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Martin Keene

9,417 posts

225 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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flemke said:
For the 5000th post on this thread, I thought I'd share this:

bow

Flemke, my I ask where the disc orginates from? My guess would be Enzo, top line Porsche, etc.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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Martin Keene said:
flemke said:
For the 5000th post on this thread, I thought I'd share this:

bow

Flemke, my I ask where the disc orginates from? My guess would be Enzo, top line Porsche, etc.
Nfw, my friend. I would not sully my car with such pedestrian contrivances.
Seriously, for their road cars Ferrari, Porsche and everyone else use carbon-ceramic composite disc material.
This is carbon/carbon, which weighs half as much as carbon-ceramic, and does not have the heat-spike vulnerability (well, it does, but at a much higher threshold). Also, with carbon-ceramic, you have got to have a servo, but not with this.

nonuts

15,855 posts

229 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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I was about to ask if those needed a servo hehe

Does this mean when it's all back together all of your mods will also be finished?

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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nonuts said:
I was about to ask if those needed a servo hehe

Does this mean when it's all back together all of your mods will also be finished?
At present the car is on iron discs. After the factory finishes its thing, we'll fit the above and then I think we'll be done.

Martin Keene

9,417 posts

225 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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flemke said:
Martin Keene said:
flemke said:
For the 5000th post on this thread, I thought I'd share this:

bow

Flemke, my I ask where the disc orginates from? My guess would be Enzo, top line Porsche, etc.
Nfw, my friend. I would not sully my car with such pedestrian contrivances.
Seriously, for their road cars Ferrari, Porsche and everyone else use carbon-ceramic composite disc material.
This is carbon/carbon, which weighs half as much as carbon-ceramic, and does not have the heat-spike vulnerability (well, it does, but at a much higher threshold). Also, with carbon-ceramic, you have got to have a servo, but not with this.
Oh, interesting. As I understood it, the heat required to make carbon-carbon brakes work effectively means they were a non-starter for roads use?

stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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flemke said:
nonuts said:
I was about to ask if those needed a servo hehe

Does this mean when it's all back together all of your mods will also be finished?
At present the car is on iron discs. After the factory finishes its thing, we'll fit the above and then I think we'll be done.
Maybe some adjustment to the nut behind the wheel?

Soovy

35,829 posts

271 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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flemke said:
nonuts said:
I was about to ask if those needed a servo hehe

Does this mean when it's all back together all of your mods will also be finished?
At present the car is on iron discs. After the factory finishes its thing, we'll fit the above and then I think we'll be done.
What then, sir?

Surely once the car is done, you'll lose interest....!!

hehe




deevlash

10,442 posts

237 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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all it'll need then is a nice, tasteful mansory interior, from ph news today


dinkel

26,947 posts

258 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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Suitable for a porn shoot . . . Poor taste to the max IMO.

KB_S1

5,967 posts

229 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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RE: The mansorry interior.

Buck Rogers in the 25th century!

Frik

13,542 posts

243 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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flemke said:
hurstg01 said:
flemke said:
Within 5 minutes of my crunchification last week, before the police had arrived, I was speaking with the man at McL. who oversees the F1s. He had known that I was going to be driving the car that day. He answered his phone with, "Hi, Flemke. Why do I have the feeling that you're not calling me with good news?"
If I bought an F1 that's the kind of service I'd like. Well done DH (?) - when I met him he was very courteous, knowledgeable and very business-like, just what I expected
It was his boss, a man with a secret workshop.
DH actually has changed jobs. He's now part of the new project, with managerial responsibilities for the Mideast sales agents. He should have moved out there by now.
Good for him! I've said it before but I've yet to meet a nicer bloke than DH.

I bet he's driven more F1s than anyone else too.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Martin Keene said:
flemke said:
Martin Keene said:
flemke said:
For the 5000th post on this thread, I thought I'd share this:

bow

Flemke, my I ask where the disc orginates from? My guess would be Enzo, top line Porsche, etc.
Nfw, my friend. I would not sully my car with such pedestrian contrivances.
Seriously, for their road cars Ferrari, Porsche and everyone else use carbon-ceramic composite disc material.
This is carbon/carbon, which weighs half as much as carbon-ceramic, and does not have the heat-spike vulnerability (well, it does, but at a much higher threshold). Also, with carbon-ceramic, you have got to have a servo, but not with this.
Oh, interesting. As I understood it, the heat required to make carbon-carbon brakes work effectively means they were a non-starter for roads use?
You are quite correct.
Like many problems, however, this one can be solved (not by me, but by a friend who sprinkles his proprietary magic dust on carbon/carbon discs, and has done so on more than one winning car in F1 this year).

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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stephen300o said:
flemke said:
nonuts said:
I was about to ask if those needed a servo hehe

Does this mean when it's all back together all of your mods will also be finished?
At present the car is on iron discs. After the factory finishes its thing, we'll fit the above and then I think we'll be done.
Maybe some adjustment to the nut behind the wheel?
Adjustment? More like replacement.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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contango said:
Fantastic engineering on the brake disc and bell..

If you had these fitted last week, would it have made any difference to the outcome or would ABS have been more beneficial?
Good question.
These discs would have made no difference whatever.
With ABS, however, there would have been no incident.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Soovy said:
flemke said:
nonuts said:
I was about to ask if those needed a servo hehe

Does this mean when it's all back together all of your mods will also be finished?
At present the car is on iron discs. After the factory finishes its thing, we'll fit the above and then I think we'll be done.
What then, sir?

Surely once the car is done, you'll lose interest....!!

hehe
The possibility has occurred to me, but more likely I'll just drive it some.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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deevlash said:
all it'll need then is a nice, tasteful mansory interior, from ph news today
Excellent suggestion.
Much has been made of the gold heat-shield film in the F1's engine bay. This interior scheme offers even more of a good thing.

Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Maybe that explains why Jimmy Saville wears a gold tracksuit?

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Frik said:
flemke said:
hurstg01 said:
flemke said:
Within 5 minutes of my crunchification last week, before the police had arrived, I was speaking with the man at McL. who oversees the F1s. He had known that I was going to be driving the car that day. He answered his phone with, "Hi, Flemke. Why do I have the feeling that you're not calling me with good news?"
If I bought an F1 that's the kind of service I'd like. Well done DH (?) - when I met him he was very courteous, knowledgeable and very business-like, just what I expected
It was his boss, a man with a secret workshop.
DH actually has changed jobs. He's now part of the new project, with managerial responsibilities for the Mideast sales agents. He should have moved out there by now.
Good for him! I've said it before but I've yet to meet a nicer bloke than DH.

I bet he's driven more F1s than anyone else too.
"Driving" in the literal sense of operating the controls and causing the car to move under its own power: yes, almost certainly. He was usually the man who was sent to distant corners of the globe to service cars that otherwise would not be touched from one year to the next. Some cars he would pretty much be the only person who has ever driven.
He would not be the man who has driven the most total miles in F1s, however. There is an independent development driver/consultant in the Midlands who has put an awful lot of miles on F1s, mostly in test facilities. He was mentioned, IIRC, in that recent set of evo articles.
Then there is the chap in southern England who's owned his car since it left the factory, and whose mileage now is definitely up there.

Frik

13,542 posts

243 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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For sure, F. I meant it how I said it. He's probably driven more different vehicles than anyone else.

He won't have as many miles under his belt as the latter gentleman though and lets face it, he's not got a hope in hell of growing such an impressive beard. Some people are just lucky I guess.

Stuart

11,635 posts

251 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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Jonathan Palmer and David Clark would have put some miles in too, surely?
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