The Running Thread

[V8Wagon]

Aaaargh. I just clocked up my 300th run after starting running in July 2012 and my Garmin appears to have given up the ghost. Have any of you attempted to replace the battery in one?

[E65Ross]

V8Wagon said:

Aaaargh. I just clocked up my 300th run after starting running in July 2012 and my Garmin appears to have given up the ghost. Have any of you attempted to replace the battery in one?

No, but when the buttons on my Garmin failed after having it for about 5 years Garmin sent me a refurbished unit for about £50. Couldn't really argue. Although yours isn't that old...

[markh1973]

After having the beginning of the month off I have been back out there for the last week and a half.

Did only my second 10k race on Sunday in 46:59 (3 minutes slower than the time for my first but then thsi one was hilly whereas the first one was flat). Pleased with the time but really annoyed at myself for failing to actually execute the strategy that I had planned. Given that I wasn't intending to go out and run a PB I had planned to run the first half in 25 minutes and then try and run the hillier second half faster. Instead of which race adrenalin took over and I ran the first half in 22:30 with a slower second half. A couple of days on and I am less annoyed with myself and will try and avoid the same mistake next time.

Club run last night was around 7 miles but with significantly less trail than we have been doing over the summer due to the light fading so quickly. Towards the end we did a measured mile - 6:03 according to Strava which is the fastest I have done a mile (even if it was slightly downhill) so pleased with that.

Being conscious of not overdoing it I have binned today's intervals, will do an easy run of 5 miles or so tomorrow then intervals on Sat and have a planned easy run of about 12 miles for Sunday (out and around Bruntingthorpe from my SiL's house in Lutterworth). That will be the longest I have run on my own so will have to see how it goes.

[E65Ross]

lepetitoeuf said:

Last night was my first 13 mile run home from work of the week with 2 x 3 mile tempo sections @85% MHR, it was hard but good. Running home from work has really opened up some mileage opportunities for me as well as saving time.

I've also discovered I've developed an addiction... I ran out of this stuff 2 weeks ago, so decided to stop using it after runs and just go cold turkey. But last week I was getting back from runs and craving it desperately, so either it really works, or they've sneaked some valium or morphine into it

I swear by REGO. It's fantastic stuff. In fact, I ordered more yesterday and will be delivered today! I don't use it that often at the moment (just after long runs and speed sessions) but I remember when training loads I used it after literally every session and felt fantastic.

Sounds odd but I used to soak porridge oats in water overnight (instead of milk) and cook them asap after a run and jut before it was finished I'd stir in a portion or rego.... Banana flavour porridge

[Sarkmeister]

E65Ross said:

I swear by REGO. It's fantastic stuff. In fact, I ordered more yesterday and will be delivered today! I don't use it that often at the moment (just after long runs and speed sessions) but I remember when training loads I used it after literally every session and felt fantastic.

Sounds odd but I used to soak porridge oats in water overnight (instead of milk) and cook them asap after a run and jut before it was finished I'd stir in a portion or rego.... Banana flavour porridge

Same here, I generally use it after any runs over an hours. It's especially useful straight after an event when it's difficult to get a decent meal in the 30-45 mins that is recommended. Difficult to confirm the exact different it makes, but I'm sure it makes me recover quicker.

Need to buy some more actually, anyone found a cheap source?

[E65Ross]

Sarkmeister said:

E65Ross said:

I swear by REGO. It's fantastic stuff. In fact, I ordered more yesterday and will be delivered today! I don't use it that often at the moment (just after long runs and speed sessions) but I remember when training loads I used it after literally every session and felt fantastic.

Sounds odd but I used to soak porridge oats in water overnight (instead of milk) and cook them asap after a run and jut before it was finished I'd stir in a portion or rego.... Banana flavour porridge

Same here, I generally use it after any runs over an hours. It's especially useful straight after an event when it's difficult to get a decent meal in the 30-45 mins that is recommended. Difficult to confirm the exact different it makes, but I'm sure it makes me recover quicker.

Need to buy some more actually, anyone found a cheap source?

Wiggle are pretty good. Though they are out of strawberry or chocolate at the moment. I've got loads of strawberry left but I like having both strawberry and banana so I have a choice. Didn't like chocolate or vanilla

[E65Ross]

lepetitoeuf said:

I also buy from Wiggle, normally about the cheapest around if you stick to free 3-5 day delivery.

