Superleggera LP 570-4 Register
Discussion
There is a separate 2008 Superleggera (Gen 1) Register so perhaps it's time for a Superleggera 570-4 Register.
This comes to mind from another recent discussion topic copied below which is worth separating out as the 570-4s are clearly low in number and often overlooked:
Brilliant car, love mine, I was told recently be a fellow owner that currently only 14 on the road in the UK.Possibly your friend Sunny is quoting the numbers from 'How many left'. Looking today the licensed registrations for Superleggera 570-4s first started in 2010 Q3 – 2 and Q4 – 3. That seems about right, the first deliveries are believed to have been about June 2010. There are 0 entries for the 2007, 2008 and 2009 years so there is no confusion with the Gen 1 Superleggeras.
The most current information is up to 2022 Q4. For 2022 the highest number is in Q2 with 9 licensed and 5 SORN, so 14 total.
For 2021 the highest number is in Q2 and Q3 with 10 licensed and 5 SORN, so 15.
The figures do vary up and down, the absolute highest being in 2019 Q1 with 9 licensed and 7 SORN, so 16 total and again in 2018 Q1 with 13 licensed and 3 SORN, so 16 total again. Possibly these figures are best treated as indicative.
Lets see how many we can find ourselves. There is no separate classification for Superleggera 570-4 Edizione Tecnicas, so it’s assumed that these are all grouped together. Possibly some of the original UK Edizione Tecnicas may have been exported, I don’t think the 2 orange and the white one have been seen advertised for several years.
So any current or previous owners, please post your pictures and any other comments, ideally giving:
the exact first registration date because many are or have been on private plates;
whether the car has the optional ‘full’ interior carbon fibre trim to lower part of steering wheel, main dash board dial surround, 3 central dials surround, hand brake lever handle, door pull lever handles, full central transmission tunnel, or ‘standard’ (not carbon fibre);
whether there is engine compartment carbon fibre (this usually comes with the optional full interior trim);
whether there is the LED engine compartment and interior lighting package;
whether the car has carbon ceramic or steel discs;
what colour the brake calipers are.
The above information should be sufficient to separate any of the same colours registered in the same month and year.
This comes to mind from another recent discussion topic copied below which is worth separating out as the 570-4s are clearly low in number and often overlooked:
sunnym3 said:
Julian Thompson said:
Hi David, I slightly prefer the look of the Gallardo to the Huracan and liked the idea of a more limited ultimate version. I went to see the green car right after viewing a fairly well used R8 and just fell in love with it. It wasn’t really a super carefully researched purchase if I’m honest! But I’m very much looking forward to getting it next week.
Congratulations Julian,Brilliant car, love mine, I was told recently be a fellow owner that currently only 14 on the road in the UK.
The most current information is up to 2022 Q4. For 2022 the highest number is in Q2 with 9 licensed and 5 SORN, so 14 total.
For 2021 the highest number is in Q2 and Q3 with 10 licensed and 5 SORN, so 15.
The figures do vary up and down, the absolute highest being in 2019 Q1 with 9 licensed and 7 SORN, so 16 total and again in 2018 Q1 with 13 licensed and 3 SORN, so 16 total again. Possibly these figures are best treated as indicative.
Lets see how many we can find ourselves. There is no separate classification for Superleggera 570-4 Edizione Tecnicas, so it’s assumed that these are all grouped together. Possibly some of the original UK Edizione Tecnicas may have been exported, I don’t think the 2 orange and the white one have been seen advertised for several years.
So any current or previous owners, please post your pictures and any other comments, ideally giving:
the exact first registration date because many are or have been on private plates;
whether the car has the optional ‘full’ interior carbon fibre trim to lower part of steering wheel, main dash board dial surround, 3 central dials surround, hand brake lever handle, door pull lever handles, full central transmission tunnel, or ‘standard’ (not carbon fibre);
whether there is engine compartment carbon fibre (this usually comes with the optional full interior trim);
whether there is the LED engine compartment and interior lighting package;
whether the car has carbon ceramic or steel discs;
what colour the brake calipers are.
The above information should be sufficient to separate any of the same colours registered in the same month and year.
Edited by David_T on Monday 10th July 22:10
Edited by David_T on Friday 21st July 18:48
The Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera was announced in March 2010. Road tests first appeared in late March and early April 2010. The first UK deliveries are believed to have been in June 2010. The last Gallardo rolled off the production line on 25th November 2013.
