USA to get 'The Plague' of the Scamera.....
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Opinion: The Rise of Freeway Photo Radar
A commentary by Richard Diamond on plans to deploy speed cameras on American highways.
Automatic speed cameras have dotted European highways for well over a decade -- even though there's no conclusive proof that they improve safety. In fact, an official British government report recently stated "No significant difference was observed in the personal injury accident rate for sites with and without speed cameras." And yet the bane of European roadways is coming to a freeway near you. By the time spring arrives, at least two US states will install photo radar cameras on their highways, issuing millions of dollars worth of fines to hapless motorists.
In October, the Scottsdale, Arizona City Council approved a plan to place photo radar cameras on Loop 101, a freeway that encompasses the Phoenix metropolitan area. It’s a no-brainer for Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano; under the plan, the state takes a 46 percent cut of the estimated $22 million annual haul while Scottsdale bears all the political risk. Unsurprisingly, Napolitano views Scottsdale’s scheme as a pilot program. Even before its implementation, the governor has publicly expressed her desire to expand the photo radar program throughout the state.
Meanwhile, Illinois is planning to install speed cameras on its interstates. Government officials are busy haggling over how to split the loot with the private company running the program. The state shouldn’t be too bothered about the exact arrangement. Once the cameras are erected, Illinois’ revenue collection effort will quickly dwarf their Arizona colleagues' relatively limited and leisurely program. No wonder: a single high-speed round-trip on an Illinois freeway could cost a motorist $1375.
The Illinois legislature authorized the ticket cameras to "protect vulnerable highway laborers." To that end, Illinois’ unmanned speed cameras will snap all motorists who fail to observe the reduced speed limit in designated work zones, and automatically send them a $375 ticket. A second offense costs $1000. Officials admit they may place two cameras a mile or so away from each other. Those so trapped will lose their license for 90 days, receive points on their license, and pay higher insurance premiums.
Of course, the “saving workers” argument is entirely suspect. According to a study prepared by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, automobiles caused just fifteen percent of highway worker deaths nationwide. Lawmakers behind the Illinois program cooked the books by including fatalities caused by construction vehicles -- such as highway workers hit by their own dump trucks. Be that as it may, Illinois and Arizona are about to experience what happens when history is ignored...
In 1986, two Texas towns, La Marque and Friendswood, began the first US implementations of photo radar. The programs didn't even last the year. "You could say there was a good bit of unhappiness," La Marque's former mayor Jack Nash told the Los Angeles Times. Friendswood fared no better. "I'm certain it's a good system if you want to make money, but you're going to find that the community is going to lose its reputation very quickly," said Galveston County Constable Paul Bess. "It won't come back to my area."
Every time photo radar is put to a direct popular vote, it loses. Big time. Peoria, Arizona voters ran photo radar out of town by a 2-1 margin in 1991, and sent the police chief packing. The following year, two-thirds of eligible voters in Batavia, Illinois turned out for a referendum on speed cameras. They rejected the devices and booted the main camera proponent from the city council. Anchorage, Alaska completed the anti-camera trifecta in 1997. The state legislature canceled the photo radar program just four days before voters enacted a referendum banning cameras. Months later, Alaska's Court of Appeals found the photo radar program "unreliable."
Some long-term speed camera programs have been incredibly successful -- in raising revenue from out-of-towners. The District of Columbia complains of "taxation without representation" on its license plates but practices it on the residents of Virginia and Maryland. Official documents reveal that "outsiders" received well over 75 percent of the $155 million in photo tickets issued by the federal city since 1999. Likewise, commuters traveling between Scottsdale and Phoenix receive 98 percent of Paradise Valley, Arizona's automated speeding tickets.
The lesson is clear: speed cameras that target local residents are the first to go. The forthcoming Arizona and Illinois programs-- and their political backers-- aren't likely to last long. When given the opportunity, US voters consistently reject automated speed traps as both invasive and ineffective. It's a tribute to the American system of government that our representatives' not-so-hidden addiction to speed camera revenue is -- and will continue to be -- stymied by a combination of common sense and political will.
