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I agree with the fine, it's ridiculous but these are ridiculous times.
The more decent people who get caught like this the less tolerance society as a whole will have for it. Look at speeding, wether you agree with it or not by penalising the borderline cases society slowly finds it intolerable for anyone to speed.
The more decent people who get caught like this the less tolerance society as a whole will have for it. Look at speeding, wether you agree with it or not by penalising the borderline cases society slowly finds it intolerable for anyone to speed.
apache said:
I agree with the fine, it's ridiculous but these are ridiculous times.
The more decent people who get caught like this the less tolerance society as a whole will have for it. Look at speeding, wether you agree with it or not by penalising the borderline cases society slowly finds it intolerable for anyone to speed.
Not sure of your point. Are you saying a dumbed down society is a better one?
s2art said:I thought apache was saying, and I stand to be corrected by the author, that it is sometimes advantageous to have bad situations get worse for a while, i.e. in this case a cheesy fine for wotsit ejection or maybe sixty squid and three points for marginally exceeding a (add the usual list) speed limit applied to half the population including journalists - - as this then hastens the time when enough is had by enough, and change therefore might happen sooner.
apache said:
I agree with the fine, it's ridiculous but these are ridiculous times.
The more decent people who get caught like this the less tolerance society as a whole will have for it. Look at speeding, wether you agree with it or not by penalising the borderline cases society slowly finds it intolerable for anyone to speed.
Not sure of your point. Are you saying a dumbed down society is a better one?
Or maybe some other meaning was intended
apache said:
I agree with the fine, it's ridiculous but these are ridiculous times.
The more decent people who get caught like this the less tolerance society as a whole will have for it. Look at speeding, wether you agree with it or not by penalising the borderline cases society slowly finds it intolerable for anyone to speed.
All decent people - now that would be great to see happen. On the Radio 4 news she said that when she went to pay the fine at their office - she then went back to their entrance - picked up the 20 fag butts right outside their door and took them back in - "They didn't like that" she said.
Now, do you reckon they'll fine themselves £1500 for comitting the same offence?
turbobloke said:
s2art said:I thought apache was saying, and I stand to be corrected by the author, that it is sometimes advantageous to have bad situations get worse for a while, i.e. in this case a cheesy fine for wotsit ejection or maybe sixty squid and three points for marginally exceeding a (add the usual list) speed limit applied to half the population including journalists - - as this then hastens the time when enough is had by enough, and change therefore might happen sooner.
apache said:
I agree with the fine, it's ridiculous but these are ridiculous times.
The more decent people who get caught like this the less tolerance society as a whole will have for it. Look at speeding, wether you agree with it or not by penalising the borderline cases society slowly finds it intolerable for anyone to speed.
Not sure of your point. Are you saying a dumbed down society is a better one?
Or maybe some other meaning was intended
nope, you got it, and they spoke to the enforcement officer on the news this morning, apparently she was smoking the wotsit before she flicked it out the window. Which means she was smoking in the car with her kids, nice one
>> Edited by apache on Thursday 4th May 08:58
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