Will you be an EV enthusiast?
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I'm trying to be objective here, but I can't see myself going to EV car meets, buying specialist EV magazines, being on EV forums like this one, etc.
I will be quite happy to buy an EV as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between an electric average car, and an electric Taycan, I’d still get a minor buzz (excuse pun) off the Taycan.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once EVerything is EV-ed?
I will be quite happy to buy an EV as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between an electric average car, and an electric Taycan, I’d still get a minor buzz (excuse pun) off the Taycan.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once EVerything is EV-ed?
Some people like diesel German cars. Pimped Fabia Vrs etc.
Kids round where I live have electric off-road bikes or converted bicycles and treat them the same as an ICE version.
Some people won’t be into EVs in the same way as they are petrols cars, some will be.
Classics will be runnable for decades to come so it doesn’t really matter as much as the posters who have EV arguments on here think.
Kids round where I live have electric off-road bikes or converted bicycles and treat them the same as an ICE version.
Some people won’t be into EVs in the same way as they are petrols cars, some will be.
Classics will be runnable for decades to come so it doesn’t really matter as much as the posters who have EV arguments on here think.
EV cars are for the favoured few that afford them, Joe Bloggs on a low income will require cheap ice cars to get to work, are there any sub £2000 EV’s for sale just now...no and never will be as the huge cost of a replacement battery pack will create piles of scrapped cars.
This push to EV is nothing more than green virtue signalling the infrastructure is no where good enough for a mass roll out of this technology never mind the affordability of the cars...it’s all bulls
t and people need to wake-up to see this.
This push to EV is nothing more than green virtue signalling the infrastructure is no where good enough for a mass roll out of this technology never mind the affordability of the cars...it’s all bulls
t and people need to wake-up to see this.Klippie said:
EV cars are for the favoured few that afford them, Joe Bloggs on a low income will require cheap ice cars to get to work, are there any sub £2000 EV’s for sale just now...no and never will be as the huge cost of a replacement battery pack will create piles of scrapped cars.
This push to EV is nothing more than green virtue signalling the infrastructure is no where good enough for a mass roll out of this technology never mind the affordability of the cars...it’s all bullst and people need to wake-up to see this.
no one is stopping bloggs from taking a bus to work.This push to EV is nothing more than green virtue signalling the infrastructure is no where good enough for a mass roll out of this technology never mind the affordability of the cars...it’s all bulls
t and people need to wake-up to see this.-CB
EVs appeal to my materialistic/consumer hungry psyche - new shiny tech that I think I need. The reality is that total opposite. I’m weaning myself of this way of thinking, but the marketing gods are powerful.
For most people I think they’re a premium white goods type of purchase, but I would have thought that in the future there will be EV enthusiasts like anything else, but I very much doubt it will have the scale and breadth of the ICE.
We’ve got a long way to go when it comes to renewables, and the current energy crisis seems to be knocking our green strategy back a peg or two, so the end is definitely not nigh for the ICE. If you want to save the planet don’t buy a 2 ton EV, leave the car at home and start walking and cycling more.
For most people I think they’re a premium white goods type of purchase, but I would have thought that in the future there will be EV enthusiasts like anything else, but I very much doubt it will have the scale and breadth of the ICE.
We’ve got a long way to go when it comes to renewables, and the current energy crisis seems to be knocking our green strategy back a peg or two, so the end is definitely not nigh for the ICE. If you want to save the planet don’t buy a 2 ton EV, leave the car at home and start walking and cycling more.
MF35 said:
I'm trying to be objective here, but I can't see myself going to EV car meets, buying specialist EV magazines, being on EV forums like this one, etc.
I will be quite happy to buy an EV as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between an electric average car, and an electric Taycan, I’d still get a minor buzz (excuse pun) off the Taycan.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once EVerything is EV-ed?
There are EV meets, EV forums, and a friendly EV community. So I think your question is redundant. I will be quite happy to buy an EV as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between an electric average car, and an electric Taycan, I’d still get a minor buzz (excuse pun) off the Taycan.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once EVerything is EV-ed?
