993 engine fire
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I recently paid £19k for a 94 model lhd 993. The car had a fault with the engine wiring harness resulting in a minor (or so it looked) engine fire.
Well the quote to fix the car from a Porsche dealer is over £13k so I know my insurer will right the car off as uneconomic to repair.
How much am I likely to get paid out by the insurer, they reckon book value was between £12-£15k. I feel like I'm facing a big loss and I've no experince of insurance companies with a written off car.
Any similar experiences on here
Well the quote to fix the car from a Porsche dealer is over £13k so I know my insurer will right the car off as uneconomic to repair.
How much am I likely to get paid out by the insurer, they reckon book value was between £12-£15k. I feel like I'm facing a big loss and I've no experince of insurance companies with a written off car.
Any similar experiences on here
There is / was an official recall for harness faults, whereby wiring harnesses for 993s before a certain VIN code had their harnesses replaced free of charge. I wonder if you couldn't get someone to confirm whether or not your car had this fault and get the whole lot fixed by Porsche (including the consequential damage).
A quick phone call to your local OPC quoting your Chassis Number to the parts department will enable them to check if the car has been the subject of a recall for the engine wiring harness mod (I suggest you say nothing about the fire until you've established whether the work has been carried out) If they ask, tell 'em you just bought the car and "heard" there's some kind of engine wiring harness recall (doing your best to sound as vague and uninterested as possible !)
Good luck.
Good luck.
slippydiff said:
A quick phone call to your local OPC quoting your Chassis Number to the parts department will enable them to check if the car has been the subject of a recall for the engine wiring harness mod (I suggest you say nothing about the fire until you've established whether the work has been carried out) If they ask, tell 'em you just bought the car and "heard" there's some kind of engine wiring harness recall (doing your best to sound as vague and uninterested as possible !)
Good luck.
Good luck.
There was also a recall for creaking windscreens you could ask about that as well - to support your "general interest in recalls".
Regarding your actual problem, I suggest you get another quote from a non-OPC specialist - might be a bit more palatable for the insurers. Your profile says you are in Greece (is this where the car is now?) so I can't really offer any practical suggestions as to where. But if you are in the UK, say where and someone is bound to have some ideas.
FWIW my insurers paid out a similar (though smaller) sum for bodywork repairs to mine after a really low speed shunt - amazing what repairs to porkers can cost.
As mentioned, the loom fault is well known and Porsche have put their hand up to it (after years of denial!).
Book price in the UK is perhaps 17k tops all things being equal; they normally write off at 60% of value.
I'd see if Porsche fix it as it was a known fault; that said, they probably did an official recall and may escape liability if they did their best at getting it fixed before the fire.
Book price in the UK is perhaps 17k tops all things being equal; they normally write off at 60% of value.
I'd see if Porsche fix it as it was a known fault; that said, they probably did an official recall and may escape liability if they did their best at getting it fixed before the fire.
I've checked with the original Porsche dealer in Germany and they have confirmed that it has not been recalled or had the wiring loom upgrade. All very annoying as I had a had a PPI by a well known Porsche specialist.
The car was imported into the UK in 2000 and I think remained outside the UK Porsche dealer network but does have some service history at Porsche dealers in Italy and Spain during 2002 and 2003, so there might be a claim against Porsche if the recall date is prior to these services, the car is well travelled as it now resides in Greece and is likely to remain so!!
My Insurance documents mention market value so I might get a bit more than book, here's hoping as I have only had the car two months, thinking about it I might even have some sort of claim against the dealer who supplied the car?
The car was imported into the UK in 2000 and I think remained outside the UK Porsche dealer network but does have some service history at Porsche dealers in Italy and Spain during 2002 and 2003, so there might be a claim against Porsche if the recall date is prior to these services, the car is well travelled as it now resides in Greece and is likely to remain so!!
My Insurance documents mention market value so I might get a bit more than book, here's hoping as I have only had the car two months, thinking about it I might even have some sort of claim against the dealer who supplied the car?
Edited by bruceb on Friday 16th June 17:49
Market value would perhaps be 19-23k in the UK, dependent on loads of things, of course. You should always push for that as all policies bar trade pay market value in the UK.
As for a claim against the dealer, difficult... the car was fit for purpose at the time of sale and it's not like they could have been expected to know. It's really just one of those things, shows the benefits of forums like these as the topic has been mentioned before, years ago, but it's easy to miss it. Good luck tho' as the warranty company or dealer may feel sorry for you. Best bet is to get insurance to cough up a proper amount, however, and maybe get another 993. I'd even consider buying the old one back. Loom fires cost a lot at main dealer prices to put right, but can often be fixed must more cheaply out of the system.
As for a claim against the dealer, difficult... the car was fit for purpose at the time of sale and it's not like they could have been expected to know. It's really just one of those things, shows the benefits of forums like these as the topic has been mentioned before, years ago, but it's easy to miss it. Good luck tho' as the warranty company or dealer may feel sorry for you. Best bet is to get insurance to cough up a proper amount, however, and maybe get another 993. I'd even consider buying the old one back. Loom fires cost a lot at main dealer prices to put right, but can often be fixed must more cheaply out of the system.
Surely it is never to late to do a recall? Can't you try to get Porsche to do the wiring harness upgrade for free on this basis, with your insurance then taking the hit for any consequential damage that the fire has caused?
Best of luck sorting it out. How are your door check straps?
Best of luck sorting it out. How are your door check straps?
Bruceb very bad luck I am afraid, however if you are going to have a go through Porsche gb let me know I recently had a long (9 mts battle)on the check strap issues and may be able to impart a little of my experience which may help.
And secondally if you can buy the salvage back from the insurers you may be able to sell it on and I may even know someone who would be interested in buying it from you to turn it into a race car so you may be able to make a little profit there.
mail me via my private mail if you like
Kind Regards
Phib
And secondally if you can buy the salvage back from the insurers you may be able to sell it on and I may even know someone who would be interested in buying it from you to turn it into a race car so you may be able to make a little profit there.
mail me via my private mail if you like
Kind Regards
Phib
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions, I appreciate it
and I have good news....
the insurance is going to fix the car, market value turned out to be £19-20k so its cheaper to get it fixed in Greece than write it off and transport to UK for disposal.
Just got to wait for the claims assessor to visit the car later this week and fingers crossed the spares will be on order
Really missing driving the 993 after only three weeks off the road
and I have good news....
the insurance is going to fix the car, market value turned out to be £19-20k so its cheaper to get it fixed in Greece than write it off and transport to UK for disposal.
Just got to wait for the claims assessor to visit the car later this week and fingers crossed the spares will be on order
Really missing driving the 993 after only three weeks off the road
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