The standard body colours were:
Verde Ithaca;
Giallo Midas;
Bianco Monocerus;
Arancio Borealis;
Grigio Telesto;
Nero Noctis
The Edizione Tecnica colours were:
Arancio Argos (orange) body with Nero Nemesis pillars and front air intakes;
Nero Nemesis (matt black) body with Arancio Argos pillars and front air intakes,
Bianco Canopus (matt white) body with Arancio Argos pillars and front air intakes
The UK cars were registered between 2012 – 2014.
The standard body colours were:
Verde Ithaca;
Giallo Midas;
Bianco Monocerus;
Arancio Borealis;
Grigio Telesto;
Nero Noctis
The Edizione Tecnica colours were:
Arancio Argos (orange) body with Nero Nemesis pillars and front air intakes;
Nero Nemesis (matt black) body with Arancio Argos pillars and front air intakes,
Bianco Canopus (matt white) body with Arancio Argos pillars and front air intakes
The UK cars were registered between 2012 – 2014.
196 cars listed here ..
https://www.lp112.com/Lamborghini/Results.asp?Mode...
And there’s the STS and SQ, plus the Performante’s to consider too :-)
https://www.lp112.com/Lamborghini/Results.asp?Mode...
And there’s the STS and SQ, plus the Performante’s to consider too :-)
Davo456gt said:
196 cars listed here ..
https://www.lp112.com/Lamborghini/Results.asp?Mode...
Thanks for the link David. Of the 196 cars listed, at a quick glance only 5 are (or were at one stage) UK cars.https://www.lp112.com/Lamborghini/Results.asp?Mode...
As that register gives a more complete listing, the intention here is really to get a better idea of how many SL 570-4 cars there are in the UK.
'How many left' suggests 14 for 2022 with 16 back in 2019.
At this point the intention is just to focus on the Superleggera 570-4, so not the STS or Performantes or other limited editions as part of this topic. Probably it will depend on how forthcoming present and previous owners are in submitting information.
Capturing some information about 5 cars currently advertised in the UK:
White: First registered 25/03/2011. Full interior carbon fibre trim but none to the engine compartment, Carbon ceramic discs, yellow calipers.
White: First registered 12?/06/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Grey: First registered 17/07/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, red calipers.
Black: First registered 06/07/2011. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Black: First registered 01/05/2013. Full carbon fibre interior trim, carbon ceramic discs, red calipers.
White: First registered 25/03/2011. Full interior carbon fibre trim but none to the engine compartment, Carbon ceramic discs, yellow calipers.
White: First registered 12?/06/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Grey: First registered 17/07/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, red calipers.
Black: First registered 06/07/2011. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Black: First registered 01/05/2013. Full carbon fibre interior trim, carbon ceramic discs, red calipers.
Edited by David_T on Thursday 22 February 19:42
Also advertised, probably one more but may be one less:
Yellow: First registered: 01/09/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers, 3,500 miles.
Imported by HK Supercar Imports about 2022? Presumably this is an additional car to the original UK cars
Black Edizione Tecnica: First registered: 08/07/2013. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, carbon ceramic discs, orange calipers.
This one has been advertised at Motorhub for several years. LJ13 AUU can still be found on an MOT search but has no MOT history! If the car had been re-registered on a private plate, then a ‘There is a problem’ type message would appear.
Does this mean that Motorhub still has the car, or may be it was exported years ago?
Does anyone know?
Yellow: First registered: 01/09/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers, 3,500 miles.
Imported by HK Supercar Imports about 2022? Presumably this is an additional car to the original UK cars
Black Edizione Tecnica: First registered: 08/07/2013. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, carbon ceramic discs, orange calipers.
This one has been advertised at Motorhub for several years. LJ13 AUU can still be found on an MOT search but has no MOT history! If the car had been re-registered on a private plate, then a ‘There is a problem’ type message would appear.
Does this mean that Motorhub still has the car, or may be it was exported years ago?
Does anyone know?
Black Edizione Tecnica: First registered: 08/07/2013. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, carbon ceramic discs, orange calipers.
This one has been advertised at Motorhub for several years. LJ13 AUU can still be found on an MOT search but has no MOT history! If the car had been re-registered on a private plate, then a ‘There is a problem’ type message would appear.
Does this mean that Motorhub still has the car, or may be it was exported years ago?
Does anyone know?
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They still have the car, apparently its "part of their collection" and was last serviced in 2020.
Argh, that's helpful to know, thanks. If the car was privately owned it would have to be taxed or SORN. As it's held within the motor trade in this case it shows as 'Untaxed', tax due on 20/07/2016.
I wonder if 'How many left' includes untaxed cars within the SORN category, or if it is strictly those recorded as SORN.
I wonder if 'How many left' includes untaxed cars within the SORN category, or if it is strictly those recorded as SORN.
