RE: Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera

RE: Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera

Wednesday 28th March 2007

Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera

The Raging Bull sharpens its horns. Andy Enright waves the red rag.


The Gallardo Superleggera
The Gallardo Superleggera

Turn six at Phoenix International Raceway seems innocuous enough. It’s a long, opening hairpin right with a scabby section of grooved tarmac bang on the apex but the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera and this corner don’t get along. Every lap sees the lightweight Gallardo introduce another part of its handling repertoire on this same stretch of blacktop. Mild understeer, four-wheel drift, spiky jabs of oversteer – if you didn’t like what it did last time round, have another go and it’ll likely do something different. Chassis engineers would describe the cause of these symptoms as a ‘mid corner yaw gain moment.’


The Superleggera never promised to be wholly benign, despite the apparent safety net of all-wheel drive and a standard switchable ESP stability control package. The key component in the car’s edginess on poor surfaces is the rubber it’s connected to the road with. The Pirelli P-Zero Corsa is a far more aggressive tyre than the regular P-Zero fitted to the standard Gallardo and the increased sidewall stiffness of the Corsa does more than the subtle upgrade to the shock absorbers to change the car’s handling attitude. When surface grip levels suddenly reduce, the Corsas can let go with an abrupt twang rather than a buttery slide, although they’re excellent – and eerily quiet - on decent tarmac where they generate almost nauseating levels of lateral grip.

Many would maintain that a Lamborghini should demand a modicum of respect and the Gallardo has, in the eyes of some unreconstructed old-schoolers, seen Sant’Agata develop a car that’s almost too accessible. The figures indeed bear testament to its broad appeal. In its first two years on sale, the Gallardo shifted more units than the Diablo did in a decade. As a result, 2006 has been the most profitable year in Lamborghini’s history and 2007 will be better. The full 350 car first year production run of Superleggeras has already sold out with orders now stacking up into 2008/09. 

Lighter and meaner

It’s easy to dismiss this car as a piece of expensive


one-upmanship and the figures are intriguing. The price premium that Lamborghini charges over the standard Gallardo is a bigger differential than between, say, a 911 Carrera2 S and a GT3 RS. Where Porsche shaves 45kg off the weight of the mainstream car, Lamborghini excises a massive 100kg from the Gallardo’s dry weight, although the 1,330kg Superleggera can’t boast the same step up in comparative power. Standard power to weight ratios aren’t easy to directly compare thanks to Lamborghini’s rather disingenuous quotation of dry weights, the car measured with no liquids whatsoever. Existing Gallardo owners know that their car’s 1,430kg ‘dry’ weight in fact translates to a figure closer to 1,520kg when oiled, watered and juiced up.

The excess flab has largely been shorn from the interior, with the replacement of the standard Gallardo seats for beautiful monocoque carbon fibre sports seats being the key change. In the mid-nineties, Lamborghini’s then-owners, the Suhartos, invested heavily in carbon-fibre autoclaves at the factory and since then Sant’Agata has become a centre of excellence for carbon-fibre fabrication. It’s everywhere on the Gallardo Superleggera, from the engine cover to the sleek door mirrors. The doors, the transmission tunnel, the rear diffuser and the rear wing are also finished in carbon fibre. Don’t worry if


you didn’t like the rather aftermarket look of the high rear wing as it’s a £3,100 option. The standard wing is a subtler item that can be adjusted for varying angles of attack. The 15-spoke Skorpius forged rims use titanium wheel nuts to shave a few grammes off the overall weight. An interior carbon package, carbon ceramic brakes, four-point harnesses and a tubular frame system to mount the harnesses to are also on the options list. Four colours are offered – Midas Yellow, Borealis Orange, Noctis Black and the rather uninspiring Telesto Grey. The redesigned instrument panel with white clocks and busy red lettering isn’t the clearest.

In the engine room


The engine’s breathing has been improved, both on inlet and exhaust sides, and the ECU has been gently recalibrated to boost power by 10hp to 522hp at 8,000rpm, lifting the power to weight ratio figure close to 400bhp per tonne, a target figure Ferrari will no doubt have pencilled onto the design objectives for the forthcoming F430 Challenge Stradale. The objective gains are small, with 0.2s knocked off the sprint to 62mph where the Superleggera now trips the clock at just 3.8s. The top speed is unaffected at 195.7mph and the torque figure also remains constant at 510Nm at 4,250rpm. What has changed is the engine note which is now even more gloriously addictive at the upper ranges, the V10 now sounding harder-edged and with the volume turned up a notch or two. The minor downside is a droning harmonic in sixth at motorway cruising speeds absent from the standard Gallardo.

