RE: Fabled TVR T440R for sale

RE: Fabled TVR T440R for sale

Friday 10th November 2023

Fabled TVR T440R for sale

Blackpool bruisers come no more special than this - time to grab a hunk of TVR history


The history of the Ottoman Empire has nothing on the recent past of TVR. There’s sufficient scandal, mystery, mistaken identity and shady deals to fill the most comprehensive of multi-part docuseries. The chaos is part of the charm, of course - especially with a future that doesn’t look very bright at all - but it doesn’t half make writing about certain TVRs very difficult.

The T440R is a perfect example. Back in the late 1990s, Peter Wheeler wanted to take TVR into GT1 racing and back to Le Mans - this very car is the one presented to the FIA and homologated as the road-going example of what would be taken to the grid. There had been a Tuscan R concept that signaled the intent, the name under which the production car was going to be sold - see the brochure picture below, with this car, for proof. It was only later on (and thanks to additional FIA requirements) that T440R and T400R were introduced. 

Following this car in 2002 (reg PN02 ZNG, once badged a T400R) came another in 2003 (PL03 BXY, always T440R), and eventually three T440s were made. A Typhon promised even more craziness and power, which is when the ZNG car was rebadged to become the first T440, but issues during development meant just three were made and weren’t quite as exotic (i.e. as sequential and as supercharged) as first forecast. Even by TVR standards, it was a mad time. That probably covers enough of the history before getting buried by it; though old, this thread provides some interesting history and detail on all of them. 

That this car is PN02 ZNG is exciting enough, because the T440R recipe promised so much. All these models were far more than just slightly upgraded Tuscans. They were built using more carbon and new technology in the construction process (including an aluminium honeycomb flat floor), and were lighter and stiffer as well as more powerful. The Typhon was going to be supercharged and have nearly 600hp, although no forced induction cars made it to customers. As for the naturally aspirated ones, the Speed Six was upped to 4.4 litres and 440hp, hence the name. More than enough with a kerbweight of around 1,100kg. 

This one is doubly exciting, however, fresh from a recent (and exhaustive) restoration. Once upon a time ZNG was used as a promotional car for the motorsport effort, decked out in the Dewalt livery like one of the racers. Having been bought from the factory by Racing Green TVR, this T440 only went to its first private owner in 2008. Now it presents probably better than it ever has thanks to the efforts of specialists like TVR 101 and TVR Power. 

It would probably be easier to list what hasn’t been brought back to its best rather than the other way around. The straight six has been rebuilt, 4.4-litres now pumping out 420hp and 383lb ft; a new close-ratio manual gets that power to the ground. The diff, springs, dampers and exhaust are all freshly installed as well. It’s a reassembly as much as a recommission; the two-seat interior, complete with carbon construction on show, is fantastic, and the Candy Apple Ruby Pearl paint appears to be absolutely perfect. There’s not a blemish anywhere. 

The 20-odd year history of the T440R is enough to make your head spin, but there can surely be no doubting how well the potential has been realised here. What might have been, eh? Or what can still be, at least for this one. ZNG is essentially now a brand new TVR T440R, complete with extensive records of its restoration and a history file that includes homologation papers and original brochures from when it was new to the range. If that can’t excite the denizens of PH, then nothing ever will.  

If it goes even half as well as it looks, somebody is in for an incredible driving experience. Indeed even if it merely looks as good in reality as it does here, it’ll be an awesome thing just to keep and admire. Whatever the next owner does with the T440R, it’s wonderful to see a big part of TVR’s history in such fine fettle. The price is lotto win territory, yes, but as the ultimate representation of the Speed Six era - and of Peter Wheeler’s vision for the brand - the first T440R could never rank with the rest. And as the advert states, this is still rather less than the Speed 12 sold for…


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M3_Simon_Fr

Original Poster:

49 posts

85 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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How much??