Indeed. Got my banana flavour REGO today

I'm going camping in the Lake District next week and I'm planning on going running most days - I'm definitely going to take a small container with 250-300g of REGO to keep me going

My mate who I'm going with wants to do some walking....but he's only an inch or so taller than me (I'm only 5ft6") and he weighs 16stone8lbs!!! I weigh 8 stone 9lbs ) so my plan is running in the mornings and walking later with him; don't think he'll be joining me on the runs haha.

I was in a cycling shop the other day and noticed that they now stock CNP nutrition stuff and had a look at their recovery drink and on the back of it it looks quite good. Chunk more protein than REGO does but also a fair bit more expensive (certainly as you can get REGO for <£20 for 1.6kgs) but I'd like to know whether it's actually better or not. I do also have a protein whey powder which I have occasionally added in with some REGO as well (e.g. insteady of 50g REGO I may use 35-40g and 10-15g whey protein) to increase the protein content....usually after more speed work.

Do you ever use larger portions of REGO after especially long runs?

and yes - it's fantastic for after races!

Edited by E65Ross on Wednesday 20th August 20:28

[andrewparker]

Anyone doing the Great North Run in 2 weeks? Will be my first half marathon race, and in my home city too. Massively excited, but hard to know what to expect. My long run is normally around 10 - 14 miles but I've never done it in a race situation. Very wary about setting out too fast!

[E65Ross]

lepetitoeuf said:

E65Ross said:

Do you ever use larger portions of REGO after especially long runs?

I always stick to a single 50ml dose. I recently noticed there is a high proten version - http://www.scienceinsport.com/sis-products/sis-all... - quite expensive at £48 for 1.2kg, and Wiggle don't stock it, but I would be tempted to try it if I could get it for a better price, then save it for after intervals/long tempo runs.

That version will be more for muscle mass development and a general boost to protein intake, it will not be as good for a recovery drink after a hard running session, especially when some big miles are concerned.

I did a half decent session this morning.

I wanted to increase the session mileage ever so slightly without doing too many more miles (long run tomorrow) so I did 2M warm up

2x1 mile off 60secs rest (6:01, 5:55)
3mins rest
2x1km off 60secs rest (5:42/mile, 5:40/mile)
3mins rest
4x200m off 30secs rest (average around 5:05/mile.....started blowing a bit!!)

Whilst rather pedestrian in pace to what I used to do, it's a definite improvement even over the last 4-6 weeks......my 1st session back was just 2x1miles off 75secs rest and averaged a little under 6:10/mile...

My sickness appears to have all but disappeared. I don't want to tempt fate but it's been over a week now since I've been sick. Still not feeling 100% but almost there. Now I can get back to proper training!!!!

[FairfieldSteve]

Went out for a 5k last night....I've gone from not being able to run, to doing 5k in 45minutes, to running 10k consistently, a half marathon and now a new PB of 27:28 for a 5k in a year.

Keeping at it!

[EdJ]

lepetitoeuf said:

I've been continuing to run to heart rates and found it quite relaxing. It means that on my long run, I keep my Garmin only on the heart rate screen, keeping it below 75% average and don't check my pace at all.

This achieves two things; firstly it removes any incentive to do the run either under a certain time, or to hit a certain pace, which could normally result in upping the intensity and therefore making the run less effective. Secondly, it gives a very good benchmark of your overall (aerobic?) fitness, as you can compare your average pace to previous runs at the same HR. Maintaining the same HR you would expect your average pace to get quicker as you train more, which is what I've seen.

I might try that (for variety if nothing else!)

When you say 75% average, you mean 75% of your max heart rate? Why do you pick that level? Sorry for the dumb questions, but I'm clueless about this stuff.

[E65Ross]

Nice 11.5 mile run this evening.

Half decent week so far

6.7 miles Monday, largely off road
Tuesday rest day
Wednesday steady 4.3
Thursday speed session as outlined in a previous post
Friday 11.5 miles
Tomorrow I'll probably rest

Sunday I plan on an LT session... Something like 2M warm up, 3miles at LT, 3mins rest, 1.5miles LT and then something like 4x200m off 30secs rest just to get some extra Tempo miles in.