As long as you don’t expect 911-style dialogue, the


steering is virtually beyond reproach, making it easy to place this Lambo accurately. Ride quality is excellent as well, with special praise directed at the Superleggera’s brilliant rebound damping. Stability control interventions are soft and well-judged. Body control is similarly impressive, the rigid Gallardo chassis specialising at feeling ‘underneath you’ at all times, right up to that point when it spectacularly isn’t. There’s not the organic, sinewy feel of an F430 or the subtly telegraphed weight shifts of a GT3 here. Instead the Superleggera feels stiff and foursquare. Tiptoe just beyond the limit and it can feel ragged. Deliberately monster it as you might an Evo IX and it pays back.

On the Gallardo, the manual gearbox is a standard fit item, with the e-gear sequential manual box tacking another £7,000 onto the car’s price. With the Superleggera, cars with e-gear and manual boxes are priced identically, so Lamborghini are rather cheekily asking manual owners to subsidise e-gear purchasers. If you are decided on the e-gear system, it narrows the price differential between the two cars markedly.


The e-gear box is quick but still a little rough around the edges, slamming through the gears with some driveline shock when set into sport mode. The change paddles are also a little smaller than would be ideal, with many testers flashing the lights or washing the screen when fumbling for the wand on the exit to a tight corner. It’s got quite a personality when set to full automatic as well, throwing in the odd spectacularly flamboyant throttle blip just to make sure you’re paying attention. Once you’ve mastered the change from second to third, the manual car is virtually beyond reproach. Apart from the nagging suspicion that Lamborghini has chiselled you for £7,000.

Unless you’re going to be subjecting the Superleggera to some pitiless track work, we’d skip the carbon ceramic brake option. This setup weighs no less than the steel discs, stops no quicker and has a worryingly weighty dead spot at the top of the pedal travel that led to several heart-in-mouth moments in the downtown Phoenix traffic.


Verdict

Anything based on a Lamborghini Gallardo is going to be a fantastic thing but the Superleggera package is not without caveats. Standard fit electric windows, air conditioning, ESP and options that include rear view parking cameras, sat nav and multimedia systems do not smack of unyielding focus and despite the weight loss plan, the Gallardo’s power to weight gain isn’t great when gauged against the incremental expense. For some, this will matter little. They will want the most capable car Lamborghini makes and this is undoubtedly it. What it manifestly isn’t is the true featherweight that many of us had hoped for; the car with a roll cage, shorn of the luxuries, with a 25:75 rear-drive bias and packing another 75bhp amidships.

As it stands, the Gallardo Superleggera is a tough car to preside over. While aspects of it send mixed messages, it still contrives to be the best car in its class by some margin. A beautiful artifice it may be, but it’s nevertheless jaw-slackeningly desirable. Especially in Borealis Orange.

"jaw-slackeningly desirable"
"jaw-slackeningly desirable"

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Discussion

Sharief

Original Poster:

6,338 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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Nice write up.

Not sure about the SL, though. I thought it was supposed to be bare, rollcages, and hardly padded sports seats. But there we go... I guess the playboys wouldn't be happy without their toys.

bad_roo

5,187 posts

237 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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I came away from the Superleggera with the same mixed feelings I had from the M3 CSL. It's churlish to be harsh on something so damned capable but at the same time I felt it was somewhat overpriced and that most of its added dry tarmac capability came courtesy of the rubberwear.

henrus

2 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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that's too bad about the SL. i am on the list for it (i have an '06 G), but now have second thoughts. i was also disappointed that they didn't go 2 wheel drive. not sure why they are being so stubborn on that point (other than insurance costs). are you able to turn off ESP completely? on the standard car, even when off, it isn't really off. i'm also surprised about your comment re: carbon brakes. i thought the benefit was that it has little to no fade compared to steel brakes over time (the standard brakes will fade after several hard laps around the track). to me, the most damning piece is the fact that the car sounds like it's twitchy and unpredictable at the limit. i used to have an NSX that was also that way and didn't like it. makes a guy want to go get a porsche or ferrari!

bad_roo

5,187 posts

237 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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henrus - if you are intent on tracking the SL, then the carbon brakes are the way to go. They're not that pleasant on the road and Winkelmann himself told me they were no more effective in terms of outright stopping distances. The ESP stability control is totally killable, as evidenced by some rather spectacular slides! As regards the car's handling, it's largely down to the lack of progression in the tyre. It offers amazing grip but precious little feedback that you're about to breach the lateral grip limit. As you probably know with your car, catching slides in the Gallardo isn't too much of a problem if you instigate them purposefully or if you're sufficiently at one with your vehicle to know when they're about to occur. The problem with the P-Zero Corsa (and, inevitably, a test driver with a finite amount of Gallardo seat time) is that you're often reacting behind the curve.

