Thoughts on this 650? Can’t see ‘why not’?
Discussion
https://www.jardinemotors.co.uk/select/used-cars/1...
Done some digging. Full/comprehensive history/alcantara/carbon/lift/sports exhaust/meridian stereo plus camera etc etc
It’s had replacement radiator/hoses/suspension bits/accumulators over the past 5000 miles.
2 previous owners, both long term. The right amount of use in my eyes.
Jardine warranty covers claims upto the cars purchase price, just not wear and tear items.
They’ll inspect and service at McLaren for sale.
Looks like a ‘good’ price? Sensible, well cared for car?
Done some digging. Full/comprehensive history/alcantara/carbon/lift/sports exhaust/meridian stereo plus camera etc etc
It’s had replacement radiator/hoses/suspension bits/accumulators over the past 5000 miles.
2 previous owners, both long term. The right amount of use in my eyes.
Jardine warranty covers claims upto the cars purchase price, just not wear and tear items.
They’ll inspect and service at McLaren for sale.
Looks like a ‘good’ price? Sensible, well cared for car?
Frankychops said:
https://www.jardinemotors.co.uk/select/used-cars/1...
Done some digging. Full/comprehensive history/alcantara/carbon/lift/sports exhaust/meridian stereo plus camera etc etc
It’s had replacement radiator/hoses/suspension bits/accumulators over the past 5000 miles.
2 previous owners, both long term. The right amount of use in my eyes.
Jardine warranty covers claims upto the cars purchase price, just not wear and tear items.
They’ll inspect and service at McLaren for sale.
Looks like a ‘good’ price? Sensible, well cared for car?
Based on the above sounds great. But have you asked why Ascot are not retailing it? My experience of a couple of high end cars at Jardine Select is that they are the rejects the network won't touch. Not saying that is the case here but a Vanquish I saw awhile back was absolutely atrocious (and not much cheaper than AM would have retailed it for).Done some digging. Full/comprehensive history/alcantara/carbon/lift/sports exhaust/meridian stereo plus camera etc etc
It’s had replacement radiator/hoses/suspension bits/accumulators over the past 5000 miles.
2 previous owners, both long term. The right amount of use in my eyes.
Jardine warranty covers claims upto the cars purchase price, just not wear and tear items.
They’ll inspect and service at McLaren for sale.
Looks like a ‘good’ price? Sensible, well cared for car?
I don't see anything wrong from the ad, other than to echo the question of what it is about the car specifically which means it's not worth bringing up to approved used standard.
I'd suggest going to see the car in person and check the cosmetic condition in person, then arranging a pre purchase inspection. Bracknell is near Thatcham, so it may be convenient for V Engineering to check it over for you.
But yeah, I like the colour and spec, looks great.
cgt2 said:
Based on the above sounds great. But have you asked why Ascot are not retailing it? My experience of a couple of high end cars at Jardine Select is that they are the rejects the network won't touch. Not saying that is the case here but a Vanquish I saw awhile back was absolutely atrocious (and not much cheaper than AM would have retailed it for).
I’ve asked that with the service guys. He just said with McLaren warranty cost, plus service, it’s tight on margin(I think most large dealers at this level need to see £20k of net on a car). It’s had a warranty inspection, which they’re going to send me, they’ve no issue with an independent inspection as it has one for the warranty also.Over £5500 for 12 months McLaren extended warranty, £800 more if its lapsed,, not sure the dealers will pay this though, still it’s a good chunk of their profit margin, if retailed at McLaren the car would probably need to be more ££ although they don’t tend to sell much of the older stuff 12c, 650s, 675lt,,
Edited by Davyt on Saturday 16th March 19:42
Service info is
1st 19/08/15 @5,260 miles Ascot
2nd 29/09/16 @8,758 Ascot
3rd 19/12/17 @11,581 Ascot
4th 29/04/19 @13,534 Ascot
5th 12/06/20 @16,191 Ascot
6th 21/06/21 @18,013 Ascot
7th 09/05/22 @19,414 Ascot
8th 28/04/23 @20,741 Ascot
Warranty details below, I can extend it to 3 years for £800ish. Am I being an idot as it seems a pretty comprehensive warranty?
Parts Covered
Jardine Warranty covers almost all mechanical and electrical
parts (including labour to fit them), of the covered vehicle against
mechanical and electrical breakdown as defined below.
There is no restriction to the number of claims you can make, up to an
overall aggregate claim limit which is no more than the value of the
vehicle at the time of purchase.
Mechanical or electrical breakdown is the failure of a component,
causing a sudden stoppage of its function, for a reason other than
wear and tear, normal deterioration or negligence. Damage caused by
the effect of overheating is not regarded as a mechanical or electrical
breakdown under the terms of the warranty.
