Tyre choice Cups v Yoko A048R v Pirelli Corsa

[drhildr]

I am looking for a set of road legal track tyres for the GT2 - I can get Michelin Pilot Cups, Yokohama A048R and Pirelli Corsa all at much the same price and in the correct sizes. I am told by many that the Cups are the outright winner in performance with the Yoko's running them a close second.

But does anyone have any experience of relative performance and in particular wear rates. The Cups on my old CSL were great but lasted no time at all whereas the Yoko's have a deeper tread patter and others swear by the Corsa's.....

Bearing in mind that I need to drive home from a track day and wet eather has to be considered both on track and road....

Thanks

[polarexpress]

You forgot to add the new kid on the block... Toyo R888s significantly cheaper and reported performance by a few diehards is pretty good.

[flemke]

drhildr said:

I am looking for a set of road legal track tyres for the GT2 - I can get Michelin Pilot Cups, Yokohama A048R and Pirelli Corsa all at much the same price and in the correct sizes. I am told by many that the Cups are the outright winner in performance with the Yoko's running them a close second.

But does anyone have any experience of relative performance and in particular wear rates. The Cups on my old CSL were great but lasted no time at all whereas the Yoko's have a deeper tread patter and others swear by the Corsa's.....

Bearing in mind that I need to drive home from a track day and wet eather has to be considered both on track and road....

Thanks

Don't know about the Yoko's.

Cups offer somewhat better maximum grip in the dry than the Corsas do, but they're less good in the damp and downright dangerous in heavy rain.
The Corsas have a nicer feel than the Cups. You can sense their grip better, I would say, and they seem more progressive.
Cups will last longer than Corsas.

On a sporty road car that might occcasionally go on circuit I run Corsas.
On a car that is used on mainly on the circuit, and would go on public roads just to get to the circuit, I run Cups.

If your driving style employs a heavy right foot, I suspect that you wouldn't get much life out of either Cups or Corsas on the rear axle of a GT2 if you'd be driving in the sort of hot weather that Britain has had lately.

Sorry no experience with Yokos.

[DanH]

Corsa Systems or motorsports? There have been some recent cases of what looks like delamination on the motorsports when on GT3s. It may not be down to tyre construction, but I think I'd avoid them until the jury is in. Apparently Pirelli are blaming too much camber, but MPSCs don't seem to have a prob and one of the cars wasn't running anything too agressive and he's careful about tyre pressures when coming home from the track etc.

[drhildr]

Thanks - does anyone have a view on the Toyo's? Bear in mind that this is a car pushing 630bhp+ which can be tough on rear tyres, the Michelin Pilot Sports lasted just 3K miles with one Vmax and 3 track days.

[barrythompson]

CUPS, you will struggle at the moment - i have just bought some BBS race wheels to be shod with cups. Everybody is quoting me good money until they try to get hold of some - when they manage to source a set they want an extra £200!!!!!!!

Think i will be running corsas and put some cups on back order.

BT

[kiko]

drhildr said:

Thanks - does anyone have a view on the Toyo's? Bear in mind that this is a car pushing 630bhp+ which can be tough on rear tyres, the Michelin Pilot Sports lasted just 3K miles with one Vmax and 3 track days.

Thats not bad at all!!! I'm surprised they last an entire Track Day let alone 3 as they're DEFINATELY not meant to be driven on the track but do their job very well on the road.

I have an RS Tuning 508 bhp Turbo (soon RWD converted)and I have a 2nd set of wheels with Cups for the odd Track Day. The reason is that NOTHING beats a road tyre for the road and a track tyre for the track (just like pads and rotors for the same effect). This is true unless you use the car 80% on the track and use her very ramdomly on the road even then avoid rain at al cost and be carefull with puddles and the fact they can surprise you when not at operating temperatures. Add the fact you run out of heat cycles by using them on the road.