EA WRC - New Dirt Rally Game

EA WRC - New Dirt Rally Game

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craste

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1,222 posts

208 months

Thursday 7th September 2023
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Whats people thoughts on this?

I do love a good rally game so will preorder!

PC or PS5 though? I do have a PSVR2 so I might get the PS5 version as I bet the VR patch will come out down the line.

https://www.ea.com/games/ea-sports-wrc/wrc


mattstr675

98 posts

41 months

Thursday 7th September 2023
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May well be interested in this.

Quite regularly pick up Dirt 2 or Wrc 10 for a blast and have recently purchased the Sparco/ Thrustmaster R383 wheel and handbrake setup so this will go well with that.

Will be checking out the reviews when released.

BobToc

1,780 posts

118 months

Thursday 7th September 2023
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Will never pre-order out of principle, there’s almost no upsides and all downsides. Looking forward to seeing what this one is like though.

molineux1980

1,203 posts

220 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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I do have this on pre-order.

I like Dirt, and I like the WRC games.

What i'd really love is the Dirt handling model, car selection, graphics and sound, with the WRC franchise career and stage design.

Looking forward to seeing what this brings.

TO73074E

422 posts

28 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Looking forward to it, it sounds promising. From what I've read so far it sounds like the handling model from Dirt 2.0 will be brought over with some tweaks here and there. They've moved to using the Unreal engine for this game so it means they can now develop longer stages than before.

CKY

1,429 posts

16 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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TO73074E said:
Looking forward to it, it sounds promising. From what I've read so far it sounds like the handling model from Dirt 2.0 will be brought over with some tweaks here and there.
This is good to hear, been burnt a couple of times previously buying WRC titles and finding them to be glorified arcade racers, having more in common with Sega Rally than the Dirt Rally franchise.

flatlandsman

764 posts

8 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Is this not the first title after the Codies buyout so it could be a sort of Dirt Rally 3 with the franchise now onboard?

Now DR2.0 was very good in place but also very annoying!! Lots of fake difficulty in there, totally unnecessary really.

8bit

4,883 posts

156 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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I quite enjoyed the WRC series the past few years from whoever developed/published it previously - no not top-level, high-fidelity simulation stuff but it was at least fun IMHO. Hopefully EA don't stuff it full of microtransactions and other st like that. I'll wait and see the reviews before committing any hard-earned to it though.

flatlandsman

764 posts

8 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Indeed DR2.0 was a DLC nightmare, half if it was tidied up DR1 content. It is the same people so I would not expect too much. But you are right the later WRC games were fine, once they dropped that awful Italian company who made them up to then.

bloomen

6,938 posts

160 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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flatlandsman said:
It is the same people so I would not expect too much.
It's not. It's now owned by EA who'll be a whole lot worse.

My main gripe with Dirt 2 was every piddling update required another 15 gig download which is several hours for me. The day they abandoned updates was a happy one.

I'll wait to see with this one how much extra content they try to draw out. And it had better not be online only, but it will be.




Speckle

3,454 posts

217 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Lots of footage circulating youtube at the moment as EA sent out pre-release copies to a number of sim racing/gaming content creators.

Feedback so far, having watched quite a few of them, is overwhelmingly positive. More than one have referred to it as what Dirt Rally 3.0 would be if it had the WRC license.

This suggests the handling will be an improved version of the DR 2 model, which I really enjoyed. Tarmac is also apparently much improved (it needed to be!). I never really got on with the handling in the WRC games and couldn't quite nail the forcefeedback settings. DR2.0 by comparison felt way better, which led me to sink many hundreds of hours into it.

I'm excited for this, will probably pre-order (and then no doubt live to regret it hehe)

TO73074E

422 posts

28 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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The footage from Youtube and reviews look really positive, although all are pre-release builds and PC footage it looks really promising.

They've absolutely nailed the sound of the cars, as they did in Dirt Rally 2.0 and people reviewing it say the physics are great. One reviewer say it isn't a full on sim representation but it's fun to drive which is what I was hoping for. It does look like EA have just provided the WRC licence to Codemasters and let them get their hands dirty with it which is great news.

TGCOTF-dewey

5,249 posts

56 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I think it looks great... and the reviews suggest the tarmac physics model is a huge leap from DR2.

The drive by cams show a car that looks less floaty too.

Can't wait. Forza was a huge disappointment.

8bit

4,883 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Does look impressive from the quick look I've just had. Still not going to preorder, I'll wait for the reviews. Besides handling the pacenote system has to be good and there has to be plenty of variety in the stages - the last couple of WRC games had one or two sections of about 20km per rally and all the stages were just different subsections of that in either direction, different weather and/or night time so longer rallies felt a bit dull and repetitive.

PaulWoof

1,612 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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To me the physics looks naff and the same centre point pivot as DR2 which was terrible. Then the stages themselves seem to have the same "manufactured" barriers to the side such as raised edges etc to keep you on the road and surfaces seem unnaturally smooth. Visually they look fine but dont seem to have any physical effect

the collisions look toned right down. I saw one video of someone using the gran turismo strat of riding a big rock face around the edge of a corner which even took a door off but barely affected speed.

The original dirt rally was awesome and finishing a stage felt a big accomplishment. this looks too arcadey for me.

mattstr675

98 posts

41 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Seen all the promo guff. Still interested in it.

More so as I've just ordered a Gt Prime Lite sim rig as an upgrade from my Playseat.

Beethree

811 posts

90 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Looks excellent. I might have to actually upgrade my Xbox for this.
I hope the stages aren’t as deliberately punishing as Dirt 2.0 (rocks on the outside of a blind corner with a badly called pacenote)

Brainpox

4,057 posts

152 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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None of the previews I’ve seen have talked about how it is on controller. It looks and sounds fantastic but I’m curious how punishing it is without a wheel. Are there any YTers who have tried it?

flatlandsman

764 posts

8 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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To me it looks like what you might expect, Codies cars and physics matched to a more modern type game, design and usual EA type interfaces. I expect now it is done it will be a yearly upgrade for the same money each year, basically a giant patch with liveries and changes but the same basic cars and physics. A huge amount of cars are old, not sure on stages but I expect so as they will have had to write a lot of new stuff. Never played the recent WRC games so not sure what would be carried over other than licences.

Dr 2.0 was a great game of potential utterly ruined by greed from Codies with its woeful DLC package release and asking players to pay real money for basically old DR cars and stages etc, was a very dumb thing to do to a very small audience. And the desire to make an almost ridiculously difficult game I always called it the Dark Souls sim, so much of what could damage your car was utterly fake and never likely to be seen on any real stage, stages lined with rocks, finish boards made of steel girders, awful wet tyre grip, ridiculous stage finish areas designed to kill you after you put in 5 minutes of really accurate stuff, it was just devs trying to make a game that was already hard overly difficult with fakery. Some fabulous stuff in there and the stages really were a revolution over most rally games.

But they went too far with the fake difficulty for me. And i imagine this will be the same as it is likely to be the Codies folk that have put it together.

navmangt

57 posts

119 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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It does look like an improvement on DR2.0 but agreed on the previous posts of the physics looking like an updated version of DR2.0.

Here's an interesting look a the physics based on the pre release vids:
https://youtu.be/5nNQlNGksIw?si=xKRSkIAdX5vx8FWZ