Ford Ecoboost 1.0 Cambelt Change
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I own a 2013 Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost Zetec which has done 50,000 miles.
I'm looking for a Ford specialist in Scotland to change the cambelt but struggling to find a garage that will take on the job.
Local Ford dealer has quoted me £1400 to do the job.
Is anyone aware of a Ford specialist in Scotland that has experience with these engines?
Charliecloud said:
Seriously £1400 for a cambelt. Is this because they (ford) are now saying 10years or 150k rather than life of the engine?
That sort of figure will ruin the 2nd hand values as the early cars will all be coming up for 10years old.
As it's a Ford the first instruction from the workshop manual will probably be "Remove engine"That sort of figure will ruin the 2nd hand values as the early cars will all be coming up for 10years old.
Then it needs a s
tload of special tools to align the camshafts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDkoaPwbfpg
Lordbenny said:
So….I’m looking at a 2013 1.0t estate with 75,000 on the clock. It’s up for £6000.
Does the belt need changing?
Do I buy it?
Find one that has just had the engine replace by Ford. They are doing thousands of them due to the degas pipe issue.Does the belt need changing?
Do I buy it?
On auto trader set up a search for 1 litre Ford Focus with ‘new engine’ in the free text box, usually picks them up.
GRC70 said:
I’ve now been quoted £1450 by Ford for the cam belt change and water pump. They didn’t mention anything else but I guess I can ask. Car has only done 18k miles but is nearly ten years old.
If you are going to do the cam belt, then it won't cost much more to do the oil pump belt, drop the sump, and have the oil pickup inspected to ensure it is not clogged up. I'd say there isn't much point in doing the cam belt if you aren't going to do this as well. Given the problems with the 1.0 ecoBoom's are well known, the values of 1.0 fiesta and focus cars have dropped quite a bit compared to the ones with other engines such as the Duratec. It's especially important with these ecoBoosts to use the exact oil specified by Ford otherwise the wet belt starts to break up, cogs up the oil pickup and in a lot of cases blows up the engine.
For many, these cars have a bit of mileage on them and are now a few years old. Given the cost of doing the cambelt (very labour intensive), a lot of people are risking it as it's not economical to spend that sort of money on the car. Ford are doing some deals on these engines now, and a new engine including fitting by some of the shops specialising in the EcoBoost can be had for under £3k (or ~2k if you are happy to fit it yourself).
It might be worth dropping the sump yourself to take a look? As with many things, if you've recently put a lot of money into the car on things like tyres, brakes, bushes etc, (or if there is still a fair bit of value in the car as it is low mileage) then it's probably worth getting the wetbelt done. Alternatively, I'd consider selling the car on, or risk it and have a plan in place / some money set aside for when the engine blows up (hopefully not on a smart motorway...)
GRC70 said:
I’ve now been quoted £1450 by Ford for the cam belt change and water pump. They didn’t mention anything else but I guess I can ask. Car has only done 18k miles but is nearly ten years old.
Hi also looking at getting this done but cheapest quote I have got is £1900 from a main dealer can you share the garage you used?LeftLake said:
GRC70 said:
I’ve now been quoted £1450 by Ford for the cam belt change and water pump. They didn’t mention anything else but I guess I can ask. Car has only done 18k miles but is nearly ten years old.
If you are going to do the cam belt, then it won't cost much more to do the oil pump belt, drop the sump, and have the oil pickup inspected to ensure it is not clogged up. I'd say there isn't much point in doing the cam belt if you aren't going to do this as well. Given the problems with the 1.0 ecoBoom's are well known, the values of 1.0 fiesta and focus cars have dropped quite a bit compared to the ones with other engines such as the Duratec. It's especially important with these ecoBoosts to use the exact oil specified by Ford otherwise the wet belt starts to break up, cogs up the oil pickup and in a lot of cases blows up the engine.
For many, these cars have a bit of mileage on them and are now a few years old. Given the cost of doing the cambelt (very labour intensive), a lot of people are risking it as it's not economical to spend that sort of money on the car. Ford are doing some deals on these engines now, and a new engine including fitting by some of the shops specialising in the EcoBoost can be had for under £3k (or ~2k if you are happy to fit it yourself).
It might be worth dropping the sump yourself to take a look? As with many things, if you've recently put a lot of money into the car on things like tyres, brakes, bushes etc, (or if there is still a fair bit of value in the car as it is low mileage) then it's probably worth getting the wetbelt done. Alternatively, I'd consider selling the car on, or risk it and have a plan in place / some money set aside for when the engine blows up (hopefully not on a smart motorway...)
Smithgz said:
GRC70 said:
I’ve now been quoted £1450 by Ford for the cam belt change and water pump. They didn’t mention anything else but I guess I can ask. Car has only done 18k miles but is nearly ten years old.
Hi also looking at getting this done but cheapest quote I have got is £1900 from a main dealer can you share the garage you used?Lordbenny said:
So….I’m looking at a 2013 1.0t estate with 75,000 on the clock. It’s up for £6000.
Does the belt need changing?
Do I buy it?
No, if there is no record of belt change,or replacement engine as previously mentioned, it can strip itself at any age or miles.Does the belt need changing?
Do I buy it?
I got one last week, 65 plate, 46k, main dealer service history, stripped belt. Always use the correct oil with these.
Doing both belts, and cleaning the sump and pick up, is the only way, and I would advise changing a plastic by pass hose too, as they are prone to failure, never ignore topping up coolant, many of these get cooked when it lets go.
My local garage does loads of them, a lot for me, he says they are relatively easy to do, charges 600 including parts,he actually likes doing them. I always get them back same day, providing they were not cooked, and not bent any valves.
Cooked ones require more obviously, but the most damage we have found on belt failure cars, is a couple of bent valves.
Contracting for a main agent, we see a lot of them, and not seen one that has got to 150k, if you plan to run one and keep it, don,t wait 10 years, and get it done regardless of miles on anything over out of warranty.
Quite a lot, come up with a low oil pressure warning, if it does, STOP DRIVING, a belt change and sump clean will save it, a sump clean will save it, but not address the cause of the issue.
Prevention is far better than fixing it.
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