3 pin plug

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SpyderMatt

Original Poster:

202 posts

219 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I am buying a new house and it has a Rolec 7 pin EV charger unit outside.
However, I have a GT4 and just want to park it and plug in a trickle charger over the winter months.
Anyone know how I can get an EV 7 pin to bog standard 3 pin 240v UK socket adaptor?



Edited by SpyderMatt on Monday 24th October 20:36

Scrump

22,064 posts

159 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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A 3 pin socket can be added to the Rolec chargers.
Some info here (just the first hit I found when googling to make sure my memory was not deceiving me): https://www.speakev.com/threads/rolec-wallpod-addi...

SWoll

18,441 posts

259 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Worst "I've got a GT4" post ever. wink

Europa Jon

555 posts

124 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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SWoll said:
Worst "I've got a GT4" post ever. wink
It's no big deal - Celicas weren't that special anyway...

rlengthorn

46 posts

159 months

Wednesday 26th October 2022
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This is what you want: https://evbitz.uk/T2___UK_13A.html

We have one, and its quite useful as a way of getting an outdoor socket at the front of the house.



Mr E

21,632 posts

260 months

Wednesday 26th October 2022
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Europa Jon said:
It's no big deal - Celicas weren't that special anyway...
How very dare you.

SpyderMatt

Original Poster:

202 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Scrump said:
A 3 pin socket can be added to the Rolec chargers.
Some info here (just the first hit I found when googling to make sure my memory was not deceiving me): https://www.speakev.com/threads/rolec-wallpod-addi...
Well I can’t find one anywhere that’s available. I’m stunned this is so difficult and can’t believe they’re making wallpods with no 3 pin socket for trickle chargers, jet washers, lawnmowers etc.

SpyderMatt

Original Poster:

202 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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rlengthorn said:
This is what you want: https://evbitz.uk/T2___UK_13A.html

We have one, and its quite useful as a way of getting an outdoor socket at the front of the house.
Thanks, that is what I want if I can’t add a 3 pin to the pod.
But the website is very amateur and I note they are not VAT registered which is v.strange. We’re talking high draw mains voltage here - are the cables BS (British Standard not bu****it!)

No ideas for a name

2,198 posts

87 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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SpyderMatt said:
Scrump said:
A 3 pin socket can be added to the Rolec chargers.
Some info here (just the first hit I found when googling to make sure my memory was not deceiving me): https://www.speakev.com/threads/rolec-wallpod-addi...
Well I can’t find one anywhere that’s available. I’m stunned this is so difficult and can’t believe they’re making wallpods with no 3 pin socket for trickle chargers, jet washers, lawnmowers etc.
You may be able to strip this for bits... depends what it goes for in the end of course.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325395396601



No ideas for a name

2,198 posts

87 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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SpyderMatt said:
rlengthorn said:
This is what you want: https://evbitz.uk/T2___UK_13A.html

We have one, and its quite useful as a way of getting an outdoor socket at the front of the house.
Thanks, that is what I want if I can’t add a 3 pin to the pod.
But the website is very amateur and I note they are not VAT registered which is v.strange. We’re talking high draw mains voltage here - are the cables BS (British Standard not bu****it!)
I don't like that at all.
I guess it has a fixed resistor to cheat the EVSE in to thinking it is in the charging state (State C). Is that really a problem - maybe not but it does leave the outlet live when there may not be an EV plugged in (based on reading rather than actual test of a sample device).

It also appears have a fixed programming resistor, telling the EVSE that the cable is good for 20A. I understand that if you plug a 13A plug in, then that can't draw more than 13A, and if you plug a 16A CEE plug in, then that shouldn't pull more than 16A. Not good design though.

Also it takes no account of the PWM signal that is output by the EVSE... all theoretical of course, but some EVSE may decide that they need to lower the charge current and that information won't reach the EV.

It appears to deliberately break/circumvent the SAE J1772 standard.


MrBig

2,708 posts

130 months

Friday 28th October 2022
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Not to mention the fact that it's about the same price as paying a sparky to just come and fit an exterior 3 pin twin socket on the outside of your house!

Evanivitch

20,136 posts

123 months

Friday 28th October 2022
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MrBig said:
Not to mention the fact that it's about the same price as paying a sparky to just come and fit an exterior 3 pin twin socket on the outside of your house!
Just do this, honestly, it'll make your life easier. There is no standard for a Type 2 power into 3-pin output adaptor, so anything will be a bodge.

An electrician should be reluctant to spur off the Type 2 circuit, so hopefully your consumer unit is available or they can spur off an internal socket through the wall.

ecs

1,229 posts

171 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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It wouldn't work - you need to establish comms between the car and the charger before anything will happen. I used to work a Pod Point and the product development guys had some type 2 to 3 pin contraptions for lab testing the chargers, they had electronics in them to mock out the comms.

Just remove the Rolec and replace it with an outdoor socket.