Griff - everyday car?
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Gio G

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2,995 posts

239 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Currently doing around 6,000 miles a year max, mainly commuting to work and back. I drive Clio 182 Sport, which is fun, however feel the need for more power, noise and looks. Having owned a TVR in the past (V6 s) I know it won't be without problems, part of ownership and all that...

The question is, can I realistically run a Griff on that mileage everyday??

Spotted a nice one in the classifieds for around £10k, lowish mileage good condition etc.. Pound for performance, I guess I will not get anything else. Also been a big fan of the model since launch..

Appreciate views..

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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I ran a Chimaera for two years as a daily driver, covering over 30k in that period.

The winter can be tough, but if your bank balance can stand it, then why not..? Preventative maintainence is the key IMO.

profstoff

1,272 posts

257 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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I ran an S everyday for two years, now I'm running a Griff everyday. The only drawback is the cost of the fuel IMO these cars are better when they're driven than when they're tucked up warm and cosy in a garage.

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Mine was a bit more expensive and newer, but although I have a second car it was that that got a flat battery from lack of use I've done nearly 6k miles since I bought it in November and it's never missed a beat apart from losing coolant slowly. I'm having the rad recored as a preventative measure as mentioned above.
The only thing is the fuel (as above) as you you need to use Vpower or Optimax (up to 10p per litre more in some places) and particularily if you use it for short journeys.

Otherwise no problems apart from grinning inanly at everyone when you've got out of it


Edited by V8 GRF on Wednesday 25th April 14:55

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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V8 GRF said:
The only thing is the fuel (as above) as you you need to use Vpower or Optimax (up to 10p per litre more in some places) and particularily if you use it for short journeys.



er..? Why..?

Mine lived on a diet of BP/Tesco/Esso/whatever... rolling road figures split about a month apart showed NO performance benfit from running 97/98 over 95... and I was damned if I could tell the difference...

rev-erend

21,622 posts

314 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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The Clio 182 also should be run on super unleaded..

Sure the Griff will be a great everyday car at 6K miles a year .. go for it.

dnb

3,330 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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The Griff's still a great every day car at 20k miles a year...

corky

704 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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I average 9k per year in mine, worth every penny, you'll only regret it if you don't do it!

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Gio G said:
Currently doing around 6,000 miles a year max, mainly commuting to work and back. I drive Clio 182 Sport, which is fun, however feel the need for more power, noise and looks. Having owned a TVR in the past (V6 s) I know it won't be without problems, part of ownership and all that...

The question is, can I realistically run a Griff on that mileage everyday??

Spotted a nice one in the classifieds for around £10k, lowish mileage good condition etc.. Pound for performance, I guess I will not get anything else. Also been a big fan of the model since launch..

Appreciate views..
Yes.And the thing is.The more its used the more reliable it becomes.

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Podie said:
V8 GRF said:
The only thing is the fuel (as above) as you you need to use Vpower or Optimax (up to 10p per litre more in some places) and particularily if you use it for short journeys.



er..? Why..?

Mine lived on a diet of BP/Tesco/Esso/whatever... rolling road figures split about a month apart showed NO performance benfit from running 97/98 over 95... and I was damned if I could tell the difference...


Because that's what the Owners Handbook and sticker by the fuel filler says.

So unless you know better than the people who built it......rolleyes

dnb

3,330 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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All you (usually) need to do to run on 95 RON fuel is to back the timing off a bit. Sometimes it doesn't even need that. Mine's run happily on 95 RON fuel for years. There's no sign of det on the pistons, so I take that as proof positive I've done no harm in that respect.

(And yes, I probably do know more about my car than the people that ORIGINALLY built it)

Seasider

12,728 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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V8 GRF said:
Podie said:
V8 GRF said:
The only thing is the fuel (as above) as you you need to use Vpower or Optimax (up to 10p per litre more in some places) and particularily if you use it for short journeys.



er..? Why..?

Mine lived on a diet of BP/Tesco/Esso/whatever... rolling road figures split about a month apart showed NO performance benfit from running 97/98 over 95... and I was damned if I could tell the difference...


Because that's what the Owners Handbook and sticker by the fuel filler says.

So unless you know better than the people who built it......rolleyes






And for the OP, no reason why not as has been said before preventative maintenance is the key

Do it yourself, that way you know its been done

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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dnb said:
All you (usually) need to do to run on 95 RON fuel is to back the timing off a bit. Sometimes it doesn't even need that. Mine's run happily on 95 RON fuel for years. There's no sign of det on the pistons, so I take that as proof positive I've done no harm in that respect.