David_T said:
Capturing some information about 5 cars currently advertised in the UK:
White: First registered 25/03/2011. Full interior carbon fibre trim but none to the engine compartment, Carbon ceramic discs, yellow calipers.
White: First registered 12?/06/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Grey: First registered 17/07/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, red calipers.
Black: First registered 06/11/2011. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Black: First registered 01/05/2013. Full carbon fibre interior trim, carbon ceramic discs, red calipers.
I hadn't realised my one was forsale!!! I took it off sale year ago I thought. It's not on GVE's website.White: First registered 25/03/2011. Full interior carbon fibre trim but none to the engine compartment, Carbon ceramic discs, yellow calipers.
White: First registered 12?/06/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Grey: First registered 17/07/2012. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, red calipers.
Black: First registered 06/11/2011. Standard interior carbon fibre trim, steel discs, black calipers.
Black: First registered 01/05/2013. Full carbon fibre interior trim, carbon ceramic discs, red calipers.
Oh! It's still advertised today on Car&classic.com, posted on 25th June.
If it's no longer for sale perhaps you might want to chase them up or GVE, or both.
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1579971
If it's no longer for sale perhaps you might want to chase them up or GVE, or both.
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1579971
Just got mine. It’s flipping brilliant.
Has the full carbon interior, black calipers, steel brakes, illuminated carbon engine bay panels etc, chassis 11138 in Verdi with the black alcantara and green stitch. Seems to have tonnes of other carbon but I’m not sure what is standard and what isn’t. Registered 9/6/11.
Seriously pleased with it, what an amazing car!
Got to also say that the service I got from Tom Hartley Jnr was totally fantastic. We did the deal, everything was perfect and then they put new tyres on the car for me without me even asking or contributing as they felt the old ones were out of date and so not up to their standard. Easily the best experience I’ve ever had buying any car, new or old.
only slight thing is it’s a 2000 mile car and is totally and utterly perfect - I’m a bit scared to even sit in it never mind drive it
Has the full carbon interior, black calipers, steel brakes, illuminated carbon engine bay panels etc, chassis 11138 in Verdi with the black alcantara and green stitch. Seems to have tonnes of other carbon but I’m not sure what is standard and what isn’t. Registered 9/6/11.
Seriously pleased with it, what an amazing car!
Got to also say that the service I got from Tom Hartley Jnr was totally fantastic. We did the deal, everything was perfect and then they put new tyres on the car for me without me even asking or contributing as they felt the old ones were out of date and so not up to their standard. Easily the best experience I’ve ever had buying any car, new or old.
only slight thing is it’s a 2000 mile car and is totally and utterly perfect - I’m a bit scared to even sit in it never mind drive it
Edited by Julian Thompson on Monday 24th July 22:38
Congratulations on finally getting delivery Julian. What a great spec and condition car.
If the tyres were the original ones as the car has only done about 2,000 miles then they would have hardened up after 12 years. Possibly even some perish crack lines if the car has sat in the same position for long periods. So great to start off with new tyres all round.
It looks like the neighbours will know each time you start it up.
Enjoy, gets some miles on the clock. Let us know how you get on.
If the tyres were the original ones as the car has only done about 2,000 miles then they would have hardened up after 12 years. Possibly even some perish crack lines if the car has sat in the same position for long periods. So great to start off with new tyres all round.
It looks like the neighbours will know each time you start it up.
Enjoy, gets some miles on the clock. Let us know how you get on.
David_T said:
Congratulations on finally getting delivery Julian. What a great spec and condition car.
If the tyres were the original ones as the car has only done about 2,000 miles then they would have hardened up after 12 years. Possibly even some perish crack lines if the car has sat in the same position for long periods. So great to start off with new tyres all round.
It looks like the neighbours will know each time you start it up.
Enjoy, gets some miles on the clock. Let us know how you get on.
Good afternoon all! The weather has been awful hasn’t it? Well I’m finally planning a drive in this car tomorrow morning so I’ve just been to it and started it up only to get an “E-gear” warning light. It changes into gear and goes forwards and backwards. Previously, I have only driven it about five miles when they dropped it off just to have a quick try and the warning light wasn’t there.If the tyres were the original ones as the car has only done about 2,000 miles then they would have hardened up after 12 years. Possibly even some perish crack lines if the car has sat in the same position for long periods. So great to start off with new tyres all round.
It looks like the neighbours will know each time you start it up.
Enjoy, gets some miles on the clock. Let us know how you get on.
Any tips/thoughts or is it abandon my drive and call Lamborghini on Monday?