Opinion: The Rise of Freeway Photo Radar
A commentary by Richard Diamond on plans to deploy speed cameras on American highways.
Automatic speed cameras have dotted European highways for well over a decade -- even though there's no conclusive proof that they improve safety. In fact, an official British government report recently stated "No significant difference was observed in the personal injury accident rate for sites with and without speed cameras." And yet the bane of European roadways is coming to a freeway near you. By the time spring arrives, at least two US states will install photo radar cameras on their highways, issuing millions of dollars worth of fines to hapless motorists.
In October, the Scottsdale, Arizona City Council approved a plan to place photo radar cameras on Loop 101, a freeway that encompasses the Phoenix metropolitan area. It’s a no-brainer for Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano; under the plan, the state takes a 46 percent cut of the estimated $22 million annual haul while Scottsdale bears all the political risk. Unsurprisingly, Napolitano views Scottsdale’s scheme as a pilot program. Even before its implementation, the governor has publicly expressed her desire to expand the photo radar program throughout the state.
Meanwhile, Illinois is planning to install speed cameras on its interstates. Government officials are busy haggling over how to split the loot with the private company running the program. The state shouldn’t be too bothered about the exact arrangement. Once the cameras are erected, Illinois’ revenue collection effort will quickly dwarf their Arizona colleagues' relatively limited and leisurely program. No wonder: a single high-speed round-trip on an Illinois freeway could cost a motorist $1375.
The Illinois legislature authorized the ticket cameras to "protect vulnerable highway laborers." To that end, Illinois’ unmanned speed cameras will snap all motorists who fail to observe the reduced speed limit in designated work zones, and automatically send them a $375 ticket. A second offense costs $1000. Officials admit they may place two cameras a mile or so away from each other. Those so trapped will lose their license for 90 days, receive points on their license, and pay higher insurance premiums.
Of course, the “saving workers” argument is entirely suspect. According to a study prepared by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, automobiles caused just fifteen percent of highway worker deaths nationwide. Lawmakers behind the Illinois program cooked the books by including fatalities caused by construction vehicles -- such as highway workers hit by their own dump trucks. Be that as it may, Illinois and Arizona are about to experience what happens when history is ignored...
In 1986, two Texas towns, La Marque and Friendswood, began the first US implementations of photo radar. The programs didn't even last the year. "You could say there was a good bit of unhappiness," La Marque's former mayor Jack Nash told the Los Angeles Times. Friendswood fared no better. "I'm certain it's a good system if you want to make money, but you're going to find that the community is going to lose its reputation very quickly," said Galveston County Constable Paul Bess. "It won't come back to my area."
Every time photo radar is put to a direct popular vote, it loses. Big time. Peoria, Arizona voters ran photo radar out of town by a 2-1 margin in 1991, and sent the police chief packing. The following year, two-thirds of eligible voters in Batavia, Illinois turned out for a referendum on speed cameras. They rejected the devices and booted the main camera proponent from the city council. Anchorage, Alaska completed the anti-camera trifecta in 1997. The state legislature canceled the photo radar program just four days before voters enacted a referendum banning cameras. Months later, Alaska's Court of Appeals found the photo radar program "unreliable."
Some long-term speed camera programs have been incredibly successful -- in raising revenue from out-of-towners. The District of Columbia complains of "taxation without representation" on its license plates but practices it on the residents of Virginia and Maryland. Official documents reveal that "outsiders" received well over 75 percent of the $155 million in photo tickets issued by the federal city since 1999. Likewise, commuters traveling between Scottsdale and Phoenix receive 98 percent of Paradise Valley, Arizona's automated speeding tickets.
The lesson is clear: speed cameras that target local residents are the first to go. The forthcoming Arizona and Illinois programs-- and their political backers-- aren't likely to last long. When given the opportunity, US voters consistently reject automated speed traps as both invasive and ineffective. It's a tribute to the American system of government that our representatives' not-so-hidden addiction to speed camera revenue is -- and will continue to be -- stymied by a combination of common sense and political will.
