How 'lively' should the steering be?!

How 'lively' should the steering be?!

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Ken Figenus

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5,708 posts

118 months

Sunday 31st March
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Absolutely loving my GT. Performed stunningly on a 250 mile Welsh blast yesterday.

Its a different car than my previous Porsche and Astons etc - the steering is dialled to be SO responsive and pointy. You cant drive this car one one handed!

I sometimes do feel its TOO lively though - was getting quite a bit of darty bump steer on one bumpy very fast straight (A4067 Defynnog to Crai if anyone knows it). Just wondered if that is the tradeoff or if it shouldn't be happening as I don't take bump steer as a positive really? 98% of the time the car is genius and so pointy and planted of course...

Might be a idea as I remember Center Gravity dialing bump steer out of a Porsche for me so who's the go-to for alignment in UK pls?

Cheers

Pic as I'm still on a high!

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markiii

3,620 posts

195 months

Sunday 31st March
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for my money go back to CG

Ken Figenus

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5,708 posts

118 months

Sunday 31st March
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Cheers. The way they dialled it out of the Porsche was probably the best mod ever... No exaggeration.

samoht

5,728 posts

147 months

Sunday 31st March
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What you're describing sounds like both the 570S I hired and to a less marked extent the 570GT I have (having had the geo done on my car to factory spec). It also sounds like the description I read of Elise steering, way back.

Which is to say that I don't think it's anything wrong with your car, and it's probably as it's 'meant to be'.

This in no way means it couldn't be adjusted to be reduced, I guess the question mark is whether there's any trade-off in feel, or if it would be a pure benefit.

fridaypassion

8,569 posts

229 months

Sunday 31st March
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I have some bump steer on my 600lt it's not severe but certainly something I've noticed. I can comfortably drive one handed if necessary but it is there.

A top tip that night save you some time is to get a simple geo done ideally on a hunter machine with you sat in the car.

12pack

1,546 posts

169 months

Monday 1st April
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FWIW, I’ve often posted of the advantage of the super series suspension regarding bump steer in this forum….

Ken Figenus

Original Poster:

5,708 posts

118 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Thanks guys - prob worth a trip back to CG as they dialled it out on a previous car by having perfect symmetry - no tolerances... This one is a keeper so worth the investment.

Have to say it was absolutely seminal ride and handling pushing on this road. Loving it.


ex-devonpaul

1,192 posts

138 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Nice blue car in the sea of yellow.

You must have felt like the drummer in Right Said Fred.

Olivera

7,154 posts

240 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Ken Figenus said:
Thanks guys - prob worth a trip back to CG as they dialled it out on a previous car by having perfect symmetry - no tolerances... This one is a keeper so worth the investment.
Dialling out the tramlining = reducing negative camber = less cornering ability.

fridaypassion

8,569 posts

229 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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I would assume CG will have the kit to measure the bump steer it's not the easiest thing in the world to do actually.

I had horrific bump steer on one of my Lotus cars and it was cured by resetting the toe with ballast just on one side not both as per spec.

Usually though bump steer will be a case of setting the height of the track rod ends you can only generally do this by actually adjusting the ride height.


Ingenere

133 posts

150 months

Thursday 4th April
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I would bet you need the geometry set.

Ken Figenus

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5,708 posts

118 months

Thursday 4th April
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ex-devonpaul said:
Nice blue car in the sea of yellow.

You must have felt like the drummer in Right Said Fred.
On my arse....biglaughclap




Ken Figenus

Original Poster:

5,708 posts

118 months

Friday 5th April
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fridaypassion said:
I would assume CG will have the kit to measure the bump steer it's not the easiest thing in the world to do actually.

I had horrific bump steer on one of my Lotus cars and it was cured by resetting the toe with ballast just on one side not both as per spec.

Usually though bump steer will be a case of setting the height of the track rod ends you can only generally do this by actually adjusting the ride height.
They do a before and after drive on a bumpy B road and you just sense the lack of bump steer after the alignment - the furry dice do not move laterally any more! This on a Macan which they moved the subframe over a few mm foryes Booked in.

Thanks for the input.