Well I thought I’d update this thread as it seems a bit dead! I learned that the battery on my car is the original one, and if the car is left stood off the charger for anything more than a few days the gearbox warning pops up. Once you drive the car for exactly 30 minutes it clears. If the car is left on the charger, you never get a warning. I’ll replace the battery at some point.
I’ve done 500 miles in the Superleggera now and these are my thoughts. I would be interested to hear opinions about what I’ve written from other owners. The engine is of course incredible, but I think we all know that already so I’m not going to dwell on it.
What’s really worth talking about is the gearbox , which is absolutely excellent. It’s the closest in feel to a proper hydraulic racing car box that I’ve ever used, which just adds to the drama of the car. Shifts are extremely fast, downshifts sound brilliant and low speed handling is acceptable but of course I’m aware of the clutch wear when manoeuvring so I try to keep that to a minimum. The character of the gearbox suits the character of the car perfectly and I don’t wish the car was a manual, or a DCT.
The next thing worth talking about is the steering - with it being 4wd I was expecting it to be pretty dead at the front but in reality it’s alive and up on its toes. The way the car turns in feels laser guided. I’ve also found that 4wd has allowed me to enjoy the engine on a few occasions that I wouldn’t have been able to otherwise on roads with slightly damp surfaces, coming out of turns you can of course begin to wind power in more enthusiastically than you would in the 2wd version. If you’re arriving into a very tight corner in wet conditions there is a point during the turn it that unloads the front of the car pretty quickly. I suspect it is the caster biting in and taking the tyres up out of the traction circle in a non-linear way. You wouldn’t notice it but because of the confidence afforded by every other aspect of the chassis and drive line you can arrive at said hairpin a little hot sometimes and begin to feel it push. It’s called going too fast for the conditions - we just expect miracles from those black circles!
Finally, whilst I’m eulogising I find the interior to be extremely special - so much gloss carbon and alcantara and it’s the first time I’ve ever had any carbon on a steering wheel - I didn’t think I’d care for that but actually it is very tactile. The seats are very comfortable. I must get some new floor mats though to protect the original carpets and I might see about some PPF on the carbon centre console as the car is going in to have that fitted to the windscreen, the rear engine cover and a few bits of the existing PPF improved.
There have to be some downsides right? So, firstly, the ride is fine as long as the roads don’t have bits missing. It’s stiff - almost race car stiff - but because it’s built really well nothing inside rattles and that makes a big difference to how you perceive the ride. However, on roads with potholes it’s a no-go - the suspension travel is short and even modest holes in the road transmit right through the chassis and put you right off. I’m sure the car would be fine, but as the owner of the car I just back right off and trundle along a bit grumpily! So this means really that it’s not suited to many U.K. B roads, without local knowledge prior or unless you’re driving someone else’s Superleggera! I think that for UK use the ultimate would be to look at some longer travel dampers and raise the ride height a little, but then you’re actually changing the character of the car and in my experience it can be the limitations and outright flaws of a car that makes it into a more fascinating thing to own as the years tick by.
Although the brakes are excellent, there is a slight dead zone at the top of their travel which puts the pedal just a fraction lower than I would love - I’ll caveat this by saying that I drive this car with both feet, like I do my Radical race car, and so maybe there is some muscle memory making comparison since this is the only road car I drive like that. I never really trust main dealer service unless I know the people, so it could be that the previous “brake fluid change” was just a squirt and topup. I’ll take a look at that perhaps over the winter.
Other disappointments are few. The row of chrome switches under the radio look great - until you touch them and find out they are extremely flimsy plastic. I noted some guy on the internet made a set of metal ones which I think would be a big improvement. It wouldn’t matter but these are actually the window switches so they’re often used. Also the exhaust note with the valves closed which at idle is literally a whisper, although of course that translates into very quiet progress on the motorway etc. so I’m not rushing to change it at this stage. I did wonder if a switch could be fitted to allow manual control of the exhaust, besides the impact the “corsa” mode has.
In short I’m absolutely loving the car - it looks fantastic, sounds fantastic, is special, rare and exotic and yet it’s small and nimble enough to actually use a bit and push at least a bit on the road. I have no plans to take the car on the circuit but I would like to venture into Europe in it at some point. Since I’m from the North West I’ve been looking with interest at the Hull ferry, which would get me there with less of our crazy UK traffic. Maybe next year.
I’ve done 500 miles in the Superleggera now and these are my thoughts. I would be interested to hear opinions about what I’ve written from other owners. The engine is of course incredible, but I think we all know that already so I’m not going to dwell on it.