You are covered only for the parts described in this document. Your
warranty does not cover more than the manufacturer’s list price for
parts.
Repairs must not start without the prior approval of Jardine Warranty
Administration Services.
What is Covered
Your Jardine Warranty covers almost all mechanical and electrical
components on your vehicle, for mechanical and electrical breakdown,
subject to the conditions detailed in this document and the maximum
claim limit. There are some components, such as service items, which
are not covered.
What is not Covered
Whilst you have a high level of warranty cover available, there are
certain items which this warranty specifically does not cover and this
includes, but is not limited to, the following:
• Body components such as strikers, hinges or any component which
may require adjustment from time to time
• Body panels, paintwork or glass
• Interior trim, seat and seat belts
• Recharging of the air conditioning unit (unless required as part of a
valid repair)
• Renewal of brake components due to wear and tear or constant
use of the brakes
• Renewal of any clutch components due to wear, incorrect
adjustment or misuse
• The clearing of fuel lines, filters, throttle body and pumps and
damage to components due to the use of incorrect or contaminated
fuel
• Batteries, bulbs, wiper blades, wheel balancing and alignment,
wheels, tyres and water ingress (including damage to covered
parts caused by water)
• Oil leaks, lubricants, filter elements and any damage caused by
frost or lack of anti-freeze, impact, accident or negligence
Jardine Warranty
7
• Non-factory fitted radio cassette, CD player or any other in-car
entertainment component
• Normal maintenance services, and the replacement of such items
as, but not limited to, spark plugs and plug leads
• Weather strips and body seals
• Any damage or losses to components that are not directly covered
within the terms of this warranty
• Burnt out, sticking or pitted valves
• Damage resulting from the failure of a timing belt which has not
been replaced as per the manufacturer’s recommendations (proof
required).
Please note: Oil, oil filter, gaskets, anti-freeze and brake fluid required
due to the failure of a covered component are covered.
Catalytic Converter
Whilst exhaust systems are excluded, the catalytic converter is covered
as follows:
• The cost of replacement of the vehicle’s catalytic converter(s),
following failure of a test of exhaust gas to meet the relevant in-
service Exhaust Emissions Standard subject to:
1 The catalytic converter(s) being found to be no longer
serviceable.
2 The results of the failed test being made available to the
Jardine Motors Group claims department at the time repair
authorisation is requested.
3 A results print-out from a successful test, following the
replacement, is submitted to the Jardine Motors Group claims
department with the repair invoice.
• This benefit does not cover replacement if the catalytic converter(s)
failure is due to impact or other accidental damage or as a result of
contamination due to the use of incorrect fuel.
Diesel Particulate Filter
The diesel particulate filter is covered for failure providing:
1 Following illumination of the applicable dash warning light,
you drive the vehicle as specified in the manufacturer owners
handbook at the required speed and distance to try and clear the
filter.
2 If the applicable dash warning light remains illuminated, you must
have the filter regenerated by a VAT-registered dealer. Please note
this warranty does not cover the cost of the regeneration process
and you must retain the invoice as proof this process has been
followed and undertaken.
3 If this does not solve the problem then on approval, your Jardine
Warranty will cover the repair or replacement of the diesel
particulate filter.
8
Please note: We reserve the right to provide replacement parts and to
carry out repairs or to arrange for their provision by other persons.
Infotainment Systems
We cover the following factory fitted components during the period of
cover: CD player and CD autochanger, radio including DAB, DVD player
including integrated rear headrest screens, speakers, TV, telephone
and bluetooth device, USB audio interface and aux-in device, iPod
interface (or similar providing the component is factory-fitted), satellite
navigation system and traffic management, excluding discs, batteries,
remote control and electronic key-fob. We will not provide cover for
accidental damage, aerials, design faults and recalls, adjustments,
upgrades, modifications or non-factory-fitted components and we
reserve the right to provide parts or arrange for specialist repair in the
event of a failure.
9
Warranty Conditions
The conditions of this warranty are set out below. Warranty repairs will
only be carried out if you agree to these conditions. Please take time to
read them.
1 It is your responsibility to decide whether to authorise the
dismantling of your vehicle or any covered component. Jardine
Warranty Administration Services will only accept the cost of
dismantling if it is part of an authorised warranty repair.
2 Jardine Warranty Administration Services is not liable for any
statement or representation which contradicts the conditions of
this warranty unless the statement or representation is supported
in writing by Jardine Warranty Administration Services.