I'm trying to be objective here, but I can't see myself going to diesel car meets, buying specialist diesel magazines, being on diesel forums like this one, etc.
I will be quite happy to buy an diesel as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between a diesel average car, and a diesel Panamera, I’d still get a minor buzz off the Panamera.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once everything is diesel powered?
I will be quite happy to buy an diesel as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between a diesel average car, and a diesel Panamera, I’d still get a minor buzz off the Panamera.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once everything is diesel powered?
CheesecakeRunner said:
I'm trying to be objective here, but I can't see myself going to diesel car meets, buying specialist diesel magazines, being on diesel forums like this one, etc.
I will be quite happy to buy an diesel as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between a diesel average car, and a diesel Panamera, I’d still get a minor buzz off the Panamera.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once everything is diesel powered?
Bit of a crap comparison.I will be quite happy to buy an diesel as a family car in due course, and it probably will do that job very well.
But it will be an un-emotional purchase, I think.
It's perhaps not all lost. For instance, given a choice between a diesel average car, and a diesel Panamera, I’d still get a minor buzz off the Panamera.
But that may just be brand nostalgia in action.
What do you think - will car enthusiasts exist once everything is diesel powered?
There are many differentiators to ice cars. The engines may be similar in capacity and architecture but give very different driving experiences as there are so many options eg performance v economy, noise v quiet. Etc.
That part of a EV is missing. The power delivery is the same linear approach with the only difference being range.
There’s also no manual gearbox. And increasing autonomous drive.
So you’d have to become an enthusiast of technology.
It does worry me that car manufacturers are going down the autonomous route. If they all drive the same, and don’t need to be driven, couple with car share or pay per use mobility solutions then IMHO what is going to be the differentiator for the average consumer? Price? Would you really spend twice as much to be driven in a BMW over a Hyundai?
Not me.
I think the OP summed up the usefulness in his post . "Family car"
The EVs are perfect for all of us for personal stuff but most of the vehicles on the road during the week are working in some form or another or taking people to and from work . Outside of personal things they just don't cut the mustard at the moment
The EVs are perfect for all of us for personal stuff but most of the vehicles on the road during the week are working in some form or another or taking people to and from work . Outside of personal things they just don't cut the mustard at the moment
I think the need to use silos is unnecessary. A car enthusiast is a car enthusiast regardless of how that car is powered. My neighbour has a very nice Alpina, I don't dismiss it because it runs on diesel.
Yesterday I was at Screwfix and a gentlemen saw me park up, waited for me and asked if the Kia EV6 is as funky to drive as it looks! I had a brief chat with him told him it's funkier, goes like stink and is the best tip car I've ever had and was as quick to 60 as my Z4MR!
It charges at a rate of knots, which is more important than a lot of people realise.
I get stopped and asked about the EV6 more than I did in my M2C (once someone asked what it was!).
Automation is a long way off but when that day comes it will be the start of the end. If you're being driven around in an automated pod who cares what your pod is? "Ooh.... the Mercedes Pod! Lovely"....
I don't think so!
Yesterday I was at Screwfix and a gentlemen saw me park up, waited for me and asked if the Kia EV6 is as funky to drive as it looks! I had a brief chat with him told him it's funkier, goes like stink and is the best tip car I've ever had and was as quick to 60 as my Z4MR!
It charges at a rate of knots, which is more important than a lot of people realise.
I get stopped and asked about the EV6 more than I did in my M2C (once someone asked what it was!).
Automation is a long way off but when that day comes it will be the start of the end. If you're being driven around in an automated pod who cares what your pod is? "Ooh.... the Mercedes Pod! Lovely"....
I don't think so!
chickenbarns said:
no one is stopping bloggs from taking a bus to work.
-CB
Unless Bloggs lives in one of the many places that isn't well served by public transport.-CB
EV's still do nothing for me. I remember when I used to always read car mags when going shopping but I rarely bother these days. I think it's an affordability thing mostly. I've always saved up and bought my cars with cash but when dull, basic transport is starting from £30k that just seems unattainable now.
Never driven an EV so I can't comment on that but I like my cars to be simple and characterful. Manual box, nice engine note, not laden with tech etc.
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