What’s really worth talking about is the gearbox , which is absolutely excellent. It’s the closest in feel to a proper hydraulic racing car box that I’ve ever used, which just adds to the drama of the car. Shifts are extremely fast, downshifts sound brilliant and low speed handling is acceptable but of course I’m aware of the clutch wear when manoeuvring so I try to keep that to a minimum. The character of the gearbox suits the character of the car perfectly and I don’t wish the car was a manual, or a DCT.
The next thing worth talking about is the steering - with it being 4wd I was expecting it to be pretty dead at the front but in reality it’s alive and up on its toes. The way the car turns in feels laser guided. I’ve also found that 4wd has allowed me to enjoy the engine on a few occasions that I wouldn’t have been able to otherwise on roads with slightly damp surfaces, coming out of turns you can of course begin to wind power in more enthusiastically than you would in the 2wd version. If you’re arriving into a very tight corner in wet conditions there is a point during the turn it that unloads the front of the car pretty quickly. I suspect it is the caster biting in and taking the tyres up out of the traction circle in a non-linear way. You wouldn’t notice it but because of the confidence afforded by every other aspect of the chassis and drive line you can arrive at said hairpin a little hot sometimes and begin to feel it push. It’s called going too fast for the conditions - we just expect miracles from those black circles!
Finally, whilst I’m eulogising I find the interior to be extremely special - so much gloss carbon and alcantara and it’s the first time I’ve ever had any carbon on a steering wheel - I didn’t think I’d care for that but actually it is very tactile. The seats are very comfortable. I must get some new floor mats though to protect the original carpets and I might see about some PPF on the carbon centre console as the car is going in to have that fitted to the windscreen, the rear engine cover and a few bits of the existing PPF improved.
There have to be some downsides right? So, firstly, the ride is fine as long as the roads don’t have bits missing. It’s stiff - almost race car stiff - but because it’s built really well nothing inside rattles and that makes a big difference to how you perceive the ride. However, on roads with potholes it’s a no-go - the suspension travel is short and even modest holes in the road transmit right through the chassis and put you right off. I’m sure the car would be fine, but as the owner of the car I just back right off and trundle along a bit grumpily! So this means really that it’s not suited to many U.K. B roads, without local knowledge prior or unless you’re driving someone else’s Superleggera! I think that for UK use the ultimate would be to look at some longer travel dampers and raise the ride height a little, but then you’re actually changing the character of the car and in my experience it can be the limitations and outright flaws of a car that makes it into a more fascinating thing to own as the years tick by.
Although the brakes are excellent, there is a slight dead zone at the top of their travel which puts the pedal just a fraction lower than I would love - I’ll caveat this by saying that I drive this car with both feet, like I do my Radical race car, and so maybe there is some muscle memory making comparison since this is the only road car I drive like that. I never really trust main dealer service unless I know the people, so it could be that the previous “brake fluid change” was just a squirt and topup. I’ll take a look at that perhaps over the winter.
Other disappointments are few. The row of chrome switches under the radio look great - until you touch them and find out they are extremely flimsy plastic. I noted some guy on the internet made a set of metal ones which I think would be a big improvement. It wouldn’t matter but these are actually the window switches so they’re often used. Also the exhaust note with the valves closed which at idle is literally a whisper, although of course that translates into very quiet progress on the motorway etc. so I’m not rushing to change it at this stage. I did wonder if a switch could be fitted to allow manual control of the exhaust, besides the impact the “corsa” mode has.
In short I’m absolutely loving the car - it looks fantastic, sounds fantastic, is special, rare and exotic and yet it’s small and nimble enough to actually use a bit and push at least a bit on the road. I have no plans to take the car on the circuit but I would like to venture into Europe in it at some point. Since I’m from the North West I’ve been looking with interest at the Hull ferry, which would get me there with less of our crazy UK traffic. Maybe next year.
I’ve also had PPF applied to the windscreen and rear Perspex deck, just in case.
Big thanks to Dom at spotless detailing in Manchester for a great job on that - the optics of the front screen are not perfect but it’s ok and just adds an extra layer of insurance against those tiny chips.
Big thanks to Dom at spotless detailing in Manchester for a great job on that - the optics of the front screen are not perfect but it’s ok and just adds an extra layer of insurance against those tiny chips.
The car is looking as clean on the underside as it is spotless as seen from the normal viewpoimts when on the ground.
Having access to a ramp certainly gives you the opportunity to have a thorough look around underneath and to see if there's anything looking like it needs some attention.
Having access to a ramp certainly gives you the opportunity to have a thorough look around underneath and to see if there's anything looking like it needs some attention.
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