3 If the warranty repair is not carried out by Jardine the warranty
repair cost will not be more than the manufacturer’s list prices for
parts. Parts which can only be sourced from outside the UK will
be reimbursed at the UK price of an equivalent part. Labour costs
that are necessary to repair those parts will be reimbursed as per
the repairer’s warranty labour rate and actual repair times will be
limited to those in the latest Glass’s Guide ICME manual or the
manufacturer’s recommended repair times. With every claim you
make, you must provide a VAT receipt from the repairer authorised
to carry out the repair.
4 If you do not follow the manufacturer’s service schedules or
maintain the vehicle as recommended by the manufacturer,
this warranty will not apply to the extent that the fault was the
result of failure to comply with either the service or maintenance
recommendations. When you have your vehicle serviced, you
are allowed 1,000 miles either side of the service mileage or four
weeks either side of the time period given, whichever comes first.
It is important that you retain your service receipts as they may
be required to validate any repair request you make. Please note
that in the absence of servicing your vehicle at a Jardine location, it
must be serviced by a VAT registered dealer unless the ‘Dealer’ has
agreed otherwise.
5 This warranty is valid for breakdown in the United Kingdom (which
includes Great Britain, Northern Ireland), the Channel Islands and
the Isle of Man. The warranty is also valid whilst your vehicle is
outside the United Kingdom but within the European Union or EFTA
for up to 60 days per annum.
6 You have the right to cancel this warranty within 14 days of
receiving your Validation Certificate. Please contact your supplying
dealer who will arrange the refund. After this period you can cancel
your warranty; however no refund will be paid. In no circumstances
will a refund be paid if a claim has been made. Please note that
where this warranty may have been provided free of charge, no
refund will be payable.
1st 19/08/15 @5,260 miles Ascot
2nd 29/09/16 @8,758 Ascot
3rd 19/12/17 @11,581 Ascot
4th 29/04/19 @13,534 Ascot
5th 12/06/20 @16,191 Ascot
6th 21/06/21 @18,013 Ascot
7th 09/05/22 @19,414 Ascot
8th 28/04/23 @20,741 Ascot
Warranty details below, I can extend it to 3 years for £800ish. Am I being an idot as it seems a pretty comprehensive warranty?
Parts Covered
Jardine Warranty covers almost all mechanical and electrical
parts (including labour to fit them), of the covered vehicle against
mechanical and electrical breakdown as defined below.
There is no restriction to the number of claims you can make, up to an
overall aggregate claim limit which is no more than the value of the
vehicle at the time of purchase.
Mechanical or electrical breakdown is the failure of a component,
causing a sudden stoppage of its function, for a reason other than
wear and tear, normal deterioration or negligence. Damage caused by
the effect of overheating is not regarded as a mechanical or electrical
breakdown under the terms of the warranty.
You are covered only for the parts described in this document. Your
warranty does not cover more than the manufacturer’s list price for
parts.
Repairs must not start without the prior approval of Jardine Warranty
Administration Services.
What is Covered
Your Jardine Warranty covers almost all mechanical and electrical
components on your vehicle, for mechanical and electrical breakdown,
subject to the conditions detailed in this document and the maximum
claim limit. There are some components, such as service items, which
are not covered.
What is not Covered
Whilst you have a high level of warranty cover available, there are
certain items which this warranty specifically does not cover and this
includes, but is not limited to, the following:
• Body components such as strikers, hinges or any component which
may require adjustment from time to time
• Body panels, paintwork or glass
• Interior trim, seat and seat belts
• Recharging of the air conditioning unit (unless required as part of a
valid repair)
• Renewal of brake components due to wear and tear or constant
use of the brakes
• Renewal of any clutch components due to wear, incorrect
adjustment or misuse
• The clearing of fuel lines, filters, throttle body and pumps and
damage to components due to the use of incorrect or contaminated
fuel
• Batteries, bulbs, wiper blades, wheel balancing and alignment,
wheels, tyres and water ingress (including damage to covered
parts caused by water)
• Oil leaks, lubricants, filter elements and any damage caused by
frost or lack of anti-freeze, impact, accident or negligence
Jardine Warranty
7
• Non-factory fitted radio cassette, CD player or any other in-car
entertainment component
• Normal maintenance services, and the replacement of such items
as, but not limited to, spark plugs and plug leads
• Weather strips and body seals
• Any damage or losses to components that are not directly covered
within the terms of this warranty
• Burnt out, sticking or pitted valves
• Damage resulting from the failure of a timing belt which has not
been replaced as per the manufacturer’s recommendations (proof
required).
Please note: Oil, oil filter, gaskets, anti-freeze and brake fluid required
due to the failure of a covered component are covered.
Catalytic Converter
Whilst exhaust systems are excluded, the catalytic converter is covered
as follows:
• The cost of replacement of the vehicle’s catalytic converter(s),
following failure of a test of exhaust gas to meet the relevant in-
service Exhaust Emissions Standard subject to:
1 The catalytic converter(s) being found to be no longer
serviceable.
