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I followed the real case in period, watched the docs and read the book so I might give it a go.
Edited to provide this link - all episodes are available on iPlayer now -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m001wgpg/th...
Edited to provide this link - all episodes are available on iPlayer now -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m001wgpg/th...
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 19th March 09:19
Started watching it and two episodes in.
A few observations.
Holmes comes across as an airhead - she isn't.
Holmes comes across as monosyllabic and unintelligible - she isn't.
As a comparison, it might be worthwhile watching the real Holme's videoed deposition from 2017 compared to how it is portrayed in the film version. It's much easier to hear what the real person said and she was far less waffly than portrayed.
Overall, the dialogue is indistinct and poorly articulated. Everybody, with a few exceptions, has a bad case of "the mumbles". Even Stephen Fry, who plays the English engineer who worked for Theranos, doesn't speak very clearly. This indicates to me that this is more of a sound levels decision by the film makers rather than any fault of the actors as no one can accuse Mr Fry of speaking in an indistinct way.
Too much background pop music.
However, despite all that I will perservere as the story is interesting.
A few observations.
Holmes comes across as an airhead - she isn't.
Holmes comes across as monosyllabic and unintelligible - she isn't.
As a comparison, it might be worthwhile watching the real Holme's videoed deposition from 2017 compared to how it is portrayed in the film version. It's much easier to hear what the real person said and she was far less waffly than portrayed.
Overall, the dialogue is indistinct and poorly articulated. Everybody, with a few exceptions, has a bad case of "the mumbles". Even Stephen Fry, who plays the English engineer who worked for Theranos, doesn't speak very clearly. This indicates to me that this is more of a sound levels decision by the film makers rather than any fault of the actors as no one can accuse Mr Fry of speaking in an indistinct way.
Too much background pop music.
However, despite all that I will perservere as the story is interesting.
Elroy Blue said:
I thought she got Holmes voice and mannerisms spot on.
I'll see how it develops over the future episodes. The real Holmes did a "Mrs Thatcher" and deliberately lowered her voice register in an attempt to sound authoratitive.However, her voice was always clear and you could always hear what she said - even if it was all a load of old guff and lies.
Finished this last night and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it after not really feeling it at the start.
Didn't really know anything about the case or Elizabeth Holmes at the time, but it's jaw-dropping that such a fraud with such sums of money and people like Kissinger involved could happen. Wow!
Didn't really know anything about the case or Elizabeth Holmes at the time, but it's jaw-dropping that such a fraud with such sums of money and people like Kissinger involved could happen. Wow!
cuprabob said:
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Hedobot said:
Dopesick , which is in the same vein is very well worth a watch.
I preferred it to The Dropout
You're not the first to say that, I must give it a go. I preferred it to The Dropout
vixen1700 said:
Finished this last night and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it after not really feeling it at the start.
Didn't really know anything about the case or Elizabeth Holmes at the time, but it's jaw-dropping that such a fraud with such sums of money and people like Kissinger involved could happen. Wow!
Once it got going it got better. I really enjoyed it in the end. I was VERY familiar with the story having followed it closely once it broke about six or seven years ago.Didn't really know anything about the case or Elizabeth Holmes at the time, but it's jaw-dropping that such a fraud with such sums of money and people like Kissinger involved could happen. Wow!
Eric Mc said:
Started watching it and two episodes in.
A few observations.
Holmes comes across as an airhead - she isn't.
Holmes comes across as monosyllabic and unintelligible - she isn't.
As a comparison, it might be worthwhile watching the real Holme's videoed deposition from 2017 compared to how it is portrayed in the film version. It's much easier to hear what the real person said and she was far less waffly than portrayed.
Overall, the dialogue is indistinct and poorly articulated. Everybody, with a few exceptions, has a bad case of "the mumbles". Even Stephen Fry, who plays the English engineer who worked for Theranos, doesn't speak very clearly. This indicates to me that this is more of a sound levels decision by the film makers rather than any fault of the actors as no one can accuse Mr Fry of speaking in an indistinct way.
Too much background pop music.
However, despite all that I will perservere as the story is interesting.
Would you have a link to these videos you mention.A few observations.
Holmes comes across as an airhead - she isn't.
Holmes comes across as monosyllabic and unintelligible - she isn't.
As a comparison, it might be worthwhile watching the real Holme's videoed deposition from 2017 compared to how it is portrayed in the film version. It's much easier to hear what the real person said and she was far less waffly than portrayed.
Overall, the dialogue is indistinct and poorly articulated. Everybody, with a few exceptions, has a bad case of "the mumbles". Even Stephen Fry, who plays the English engineer who worked for Theranos, doesn't speak very clearly. This indicates to me that this is more of a sound levels decision by the film makers rather than any fault of the actors as no one can accuse Mr Fry of speaking in an indistinct way.
Too much background pop music.
However, despite all that I will perservere as the story is interesting.
Also how come the guy (I forget his name) got a longer sentance than Elizabeth Holmes?
Oliver Hardy said:
Would you have a link to these videos you mention.
Also how come the guy (I forget his name) got a longer sentance than Elizabeth Holmes?
Just put "Elizabeth Holmes 2017 deposition" into Google / YouTube and you'll find them.Also how come the guy (I forget his name) got a longer sentance than Elizabeth Holmes?
His name is Sunny Balwani and the reason given is as follows;
"Prosecutors meanwhile urged a sentence of 15 years and $803m in restitution. They argued that through inaccurate blood tests at Theranos, Balwani had shown “conscious or reckless risk of death or serious bodily injury” toward patients and deserved a longer sentence than Holmes."
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