rom the coal producing acid, which can then eat away your stainless steel chimney liner.

Coal needs air from below, wood needs air from above.

rufusgti

2,532 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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I was told if you’re getting red/brown ash after coal it’s because there’s heavy clay content, cheap coal.
I burn wood 95% of the time but on a cold night I chuck a shovel full of coal on the hot embers before I go to bed and it pumps out heat all night. Someone told me if you want to slow it down take a shovel of wood ash and throw it on top. Although I’ve never tried it and find coal burns slow enough in mine. If there’s a good bed of ash it will still be glowing 24 hours later.

essayer

9,101 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Did you clear out the ash before loading the coal?

ooo000ooo

2,541 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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We burn coal about 90% of the time. Took a few attempts to find a type that burns well but doesn't leave loads of ash. Chimney needs swept twice as often though.

bazza white

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3,568 posts

129 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Loaded it up a little more tonight and left it a little more open.


I cant get near it. Its like Chernobyls 4th reactor.

Beverley UpHolland

15 posts

75 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Heat Logs are also xcellent

BugLebowski

1,033 posts

117 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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A proper coal fire with a decent draft is a fierce thing. My parents have an open fire with a weird underdraft thing which goes outside. When the draft is open, it is literally like a forge fire. They have a back boiler on it and it will have 20ish radiators roasting hot no problem. It will go through a 25kg bag of coal in a night if you keep feeding it. In comparison my two wood burning stoves seem a bit tame, but they're a whole lot more efficient.

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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LotusMartin said:
Why not mix? I find adding a bit of coal evens out the heat and makes the fire lower maintenance.
Because they require two totally different set ups. You burn coal on an open grate, wood on closed.

bernhund

3,767 posts

194 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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LeadFarmer said:
Mixing can be harmful I've heard. The moisture in the wood mixes with the burn f rom the coal producing acid, which can then eat away your stainless steel chimney liner.

Coal needs air from below, wood needs air from above.
+1. In addition, a raging fire isn't always the best way forward. Gentle heat over a long period is often more efficient. Also there's very little ash from kiln dried logs when burned efficiently, whereas coal will always leave plenty of ash that can't even be put on your flower beds.

ooo000ooo

2,541 posts

195 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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bernhund said:
+1. In addition, a raging fire isn't always the best way forward. Gentle heat over a long period is often more efficient. Also there's very little ash from kiln dried logs when burned efficiently, whereas coal will always leave plenty of ash that can't even be put on your flower beds.
Our ash pan gets emptied once a week, very little ash off the coal we use.

bernhund

3,767 posts

194 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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ooo000ooo said:
Our ash pan gets emptied once a week, very little ash off the coal we use.
I probably empty my ash pan once a month from logs and at this time of year it's burning every night.

bernhund

3,767 posts

194 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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bernhund said:
ooo000ooo said:
Our ash pan gets emptied once a week, very little ash off the coal we use.
I probably empty my ash pan once a month from logs and at this time of year it's burning every night.
Mind you, my ash pan is 2ft deep....lol

T5SOR

1,996 posts

226 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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I sometimes have Anthracite Nuts on the bottom and logs on top. The temp gets very hot and each log lasts about an hour. Mainly I just burn logs on their own though.

Trevor450

1,763 posts

149 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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We burn coal on ours because that’s what the last owner did. Ours is on 24/7 over the winter. Bank it up on a night, turn the draw down and it’s ready to clean the ash out and get going in the morning.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,142 posts

166 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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I burn waste wood bricks in my multifuel stove, which I buy in half-tonne loads (although I may have to review my choice as the price has risen rapidly and they’re starting to look very expensive indeed).

Whenever I want the fire to have a bit more ‘sustain’, I throw a handful of smokeless coals on as well. I don’t worry about mixing the two fuels because the wood bricks are exceedingly dry. The smokeless coal helps to maintain a bit more heat when the wood bricks die down, and the next bricks light more quickly when I refuel.

Perhaps one day I’ll try emptying out the ash completely and run the stove entirely on smokeless coal.

CAPP0

19,630 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Be careful how much coal you put in and how wide you leave the dampers open…



(The mancave was a bit chilly one day last Feb so I thought I'd get a bit of heat going…..)