2 The results of the failed test being made available to the
Jardine Motors Group claims department at the time repair
authorisation is requested.
3 A results print-out from a successful test, following the
replacement, is submitted to the Jardine Motors Group claims
department with the repair invoice.
• This benefit does not cover replacement if the catalytic converter(s)
failure is due to impact or other accidental damage or as a result of
contamination due to the use of incorrect fuel.
Diesel Particulate Filter
The diesel particulate filter is covered for failure providing:
1 Following illumination of the applicable dash warning light,
you drive the vehicle as specified in the manufacturer owners
handbook at the required speed and distance to try and clear the
filter.
2 If the applicable dash warning light remains illuminated, you must
have the filter regenerated by a VAT-registered dealer. Please note
this warranty does not cover the cost of the regeneration process
and you must retain the invoice as proof this process has been
followed and undertaken.
3 If this does not solve the problem then on approval, your Jardine
Warranty will cover the repair or replacement of the diesel
particulate filter.
8
Please note: We reserve the right to provide replacement parts and to
carry out repairs or to arrange for their provision by other persons.
Infotainment Systems
We cover the following factory fitted components during the period of
cover: CD player and CD autochanger, radio including DAB, DVD player
including integrated rear headrest screens, speakers, TV, telephone
and bluetooth device, USB audio interface and aux-in device, iPod
interface (or similar providing the component is factory-fitted), satellite
navigation system and traffic management, excluding discs, batteries,
remote control and electronic key-fob. We will not provide cover for
accidental damage, aerials, design faults and recalls, adjustments,
upgrades, modifications or non-factory-fitted components and we
reserve the right to provide parts or arrange for specialist repair in the
event of a failure.
9
Warranty Conditions
The conditions of this warranty are set out below. Warranty repairs will
only be carried out if you agree to these conditions. Please take time to
read them.
1 It is your responsibility to decide whether to authorise the
dismantling of your vehicle or any covered component. Jardine
Warranty Administration Services will only accept the cost of
dismantling if it is part of an authorised warranty repair.
2 Jardine Warranty Administration Services is not liable for any
statement or representation which contradicts the conditions of
this warranty unless the statement or representation is supported
in writing by Jardine Warranty Administration Services.
3 If the warranty repair is not carried out by Jardine the warranty
repair cost will not be more than the manufacturer’s list prices for
parts. Parts which can only be sourced from outside the UK will
be reimbursed at the UK price of an equivalent part. Labour costs
that are necessary to repair those parts will be reimbursed as per
the repairer’s warranty labour rate and actual repair times will be
limited to those in the latest Glass’s Guide ICME manual or the
manufacturer’s recommended repair times. With every claim you
make, you must provide a VAT receipt from the repairer authorised
to carry out the repair.
4 If you do not follow the manufacturer’s service schedules or
maintain the vehicle as recommended by the manufacturer,
this warranty will not apply to the extent that the fault was the
result of failure to comply with either the service or maintenance
recommendations. When you have your vehicle serviced, you
are allowed 1,000 miles either side of the service mileage or four
weeks either side of the time period given, whichever comes first.
It is important that you retain your service receipts as they may
be required to validate any repair request you make. Please note
that in the absence of servicing your vehicle at a Jardine location, it
must be serviced by a VAT registered dealer unless the ‘Dealer’ has
agreed otherwise.
5 This warranty is valid for breakdown in the United Kingdom (which
includes Great Britain, Northern Ireland), the Channel Islands and
the Isle of Man. The warranty is also valid whilst your vehicle is
outside the United Kingdom but within the European Union or EFTA
for up to 60 days per annum.
6 You have the right to cancel this warranty within 14 days of
receiving your Validation Certificate. Please contact your supplying
dealer who will arrange the refund. After this period you can cancel
your warranty; however no refund will be paid. In no circumstances
will a refund be paid if a claim has been made. Please note that
where this warranty may have been provided free of charge, no
refund will be payable.
Dezbo said:
What’s the single item limit?
there isn't one, its to the value of the car."There is no restriction to the number of claims you can make, up to an overall aggregate claim limit which is no more than the value of the vehicle at the time of purchase"
Edited by Frankychops on Saturday 16th March 19:51
Frankychops said:
Jardine Warranty covers almost all mechanical and electrical
parts (including labour to fit them), of the covered vehicle against
mechanical and electrical breakdown as defined below.
I think that means exactly what it says, i.e. you're covered for electrical/mechanical breakdown. In which case maybe not for parts/systems that are failing but haven't led to a breakdown. Oil leak, gearbox leak, misfire etc. might not be covered?parts (including labour to fit them), of the covered vehicle against
mechanical and electrical breakdown as defined below.
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