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Ash M400

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3,836 posts

242 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Please keep this to yourselves, the Noble guys don't know that I am thinking of changing.

Here is what I am considering.

Your comments are more than welcome, in fact, needed as I know very little about the marque. Apart from Porche are bullet proof.

www.pistonheads.com/sales/86596.htm

Kind regards

Ash.

Irish

3,991 posts

240 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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GT2

very different to a Noble. Classic case of the Noble feeling faster because it is more raw and go-kart like. You should try a GT3 RS too (if you are into track work, back roads bliss and you live 100 miles away from a speed bump

s3am

1,383 posts

253 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Hi Ash,

The car you are looking at is being discussed here:

www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?t=290365&f=48&h=0

I moved from 3R to GT3 and have not regretted it. Occasionally I miss the little blue Noble but overall the GT3 is just more suitable to me right now, and it has a sound to kill for.

The GT2 will I'm sure be a fantastic car on road and track, and sh!tting fast too!

Sam

Edited by s3am on Friday 21st July 18:46

Neilpeel59

279 posts

220 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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stunning car, you lucky chap :-)

cwin

953 posts

220 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Hi Ash

I bought one myself last month and can vouch for the fact that they are F*****g awesom you will have to have the grin surgically removed.Don't belive all that widow making Boll**ks they just need RESPECT.
If you try you will buy.

Regards

Craig

rob05

1,194 posts

229 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Great car,not sure about bullet proof if you were referring to the engines that is.

Ash M400

Original Poster:

3,836 posts

242 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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rob05 said:
Great car,not sure about bullet proof if you were referring to the engines that is.


could you expand please?

I do not want to be worried about expensive re-builds. I tend to push rather than relax.

grant3

3,638 posts

256 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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GT2 & TT engines have a good reputation for reliability, based on GT1 race block, but there have been issues, two engines in Purely Porsches long termer for example! My TT had over £3ks worth of warranty work on the engine. Generally they are pretty bullet proof, but better safe than sorry!

Bottom line is DON't buy without a full OPC check & buy the official Porsche warranty, it is only £750 & is a no brainer on a GT2, new engines are VERY expensive!

rob05

1,194 posts

229 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Second that.

Ash M400

Original Poster:

3,836 posts

242 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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grant3 said:
GT2 & TT engines have a good reputation for reliability, based on GT1 race block, but there have been issues, two engines in Purely Porsches long termer for example! My TT had over £3ks worth of warranty work on the engine. Generally they are pretty bullet proof, but better safe than sorry!

Bottom line is DON't buy without a full OPC check & buy the official Porsche warranty, it is only £750 & is a no brainer on a GT2, new engines are VERY expensive!


Point taken.

If the deal is right, it will have to have the additional warranty.

Thanks all for your valuable comments.

jdh1

1,015 posts

240 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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I had both at the same time...GT2 and Noble. Still have Noble, GT2 gone. Suppose it depends what you want. Gt2 much faster in a straight line but a lot less fun overall. Much harder riding too. But much more 'solid' and 'finished'. I'm confusing myself now! You need to drive one though. The ride could be a deal breaker for many people.

Ash M400

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3,836 posts

242 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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jdh1 said:
I had both at the same time...GT2 and Noble. Still have Noble, GT2 gone. Suppose it depends what you want. Gt2 much faster in a straight line but a lot less fun overall. Much harder riding too. But much more 'solid' and 'finished'. I'm confusing myself now! You need to drive one though. The ride could be a deal breaker for many people.


Thanks for the input.

My problem is that everytime I use the power of the Noble, little things seem to go wrong.

They all add up, I love my M400 and if I could afford it, would have both.

The Roush exhaust has let the engine rev now, however, at what cost?

Porsche is a precision made machine and I think that driving the way I do, will more than make up for the slight drop in performane, if any. (I suspect the GT2 would be the better).

DanH

12,287 posts

261 months

Saturday 22nd July 2006
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Ash M400 said:
jdh1 said:
I had both at the same time...GT2 and Noble. Still have Noble, GT2 gone. Suppose it depends what you want. Gt2 much faster in a straight line but a lot less fun overall. Much harder riding too. But much more 'solid' and 'finished'. I'm confusing myself now! You need to drive one though. The ride could be a deal breaker for many people.


Thanks for the input.

My problem is that everytime I use the power of the Noble, little things seem to go wrong.

They all add up, I love my M400 and if I could afford it, would have both.

The Roush exhaust has let the engine rev now, however, at what cost?

Porsche is a precision made machine and I think that driving the way I do, will more than make up for the slight drop in performane, if any. (I suspect the GT2 would be the better).


I don't think there will be any drop in performance with a GT2 mate, although a 911 requires a different driving technique which will take a bit of time to adjust to.

You need to testdrive this and the RS I reckon. I think you may go for the GT2 though as the torque gives you that immediate rush and on road is good fun. The GT3 didn't immediately feel as quick as my M12 GT03 did, but on track is definitely faster. Compared to the m400, I'm not entirely sure which is faster out of the RS or Washys m400 (with Roush etc) - it was bloody close, but we never ran the same grip level tyres.

Obviously I picked the GT3 over the GT2. I decided it was a better car to develop my skills in, and I fancied a change from turbos. Not to mention that the RS is such a special looking car compared to any other 996 (imho) which was all icing on the cake. That ridiculous cage and extinguisher etc all adds to the 'specialness' of saddling up for a drive.

mbutchers

691 posts

221 months

Saturday 22nd July 2006
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Ash M400 said:
jdh1 said:
I had both at the same time...GT2 and Noble. Still have Noble, GT2 gone. Suppose it depends what you want. Gt2 much faster in a straight line but a lot less fun overall. Much harder riding too. But much more 'solid' and 'finished'. I'm confusing myself now! You need to drive one though. The ride could be a deal breaker for many people.


Thanks for the input.

My problem is that everytime I use the power of the Noble, little things seem to go wrong.

They all add up, I love my M400 and if I could afford it, would have both.

The Roush exhaust has let the engine rev now, however, at what cost?

Porsche is a precision made machine and I think that driving the way I do, will more than make up for the slight drop in performane, if any. (I suspect the GT2 would be the better).
I think you've hit the nail on the head here.....
My mate had a 3R at the same time I had my GT2 - performance wise, there wasn't much in it up to well past legal speeds, the GT2 pulled away more at over 100mph.... The Noble had a fantastic ride too. The big let-down, was the quality and reliability - the front wheel fell off my mates car (same as in Autocar), so the much better made Porsche should do the job nicely.

grant3

3,638 posts

256 months

Sunday 23rd July 2006
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Sorry ASh, it must be the heat, the one thing I forgot to mention was the PCCB's (standard fot on the GT2). The first generation ceramic brakes have gained a bit of a reputation for potential problems, again it certainly doesn't affect the majority, but it a fairly worrying issue as they are about £5k an axle to replace. Ask GuyR. Of course if there are issues (& Porsche say they aren't ideal for extended track day use!!!..go figure for a track biased car)you can always change to steels all round.
BUT the point I was making is make sure you get them checked properly, as even a full set of steels with pads will be about £2k-ish for the whole car!

mc101

459 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd July 2006
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Ash

Welcome to the darkside :-) I defected a few months back from the 3R ...