(And yes, I probably do know more about my car than the people that ORIGINALLY built it)


If you've modded it and know what you're doing that's fine but if it's standard then to go by the book is best the way IMO.
I suppose the point I was making was DIY is fine IF you know what you're doing and I guess we've all seen the results of those who don't. I guess I was also thinking in the spirit of the question of the OP.

Gio G

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2,995 posts

239 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Thanks guys..

So, does it need to be a 500? not wanting to start a war.. Seen a few pre cat 4 litres around.

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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V8 GRF said:
Podie said:
V8 GRF said:
The only thing is the fuel (as above) as you you need to use Vpower or Optimax (up to 10p per litre more in some places) and particularily if you use it for short journeys.



er..? Why..?

Mine lived on a diet of BP/Tesco/Esso/whatever... rolling road figures split about a month apart showed NO performance benfit from running 97/98 over 95... and I was damned if I could tell the difference...


Because that's what the Owners Handbook and sticker by the fuel filler says.

So unless you know better than the people who built it......rolleyes


The RV8 isn't exactly a new engine... it's agricultural at best. Anyway, the advice was given to me by specialists in the field who told me it's not worth it - I'm prepared to accept their word. I do, however, know a bit about fuel and where it is sourced and who buys what - you may be surprised at the differences (or lack thereof) in various retailers.

Just becuase something is written, does not mean you have to do it. All TVRs are supposed to be serviced by main dealers according to the handbook - how many still do that (or did prior to NS tinkering)..?

The book says you're supposed to use Mobil 1... a knowledgeable person who posts on here and KNOWS oil recommends something else - as do many service agents.

At the end of the day, you pays your money - you takes your choice.

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Gio G said:
Thanks guys..

So, does it need to be a 500? not wanting to start a war.. Seen a few pre cat 4 litres around.


Drive a few and make your own call. Get yuorself to a TVR meet.

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Podie said:


The RV8 isn't exactly a new engine... it's agricultural at best. Anyway, the advice was given to me by specialists in the field who told me it's not worth it - I'm prepared to accept their word. I do, however, know a bit about fuel and where it is sourced and who buys what - you may be surprised at the differences (or lack thereof) in various retailers.

Just becuase something is written, does not mean you have to do it. All TVRs are supposed to be serviced by main dealers according to the handbook - how many still do that (or did prior to NS tinkering)..?

The book says you're supposed to use Mobil 1... a knowledgeable person who posts on here and KNOWS oil recommends something else - as do many service agents.

At the end of the day, you pays your money - you takes your choice.


OK point taken.

I did try a lower Octane rating for a few top-ups and it did seem to make a difference.
But to follow your points, no I don't use a main dealer and no I don't use Mobil 1 for the same reasons as you.

Tildo430BV

67 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Gio,

On the 10-12k budget you may be better sourcing an earlier car 4.0 or 4.3 to give you the best chance to find a good-un. If you are running as a daily in the winter the usual winter pre-cautions with the chassis apply.

Otherwise - no problems really.

Best of luck

RedTuscan

230 posts

276 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Why would you want to commute in any 15 year old car, let alone a TVR? 15 year old cars are not reliable and mean big bills. For commuting you want something comfortable and reliable.

A 15 year old Griffith with the clutch that feels as if it is set in concrete, that will cook you in the summer, rain in during the winter and no doubt spit you off the road. Why?

Surely the sensible thing to do it to keep a Griffith for those B road blasts for pleasure during the sunny summer weekends?

Fire99

9,865 posts

259 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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RedTuscan said:
Why would you want to commute in any 15 year old car, let alone a TVR? 15 year old cars are not reliable and mean big bills. For commuting you want something comfortable and reliable.

A 15 year old Griffith with the clutch that feels as if it is set in concrete, that will cook you in the summer, rain in during the winter and no doubt spit you off the road. Why?

Surely the sensible thing to do it to keep a Griffith for those B road blasts for pleasure during the sunny summer weekends?


Couldn't disagree more.. (in a friendly way of course)
From experience with my Chim, i am more likely to have big bills if i don't use my Chim very frequently.
Yep Clutch is heavy but not unbearably so.. (a girl who works near me has been using one as a daily driver and she is no Swedish Shot-Putter)

Yes its not a new car but its also a simple car. If you dont mind fettling and you buy a nice one you shouldn't have too many issues.

And spit you off the road? Thats down to the driver. I was a little nervous when i bought my chim after hearing people say about them being wild etc. Its turned out the opposite. Its alot more controllable than my old Jap RWD turbo car, which i managed to spin twice..

TVR's are for driving. Not for wiping the dust off once in a while..