[MC Bodge]

I'm still oot. Calf playing up.



Physio did some deep massage and stuck in some pins (felt effective, but might be snake oil) and suggested that my reduced ankle flexion (due to injury and post-op) might be contributing. He managed to make it mover further and gave me some exercises.

[E65Ross]

lepetitoeuf said:

FairfieldSteve said:

Went out for a 5k last night....I've gone from not being able to run, to doing 5k in 45minutes, to running 10k consistently, a half marathon and now a new PB of 27:28 for a 5k in a year.

Keeping at it!

That deserves a big hand

Indeed. Well done that man.

I did jinx my bloody stomach problem after all, I was sick twice this morning! Felt a bit bloated all day but still managed that long run. I'll keep increasing the long run mileage now but not so fast. Gradually increase to about 15-16 miles but over the course of the winter.

The weather has turned cooler and my reynauds disease has shown it's ugly head a couple of times. This is what my fingers looked like the other day (whilst shopping at tesco!). Apologies if the image comes out massive, uploaded straight from my phone.

[V8Wagon]

FairfieldSteve said:

Went out for a 5k last night....I've gone from not being able to run, to doing 5k in 45minutes, to running 10k consistently, a half marathon and now a new PB of 27:28 for a 5k in a year.

Keeping at it!

Good on you mate.

I too have gone from zero to hero

July 2012 I embarked on the couch potato to 5k program, and I now run 25-30 miles a week and have completed 2 full marathons, and 3 half's.

Have you lost weight too?

E65Ross said:

No, but when the buttons on my Garmin failed after having it for about 5 years Garmin sent me a refurbished unit for about £50. Couldn't really argue. Although yours isn't that old...

That's good service from Garmin. I don't have the box or the receipt for mine so didn't even try Garmin.

My battery arrived and with a bit of fat fingered faffing it appears to have a new lease of life.

It remains to be seen just how watertight it is now though.


My Dad's got that Renaud's thing going on with his fingers. It really gives him grief.

[FairfieldSteve]

V8Wagon said:

FairfieldSteve said:

Went out for a 5k last night....I've gone from not being able to run, to doing 5k in 45minutes, to running 10k consistently, a half marathon and now a new PB of 27:28 for a 5k in a year.

Keeping at it!

Good on you mate.

I too have gone from zero to hero

July 2012 I embarked on the couch potato to 5k program, and I now run 25-30 miles a week and have completed 2 full marathons, and 3 half's.

Have you lost weight too?

Thank you all! Down from 19stone to 16-ish at the moment, I have been down to 15.5 but had a month of recently with some health niggles. It's still a lot to run with but I enjoy being out there

[trooperiziz]

Parkrun today was terrible, Mrs T was taken ill halfway round so we had to stop (she's fine now), but I was feeling pretty rough at that point so wasn't too bothered about giving up!

My main issue is I need to strengthen my legs I think, I wasn't breathing hard, just having difficulty picking up my legs and moving forward.

[MC Bodge]

trooperiziz said:

My main issue is I need to strengthen my legs I think, I wasn't breathing hard, just having difficulty picking up my legs and moving forward.

That is quite fundamental indeed! It could be helpful to do some training on an incline. Unfortunately, it is virtually flat where I live.

[Sarkmeister]

lepetitoeuf said:

SiS have 40% off and free delivery over £10 all weekend - which makes them the cheapest around at £17.18 for a 1.6kg tub of Rego.

Offer ends at midnight on Monday:

http://www.scienceinsport.com/sis-products/

Cheers, I'll have a look at that. Could do with some gels as well as I'm training for a half and a full marathon at the moment.

[E65Ross]

Sarkmeister said:

lepetitoeuf said:

SiS have 40% off and free delivery over £10 all weekend - which makes them the cheapest around at £17.18 for a 1.6kg tub of Rego.

Offer ends at midnight on Monday:

http://www.scienceinsport.com/sis-products/

Cheers, I'll have a look at that. Could do with some gels as well as I'm training for a half and a full marathon at the moment.

I love all of their products and swear by them.... Except the gels. Too thick for me personally, and MUCH prefer the high5 ISO gels. More palatable and to a certain extent quench your thirst a little.