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PetrolTed said:
Will do (won't be for a couple of weeks).
I plan to solve that problem in the same was as Google/YouTube in due course by serving them all in Flash.
I plan to solve that problem in the same was as Google/YouTube in due course by serving them all in Flash.
NO TED PLEASE DON'T DO THIS!!! Flash format is a complete and utter pain in the arse. It's the main reason why I want to hit youtube's servers with an EMP weapon. I have to convert them to some other format to watch them and the multiple stages of lossy encoding and decoding mean that the result is almost unwatchably cack. If you must do it then PLEASE also provide them in whatever format they were originally uploaded in.
agent006 said:
Pigeon said:
I have to convert them to some other format to watch them
Why?
He is probably copying them from the browser temp folder to save them on his hardrive...
It can still be done if in Flash but then you need to run them through a .flv file converter and it doesn't always work.
Pigeon said:
PetrolTed said:
Will do (won't be for a couple of weeks).
I plan to solve that problem in the same was as Google/YouTube in due course by serving them all in Flash.
I plan to solve that problem in the same was as Google/YouTube in due course by serving them all in Flash.
NO TED PLEASE DON'T DO THIS!!! Flash format is a complete and utter pain in the arse. It's the main reason why I want to hit youtube's servers with an EMP weapon. I have to convert them to some other format to watch them and the multiple stages of lossy encoding and decoding mean that the result is almost unwatchably cack. If you must do it then PLEASE also provide them in whatever format they were originally uploaded in.
Sounds very odd. They convert to Flash because it's the most commonly supported format. I figured I'd be doing the readers a favour by adopting a similar policy.
Trooper2 said:
agent006 said:
Pigeon said:
I have to convert them to some other format to watch them
Why?
He is probably copying them from the browser temp folder to save them on his hardrive...
It can still be done if in Flash but then you need to run them through a .flv file converter and it doesn't always work.
I don't have a flash plugin in the browser - loathsome obfuscated format which would require me to set up all sorts of extra blocking rules - and I don't watch videos in the browser anyway. The machine the browser runs on doesn't even have a working sound setup. I watch videos on a different machine (the one with the most memory and the fastest processor), where I retrieve them with wget and play them with mplayer. mplayer won't play .flv format so I have to transcode them first and the quality sucks - they take a quality hit from having been transcoded into .flv in the first place, and another being transcoded out of it.
Download your self a copy of FLV player its freeware.
www.download.com/FLV-Player/3000-2139_4-10467081.html
www.download.com/FLV-Player/3000-2139_4-10467081.html
Pigeon said:
I don't have a flash plugin in the browser - loathsome obfuscated format which would require me to set up all sorts of extra blocking rules - and I don't watch videos in the browser anyway. The machine the browser runs on doesn't even have a working sound setup. I watch videos on a different machine (the one with the most memory and the fastest processor), where I retrieve them with wget and play them with mplayer. mplayer won't play .flv format so I have to transcode them first and the quality sucks - they take a quality hit from having been transcoded into .flv in the first place, and another being transcoded out of it.
So there's no technical reason that prevents you from watching flash videos, you just choose not to.
agent006 said:
Pigeon said:
I don't have a flash plugin in the browser - loathsome obfuscated format which would require me to set up all sorts of extra blocking rules - and I don't watch videos in the browser anyway. The machine the browser runs on doesn't even have a working sound setup. I watch videos on a different machine (the one with the most memory and the fastest processor), where I retrieve them with wget and play them with mplayer. mplayer won't play .flv format so I have to transcode them first and the quality sucks - they take a quality hit from having been transcoded into .flv in the first place, and another being transcoded out of it.
So there's no technical reason that prevents you from watching flash videos, you just choose not to.
Exactly my thought.
I've used flash quite happily for yonks, and I don't see issues with it.
Some peopl go waaaaaay over the top to try and stay 'safe' when they completely forget that by just using some simple common sense you'll not get any 'security' issues...
I think people like to make a problem out of nothing especially when it comes to security, as Ted says, he would be doing his readers a favour by changing to flash, and additionally it's his business, whereupon he needs to appeal to the masses, and not be restricted just because some wierdo wants to use his completely open source *nix box.
I choose to use my computer setup in the way I want to use it, rather than being forced to use it in a particular way. I thought this site was supposed to be all in favour of freedom of choice And in any case there's still the point that transcoding the video into .flv format incurs a quality hit of itself, so it should be provided in the original format for that reason alone. Google video has been mentioned - let us note that while the "standard" Google video player is a wretched flash device, for those who don't use it they also provide the video for download in a non-evil format.
And in any case there's still the point that transcoding the video into .flv format incurs a quality hit of itself, so it should be provided in the original format for that reason alone. Google video has been mentioned - let us note that while the "standard" Google video player is a wretched flash device, for those who don't use it they also provide the video for download in a non-evil format.neil_cardiff said:
..., and not be restricted just because some wierdo wants to use his completely open source *nix box.
I support hedonists, free thinkers and visionaries, people that you call 'wierdo'. Ted could provide the converted Flash movie by default, and a link to download the file in the original format. One line of extra code, and appeal to all. How's that?
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