Wheel ideas...

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ericeash

Original Poster:

28 posts

254 months

Sunday 6th April 2003
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I've seen in previous posts where people were wanting an alternative to the factory wheels. Since I have some time before I buy my Ultima kit, I've started researching various parts and have found probably the best alternatives to the factory wheels. www.hrewheels.com Although these wheels are not cheaper than the factory wheels, their quality is outstanding and the selection is great. Just something to set your ultima apart from the rest.

>>> Edited by ericeash on Sunday 6th April 16:34

k wright

1,039 posts

260 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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Kinesis wheels in California knows the exact size of the factory wheels (they fit wheels for the Ultima dealer in the USA). They can make them any color you want. Forged centers.

ken

jschwartz

836 posts

259 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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I looked at alternative wheels and settled on the factory ones. The price is good, compared to anything I could find in the States, and I like the epoxy coating on the inside, which will make it easier to clean off the brake dust.

ericeash

Original Poster:

28 posts

254 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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i looked at the kinesis wheels and they're decent, not much of a selection though. i've just seen that a lot of people have spent a considerable amount on their ultima, so $1500 extra for nicer wheels shouldn't be too much. i also wax my wheels on my ducati and my truck and find that helps alot with cleaning. also, metal polish works like no other cleaner. i like the factory wheels, but they kinda look plain when compared to the hre wheels. i think the image wheels don't look as good as the factory wheels. of course i don't own an ultima yet so my opinions don't hold that much water.

eric

Vez

239 posts

259 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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Why dont you try IMAGE WHEELS:

www.imagewheels.co.uk

They "used" to be the official wheel supplier to the factory but apparently "werent round" so changed supplier?!?!

Very good quality, and can do custom designs too. They have some very nice wheels that resemble those on the Zonda-S too:

www.imagewheels.co.uk/pages/ev_page.html



>> Edited by Vez on Monday 7th April 16:23

kzrd

35 posts

254 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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Vez its a shame that you are still posting rumours instead of facts.
Can't wait to meet you at the Ultima Open Day to see your Ultima which is obviously in a completely different league to all of the others.

ericeash

Original Poster:

28 posts

254 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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yeah, like i said in my last post, image wheels just don't do it for me. i have seen an ultima with them on, but the spokes are a little different and therefore in my opinion don't look as good as the factory's. i guess we'll have to see when i order my ultima and i look at the wife and say, "Should I just buy the factory rims, or spend $4500 on some alternatives?" that will ultimately determine it.

eric

Vez

239 posts

259 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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Oh well, at least I tried, though I see very little difference between the Image ex-factory wheels, and the present ones. Like you say though its all down to personal opinion, as Im not keen on the factories 6 spoke wheels, as they dont look right with the five stud fitment!

ericeash

Original Poster:

28 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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it's just the slight difference in the spokes. on the image wheels the spokes are a little pointed instead of straight and in my opinion look less agressive. if you go to the owners gallery on CJ's site and click on the yellow GTR, you'll notice the difference right away.

Vez

239 posts

259 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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Yeah just looked, the difference is subtle. Still think that style of wheel with five (or even seven) instead of six spokes would look the business.

ericeash

Original Poster:

28 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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agreed. now to my next topic...

Alan 2

162 posts

265 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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When choosing wheels for an Ultima (or any other car for that matter), it shouldn't be down simply to what they look like. The quality of the wheels, metallurgically, is much more important and this is particularly the case with high performance cars like the Ultima. "Cheap" alloy wheels are usually made from "secondary" aluminium, which is essentially scrap aluminium melted down in a furnace and then refined to remove most (but not all) of the impurities. Some of these impurities can significantly lower the strength and fatigue resistance of the base material.

Having said that, there is nothing wrong with using secondary aluminium if you're making, say, door handles or even car wheels if the material is thick enough and you don't mind the extra weight, but in highly stressed components such as the wheels of a high performance car, I would always buy from a manufacturer who uses "primary" aluminium as the base material. This is essentially pure aluminium to which other appropriate alloying elements (silicon, magnesium, etc) are added during the foundry process. Obviously, the level of impurities in such material is virtually zero, as a consequence of which, primary aluminium is much more expensive that the secondary variety. This is why two wheels which may look more or less the same, can have a substantial cost difference.

The above is an over simplification of what is quite a complicated subject and that is without even mentioning cast versus forged wheels. If it's of any interest, I've bought the factory wheels for my GTR which should be on the road in about ten years at the rate I seem to be building it. We then get into "age hardening" and a new set of problems.

Neil Albaugh

1 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2003
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I've used Jongbloed wheels on my Manta Mirage and I recommend them highly. They are a three-piece modular design; two spun aluminum rims with a magnesium center section. Needless to say, they are very lightweight but not inexpensive. There are many different center section styles to choose from.