Violent Games Targeted
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Wait for another witchhunt like the video nasties of the 80's (that worked 
).
I have played Manhunt and found it to be a dull and slow game so switched back to Half-Life 2.
www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13511317,00.html
). I have played Manhunt and found it to be a dull and slow game so switched back to Half-Life 2.
www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13511317,00.html
Gotta wonder about these people's parenting ability if they think their own children will become murderers because they played Grand Theft Auto when young (which is age restricted anyway...).
You don't become a screw up just by playing computer games! If you kill someone like you saw on TV, the problem is not the TV program but you!
You don't become a screw up just by playing computer games! If you kill someone like you saw on TV, the problem is not the TV program but you!
news article said:
Mr Vaz's Bill has almost no chance of becoming law.
It's just an MP trying to drum up some attention for himself. There is an existing classification system on games, which parents ignore and then act all shocked and indignant when their child acts differently having been exposed to the content in these games.
interesting debate this...
my conclusion is that people who dont play games fear them...in the sense that because they dont understand the
idea or fun behind them, they automatically associate games with causing problems.
I have had several arguments with my wife, who doesnt like me playing games like Battlefield 2 and Perfect dark zero in front of my 5 year son..(who just finds the games fascinating, and loves the tanks ehlicopters etc)..
but is quite happy to let him watch Power Rangers all day long.
These people (including her) are hypocrits.
my conclusion is that people who dont play games fear them...in the sense that because they dont understand the
idea or fun behind them, they automatically associate games with causing problems.
I have had several arguments with my wife, who doesnt like me playing games like Battlefield 2 and Perfect dark zero in front of my 5 year son..(who just finds the games fascinating, and loves the tanks ehlicopters etc)..
but is quite happy to let him watch Power Rangers all day long.
These people (including her) are hypocrits.
Its not a new argument, every now and then an MP drags it out, its been happening since the '80s.
The last big one was Grand Theft Auto (every version of GTA released seems to atract the same comments), despite the game being rated 18.
As someone who has been playing games for as long as home computers and consoles have been around, I have never felt the need to re-enact any events from violent games, in the same way that violent films have had no effect on me.
I'm currently playing Black and its level of carnage is huge, and quite clearly not real, its fun, but hardly going to cause me to try and do the same.
If someone is predisposed to carry out a violent act then a game or film may trigger them, but so could a new report or a comment from a passer-by. Its not a valid reason to attempt to ban them.
Keith Vaz has just picked up on an issue to try and revive his failed career as an MP, given the size and income generated by the games industry any attempt to ban games is likely to fail. The industry is very professional and in my opinion currently well regulated.
The last big one was Grand Theft Auto (every version of GTA released seems to atract the same comments), despite the game being rated 18.
As someone who has been playing games for as long as home computers and consoles have been around, I have never felt the need to re-enact any events from violent games, in the same way that violent films have had no effect on me.
I'm currently playing Black and its level of carnage is huge, and quite clearly not real, its fun, but hardly going to cause me to try and do the same.
If someone is predisposed to carry out a violent act then a game or film may trigger them, but so could a new report or a comment from a passer-by. Its not a valid reason to attempt to ban them.
Keith Vaz has just picked up on an issue to try and revive his failed career as an MP, given the size and income generated by the games industry any attempt to ban games is likely to fail. The industry is very professional and in my opinion currently well regulated.
Manhunt was great, really shocking and appalling that had you wincing a lot of the time at just how sick the main character was, a real car crash game where you couldn't help but look... It's an old argument though that seems to rise up every year or two, anything could influence someone into doing something sick, books, movies, songs or games but in the end it's down to the person, not any influential material.
The Aussies banned grand theft auto amongst a few other games and the Yanks have just brought in a violent games bill, a bit stupid in this day and age where movies plumb the depths of depravity and there is no call to see them banned.
There's also the argument about the hot coffee mod in GTA, there was no actual nudity, just a bit of button bashing and what looked like dry humping... Yet there was a massive uproar in America about it, more so than any violent game. Sex being the most natural thing in the world and killing someone being one of the least human acts, but as it's America, land of the gun toting prude it's wrong. Here in England as it was already an 18 rated game (it was an adult rated game in America too) they didn't see any problem with it.
Not meant as any sort of dig at our American cousins on here, just the strange reaction that seems to happen there, and the consequent changes in government to clamp down on material in the supposed land of the free...
That was far too philosophical, time for a lie down..
The Aussies banned grand theft auto amongst a few other games and the Yanks have just brought in a violent games bill, a bit stupid in this day and age where movies plumb the depths of depravity and there is no call to see them banned.
There's also the argument about the hot coffee mod in GTA, there was no actual nudity, just a bit of button bashing and what looked like dry humping... Yet there was a massive uproar in America about it, more so than any violent game. Sex being the most natural thing in the world and killing someone being one of the least human acts, but as it's America, land of the gun toting prude it's wrong. Here in England as it was already an 18 rated game (it was an adult rated game in America too) they didn't see any problem with it.
Not meant as any sort of dig at our American cousins on here, just the strange reaction that seems to happen there, and the consequent changes in government to clamp down on material in the supposed land of the free...
That was far too philosophical, time for a lie down..
This is just a farce, they're never going to ban computer games in Britain because we're not as ignorant and fickel as Americans. It makes me laugh that in America they frown upon swearing so much that any word that could be construed to be sexual, violent or politically incorrect at all (come, sex, black, gun etc.) are all blanked from any song or TV show played there on public TV/radio, yet when I was there a few years ago they had the film Poltergeist, and quite violent episodes of Jerry Springer, showing on cable TV at lunchtime!
They need to get their act together and realise what's wrong with their censorship laws.
They need to get their act together and realise what's wrong with their censorship laws.
AL666 said:Gulp. Lets hope you are right.
This is just a farce, they're never going to ban computer games in Britain because we're not as ignorant and fickel as Americans.
In this day and age of political correctness gone mad, our sociteties' collectively allow themselves to be run by intellectually engineered hyperventalists, a minority who stamps its politically corref feet until it gets what it wants, to the degree that one can probably assume with some certainty that we will likely follow suit in years to come
When will the insane ravings of this minority (in all walks of life, not just video games) be cast aside, so that we can just get on and play games (read live life, generally) with a ratings board which helps do what it says it does on the tin?
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>> Edited by UKBob on Thursday 2nd March 16:08
UKBob said:
Manhunt was great.... but in the end it's down to the person, not any influential material. 
Manhunt brilliant for playing when you get in from the pub, few beers inside you lights out, and scare yourself stupid.
ahh perfect for a good nights sleep
UKBob said:
Manhunt was great.... but in the end it's down to the person, not any influential material.
That game doesn't do much for your morals does it? The guy has to sneak up on people, and if they see him he has to run away as he isn't strong enough to go at the face to face.
It was a very atmospheric game, and I thoroughly enjoyed playing it. But I did have to stop sometimes...
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