Despite campaigning a RWD racing Murcielago, Lamborghini are very firm about the company's commitment to four-wheel drive super sports cars, seeing it as a crucial differentiating point versus Ferrari. Rumour has it that a rear-wheel drive Gallardo has been tried and rejected.

The Superleggera in standard trim is probably a better road and track car than the standard Gallardo but it's a lot of money for a modest increase in ability. It's possible to option it up to the nines and easily fork out over £160k on one (and many will) but it'll never be as hardcore as many of us wanted. For a company that proclaims its extremity as stridently as Lamborghini, this strikes me as a shame. It's also worth remembering that the weight loss for US customers is 70kg rather than 106kg due to the fact that Lambo would have to regain type approval for the car if they were to ditch the seats with side airbags.

Unless spotting a Superleggera is really going to ruin your day, I'd stick with your current car. It's just beautiful.


Edited by bad_roo on Wednesday 28th March 06:37

Lord-Flasheart

6,630 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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In love with it cloud9

deviant

4,316 posts

210 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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I want to sex it

gallardoguy

8,160 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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how can a carbon brake set up weigh the same as the standard set up?

its also rather foolish of them to admit the stopping distances are the same!

so all in all whats the point!

BTW what does the interior carbon fibre option consist of, if the interior is mostly carbon fibre anyway?

crikeymikey

1,093 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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gallardoguy said:
how can a carbon brake set up weigh the same as the standard set up?

its also rather foolish of them to admit the stopping distances are the same!

so all in all whats the point!

BTW what does the interior carbon fibre option consist of, if the interior is mostly carbon fibre anyway?


I agree with your comments re: the brakes. The discs will weigh less than half a cast iron disc, so weight savings are unavoidable in this area.

The interior saves weight by adopting Alcantara instead of leather, door cards are carbon and the seats weigh very little compared to stock. The carbon pack (which is standard in the Superleggera, but optional on the stock car) won't save any weight atall. The entertainment system is also optional, either nothing or SatNav. The crappy tape player based system has been junked.

traxx

3,143 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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gallardoguy said:
how can a carbon brake set up weigh the same as the standard set up?

its also rather foolish of them to admit the stopping distances are the same!

so all in all whats the point!

BTW what does the interior carbon fibre option consist of, if the interior is mostly carbon fibre anyway?



My Gallardo has standard brakes and I've driven Gallardo cars with the CCB
There is just no way the stopping distance is the same, the CC brakes are far better

Although I hate to admit it, the CC brakes in my 430 are also much better than the Lambo CC brakes

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Lower unsprung and slightly lower wheel inertia probably make the CC brakes that bit more responsive and have a little less energy to dissipate...

Dave

gallardoguy

8,160 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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mike, your current post count is quite apt, being a lambo owner...

crikeymikey

1,093 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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gallardoguy said:
mike, your current post count is quite apt, being a lambo owner...

666. Cool! Ofcourse, this has now been ruined by this post. Dammit! laugh

Doug. Interesting comment, mate. As Brembo supply the brakes to both manufacturers we can only assume the difference in performance is down to the extra inertia of the front wheel transmission. Either that or there's some difference in servo/master cylinder setup. scratchchin

mhh

1,558 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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I'm not sure I understand the reviewer's comments about the Corsa tyres. I've driven over 30,000km on Corsa tyres on Gallardos and find them very progressive with nicer feel than the stock Pirelli tyres and not at all scary. Obviously I'm not going fast enough.


Edited by mhh on Wednesday 28th March 12:28

swoll

18,337 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Seems very pricey to me, once optioned up not that much cheaper than an LP640.

Still waiting for F430 Challenge Stradale personally.