JMGS4 said:
Wait until the rednecks start taking them out with 12 bores loaded with pigshot!!! Much easier and quicker than burning the things!!!
Indeed I was thinking along those lines myself, Imagine a few thousand Scameras, 100 million irate Motorists, 200 Million Guns.
Not much chance of being caught if you snipe the thing from a distance.......... with an Elephant Gun!
Lets hope the Good ole'boys show us how it should be done!........
catso said:
Wait until the rednecks start taking them out with 12 bores loaded with pigshot!!! Much easier and quicker than burning the things!!!
Indeed I was thinking along those lines myself, Imagine a few thousand Scameras, 100 million irate Motorists, 200 Million Guns.
Not much chance of being caught if you snipe the thing from a distance.......... with an Elephant Gun!
Lets hope the Good ole'boys show us how it should be done!........
Happens regularly on the 401 around Toronto!!!! Ontario getting tired of replacing them nowadays!!!
JMGS4 said:
Wait until the rednecks start taking them out with 12 bores loaded with pigshot!!! Much easier and quicker than burning the things!!!
This ought to do the trick..
One Shot, One Kill
THE ROBAR RC-50 is a a bolt-action rifle designed for military purposes. The calibre is .50 BMG and it has a capacity for 5 cartridges. The effective range of this weapon is 6000 feet.
"The destructive power of a sniper rifle firing 50 caliber rounds is difficult to overstate. John L. Plaster, author of The Ultimate Sniper—a military and police training manual— offers the following description of 50 caliber performance: "Here's a bullet that even at 1½ miles crashes into a target with more energy than Dirty Harry's famous .44 Magnum at point-blank."
The sniper rifle is truly a military weapon, fielded by armies in conflicts around the world. In the 1991 Gulf War, United States armed forces used 50 caliber sniper rifles to destroy Iraqi light armored vehicles, missiles, and artillery. In the 1989 invasion of Panama, they were reportedly used to disable aircraft belonging to Manuel Noriega. Jane's International Defense Review, a military journal, concludes that "from an operational standpoint, the closest parallel weapon to a 0.50-calibre rifle is probably the 60mm mortar."
These same military armaments—designed and sold for the express purpose of killing people and disabling key command and control outposts—are now freely available across America's gun shop counters. As a result, this ideal tool for assassination and destruction is now easily accessible to terrorists, criminals, and the mentally unstable."
Aw, 
it. I move 4,000 miles to get away from ing cameras and they bloody follow me here 
I've found the frequent (but changing) and visible presence of Highway Patrol officers on the Interstate to be a far bigger deterrant than cameras ever were in the UK (but I suppose cameras are cheaper ).
"'The Man' a-spying on me an my Camaro wit doze dahmned cam-er-ahs" isn't going to go down too well. I can't see them lasting too long myself
it. I move 4,000 miles to get away from ing cameras and they bloody follow me here I've found the frequent (but changing) and visible presence of Highway Patrol officers on the Interstate to be a far bigger deterrant than cameras ever were in the UK (but I suppose cameras are cheaper
). "'The Man' a-spying on me an my Camaro wit doze dahmned cam-er-ahs" isn't going to go down too well. I can't see them lasting too long myself
catso said:
Every time photo radar is put to a direct popular vote, it loses. Big time. Peoria, Arizona voters ran photo radar out of town by a 2-1 margin in 1991, and sent the police chief packing. The following year, two-thirds of eligible voters in Batavia, Illinois turned out for a referendum on speed cameras. They rejected the devices and booted the main camera proponent from the city council. Anchorage, Alaska completed the anti-camera trifecta in 1997. The state legislature canceled the photo radar program just four days before voters enacted a referendum banning cameras.
Ooooh yes please! Let's have a popular vote in UK!! Let's get chance to vote for police chiefs!! Let's have a referendum on speed cameras!!!
Oh, silly me. We're not a democracy, we're a Tonecracy. Everything is imposed. More houses, more buses, more cameras, more congestion charging, more taxes, more wars. Don't risk a "no" vote, just assume a "yes".
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