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,274 posts

236 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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M3_Simon_Fr said:
How much??
I think somebody has added at least one extra zero hehe

aestivator

241 posts

31 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Well, having a giggle at that price has set me up for the weekend...

Mr-B

3,791 posts

195 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Crazy price but then again with that history behind it there is nothing to directly compare it with so name your price.

Love these designs form this era, more than 20 years old but still looks like it's from the future.

Hilts

4,393 posts

283 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Wow, simply awesome automobile.

To me, worth every penny of the asking price.


TheRainMaker

6,371 posts

243 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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1/4 of a million and rusty bolts holding the steering wheel on hehe

Bob_Defly

3,730 posts

232 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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A gorgeous car, and a piece of British motoring history. Well worth the price IMHO.

Bencolem

1,027 posts

240 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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I know I’ll get shot for this but it looks all shades of wrong from that side on angle…

VR6 Eug

642 posts

200 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Full engine build and yet lost 20hp!

Nomme de Plum

4,698 posts

17 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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That's TVR for you.

Don't assume it ever developed 440bhp in the first place. TVR were not overly accurate when it came to stated power outputs. I say this as a once owner of a Cerbera 4.5

The speed 6 engine developed all sorts of issues when Wheeler decided to modify Al Melling's original design.

Edited by Nomme de Plum on Friday 10th November 18:52

Master Of Puppets

3,289 posts

63 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Bencolem said:
I know I’ll get shot for this but it looks all shades of wrong from that side on angle…
Absolutely, couldn't agree more.

bern

1,263 posts

221 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Bencolem said:
I know I’ll get shot for this but it looks all shades of wrong from that side on angle…
Agreed. That front 3/4 shot makes it look hilariously bad! £240k!!!!

BananaFama

4,404 posts

80 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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That's a lot of money ,so it's rare ,1 of very few ,it's still a lot of money .

Glad I saw the Dewalt cars at LM24 in 2005 .smile

EggsBenedict

1,772 posts

175 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Bencolem said:
I know I’ll get shot for this but it looks all shades of wrong from that side on angle…
Not by me. It looks like it's been sort of crushed in the middle somehow.

Those moaning about the price - there's only 3 of these around. Although there's lots I'd have for 240K before this, I don't think it's unreasonable given the rarity. The person who buys it won't be driving it much I don't imagine.

While I'm on I'll shove in the usual lament on TVR's predicament. At least Ineos actually produced a car you could buy....

cerb4.5lee

30,936 posts

181 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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TheRainMaker said:
1/4 of a million and rusty bolts holding the steering wheel on hehe
hehe

I love TVRs don't get me wrong, but if you're going to charge that much for it, you need to make sure that the attention to detail bits are all sorted as you say I reckon. thumbup

cerb4.5lee

30,936 posts

181 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Nomme de Plum said:
That's TVR for you.

Don't assume it ever developed 440bhp in the first place. TVR were not overly accurate when it came to sated power outputs. I say this as a once owner of a Cerbera 4.5
Agree. My Cerbera 4.5 was supposed to have 420bhp, but in reality you'd have been lucky if you got 360bhp(not that it ever felt slow though).

I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!

MDMA .

8,955 posts

102 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Looks ok for £24k.

Trebor1970

191 posts

21 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
hehe

I love TVRs don't get me wrong, but if you're going to charge that much for it, you need to make sure that the attention to detail bits are all sorted as you say I reckon. thumbup
Zoom in on the dash, there is 1 litre of fuel in it tongue out

Reminds me of the time I bought a nearly new Alfa from a well known Cheshire main dealer and the fuel guage was on the needle stop, and the nearest petrol station was a squeaky bum distance away

miniman

25,077 posts

263 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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£250 grand and rusty steering wheel screws?


AmyRichardson

1,124 posts

43 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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VR6 Eug said:
Full engine build and yet lost 20hp!
Maybe they're hp now, as opposed to "Wheeler hp" (factor - 1:whatever)