Dr S

4,997 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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[anorakon]Interesting comment on the weight figures as it seems to turn into industry practice for the track models. Porsche play the same game with the GT3's nowadays and quote dry weight...[/anorakoff]

GT2man-2

1,042 posts

255 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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I suspect if you're capable of stretching to £160K for a Gallardo then £190 or so for a Murcielago isn't a quantum leap in pricing, and that's what I'd go for.

bad_roo

5,187 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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The thing about the brakes quite surprised me. Lamborghini quoted stopping distances for the Superleggera and I asked whether they were for the carbon brakes or steel rotors. Winkelmann (and another senior engineer) said that braking distances were the same regardless which setup you chose and the reason the two assemblies weighed the same was because the carbon brakes were bigger. The sole advantage, he claimed, was fade resistance. All of the test cars were equipped with the carbon brakes, but I have driven Gallardos with steels. If I was forced to stake my house on it, I'd say the carbons stop better, but Lamborghini seems to think otherwise.


Edited by bad_roo on Wednesday 28th March 15:59

jeremyc

23,430 posts

284 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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bad_roo said:
The thing about the brakes quite surprised me. Lamborghini quoted stopping distances for the Superleggera and I asked whether they were for the carbon brakes or steel rotors. Winkelmann (and another senior engineer) said that braking distances were the same regardless which setup you chose and the reason the two assemblies weighed the same was because the carbon brakes were bigger. The sole advantage, he claimed, was fade resistance. All of the test cars were equipped with the carbon brakes, but I have driven Gallardos with steels. If I was forced to stake my house on it, I'd say the carbons stop better, but Lamborghini seems to think otherwise.
Surely the braking distances are determined by the grip provided by the tyre-road interface (assuming that both setups are sufficient to lock wheels), which will be the same for both steel and carbon brakes.

The only advantage therefore will be the ability of the carbon brakes to withstand more applications without overheating and fading.

There may be some advantage in the carbon brakes being lighter and so enabling the (reduced) unsprung and rotating mass to be slowed quicker, but in this instance they claim that the larger carbon brakes remove any weight advantage.



Edited by jeremyc on Wednesday 28th March 16:05

grant.d

1,258 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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deviant said:
I want to sex it


laugh

henrus

2 posts

205 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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bad_roo said:
henrus - if you are intent on tracking the SL, then the carbon brakes are the way to go. They're not that pleasant on the road and Winkelmann himself told me they were no more effective in terms of outright stopping distances. The ESP stability control is totally killable, as evidenced by some rather spectacular slides! As regards the car's handling, it's largely down to the lack of progression in the tyre. It offers amazing grip but precious little feedback that you're about to breach the lateral grip limit. As you probably know with your car, catching slides in the Gallardo isn't too much of a problem if you instigate them purposefully or if you're sufficiently at one with your vehicle to know when they're about to occur. The problem with the P-Zero Corsa (and, inevitably, a test driver with a finite amount of Gallardo seat time) is that you're often reacting behind the curve.

Despite campaigning a RWD racing Murcielago, Lamborghini are very firm about the company's commitment to four-wheel drive super sports cars, seeing it as a crucial differentiating point versus Ferrari. Rumour has it that a rear-wheel drive Gallardo has been tried and rejected.

The Superleggera in standard trim is probably a better road and track car than the standard Gallardo but it's a lot of money for a modest increase in ability. It's possible to option it up to the nines and easily fork out over £160k on one (and many will) but it'll never be as hardcore as many of us wanted. For a company that proclaims its extremity as stridently as Lamborghini, this strikes me as a shame. It's also worth remembering that the weight loss for US customers is 70kg rather than 106kg due to the fact that Lambo would have to regain type approval for the car if they were to ditch the seats with side airbags.

Unless spotting a Superleggera is really going to ruin your day, I'd stick with your current car. It's just beautiful.


Edited by bad_roo on Wednesday 28th March 06:37


thanks for the detailed response. i tend to agree that it's not worth the difference in performance. when fully optioned up (the larger tail is $5k+ and the seats--which you have to buy separately in the U.S.--are $7.5k), it is north of $260k. suddenly, you are in F430 Challange (dedicated track car) territory. my guess on the 2wheel drive issue is that Lambo realized that the handling with so much HP on 2wheels would not be great without some sort of "manettino-type" system that exists on the Ferrari (both for insurance and feature comparison reasons). so the cheapest, fastest, safest way to go was to stick with 4wheel drive. that's too bad. i also hoped that they would have finally gotten rid of the Audi parts-bin interior pieces in the center console for '08, but i suppose that's a way off still.

thanks again for the review!



Edited by henrus on Thursday 29th March 00:49