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[quote]A county council in the East Midlands has banned all so-called "boy racers" from its roads following complaints about noise and anti-social behaviour.
Nottinghamshire County Council and Nottinghamshire Police applied for the injunction from the county court.
The injunction prevents five or more vehicles from "congregating, driving in convoy, or racing" in the county.
The council said the move followed hundreds of complaints about noise and anti-social behaviour of drivers.
A similar injunction was obtained by Nottingham City Council in 2006 which applied to the city.
The injunction carries a maximum two year jail sentence for anyone found breaching the order.
It will remain in place for two years and then be reviewed.
The injunction is aimed at drivers of modified cars who race or "cruise" at impromptu rallies.
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Of course, it will never apply to groups like the BMW Car Club having a get together, or a PH run out, will it?
Fecking EEEEEJits!
[quote]A county council in the East Midlands has banned all so-called "boy racers" from its roads following complaints about noise and anti-social behaviour.
Nottinghamshire County Council and Nottinghamshire Police applied for the injunction from the county court.
The injunction prevents five or more vehicles from "congregating, driving in convoy, or racing" in the county.
The council said the move followed hundreds of complaints about noise and anti-social behaviour of drivers.
A similar injunction was obtained by Nottingham City Council in 2006 which applied to the city.
The injunction carries a maximum two year jail sentence for anyone found breaching the order.
It will remain in place for two years and then be reviewed.
The injunction is aimed at drivers of modified cars who race or "cruise" at impromptu rallies.
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Of course, it will never apply to groups like the BMW Car Club having a get together, or a PH run out, will it?
Fecking EEEEEJits!
Spokey said:
The injunction prevents five or more vehicles from "congregating, driving in convoy, or racing" in the county.
So they are banning all forms of traffic, which consists of more than 5 cars? Driving in convoy, as in getting stuck behind a caravan, traffic jam, everyone going the same way.They really haven't thought this through, plus it's against civil liberties, they can't do it as it's on a public road. If the vehicle is properly registered, taxed and insured they can't stop you.
If they are wanting to ban chavved up cars the archetypal "boy racer" why not just say it and not be all woolly about "5 cars or more". Cretins but then name a local council that isn't solely staffed by cretins, you can't.
Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 15th June 13:46
Nottinghamshire have been doing this crap for years now. I grew up in mansfield which had a popular "circuit" for all the barry boys to race their corsa's and punto's etc around. Which the council prompty redirected the route of so as to stop the chav's. Unfortunately this caused a large inconvenience to the rest of the traffic who could no longer turn right at a specific junction!
This particular council are generally inept when it comes to stopping these problems, and as mentioned all the boy racers will just be cruising around in groups of 4.
This particular council are generally inept when it comes to stopping these problems, and as mentioned all the boy racers will just be cruising around in groups of 4.
This is the full press release:
Boy racers’ have been banned from Nottinghamshire in what is believed to be the first countywide injunction of its kind in the country.
Nottinghamshire County Council and Nottinghamshire Police have worked in partnership to obtain an injunction that prevents ‘five or more motor vehicles from congregating together, driving in convoy or racing each other on the highway who by their conduct make excessive noise, cause danger to road users or risk injury or risk damage to property’.
The Order was made by the Nottingham County Court today. It will remain in place for 24 months, and may then be reviewed by the County Court.
The County Council and police decided to take action after hundreds of complaints from residents who have suffered the noise and anti social behaviour from ‘boy racers’ or ‘cruisers’ in a number of areas of Nottinghamshire.
In recent months, the A611 between junction 27 of the M1 and Hucknall has been a particular magnet for young people racing cars on a Sunday evening. Up to 500 other cars have also been filmed by police congregating on grass verges and central reservations in the area to watch the racing.
Residents in Mansfield have also put up with the problem from Thursday to Sunday evenings for many years with cars racing around the Mansfield ‘circuit’ along Quaker Way, St Johns Street, Clumber Street, Toothill Lane, Midworth Street, Albert Street and back onto Quaker Way. A number of measures have been taken to try and target the problem here, including changing the road layout and issuing dispersal orders, but these haven’t tackled the issue permanently.
A countywide injunction will give the police powers to serve the Order on anyone who is in breach of the terms of the Order anywhere in the county, with a maximum penalty of two years in prison and/or a fine. In the case of persistent offenders, the judge hearing the case may consider attaching a power of arrest to the Order.
A similar injunction was introduced in Nottingham City in October last year, which has dramatically reduced the problem. This latest injunction is believed to be the first in the UK that covers an entire county.
Councillor Glynn Gilfoyle, Cabinet Member for Community Safety and Partnerships, said: “Many people involved in the cruising scene are decent people, but their activities can create noise, nuisance and fear for our local residents. As well as the anti social behaviour impacts, racing around Nottinghamshire streets can also put the lives of the drivers and other road users in danger.
“We are delighted to be awarded this landmark injunction, which we believe will tackle the problem in the whole of Nottinghamshire, as it already has in the City area. We have worked very closely with the police and could not have achieved this without their valuable support.”
Inspector Sean Konsek from Nottinghamshire Police said: "To date Nottinghamshire Police have had to divert valuable resources into policing the gathering of 'boy racers' and cruisers. This has been in response, not only to massive complaints being made by members of the public, but also because a number of these 'boy racers’ have been involved in driving in a very dangerous and reckless manner.
“Nottinghamshire Police believe that this selfish and aggressive style of driving poses a very significant risk to other road users, as well as the racers themselves. We very much hope that this injunction will put a stop once and for all to this type of activity.”
Sergeant James Oliver from Nottinghamshire Police said: "I have been the Mansfield Town Centre sergeant now for two years and the main complaint I receive relates to ‘boy racers’. I don’t only get complaints from Mansfield residents, but also from visitors and businesses who are affected.
“Mansfield people have put up with the problem of noise, disruption and dangerous driving for long enough. They have been asking the police and their local authority to do something and now as a partnership we have.
“There is a small element of 'cruisers' who do actually just want to show off their cars to others, but this unfortunately has been ruined by the majority who have plagued our town with their poor driving standards and excessive noise. I hope this injunction will help us deliver our promise to those affected that we would tackle this problem.”
Boy racers’ have been banned from Nottinghamshire in what is believed to be the first countywide injunction of its kind in the country.
Nottinghamshire County Council and Nottinghamshire Police have worked in partnership to obtain an injunction that prevents ‘five or more motor vehicles from congregating together, driving in convoy or racing each other on the highway who by their conduct make excessive noise, cause danger to road users or risk injury or risk damage to property’.
The Order was made by the Nottingham County Court today. It will remain in place for 24 months, and may then be reviewed by the County Court.
The County Council and police decided to take action after hundreds of complaints from residents who have suffered the noise and anti social behaviour from ‘boy racers’ or ‘cruisers’ in a number of areas of Nottinghamshire.
In recent months, the A611 between junction 27 of the M1 and Hucknall has been a particular magnet for young people racing cars on a Sunday evening. Up to 500 other cars have also been filmed by police congregating on grass verges and central reservations in the area to watch the racing.
Residents in Mansfield have also put up with the problem from Thursday to Sunday evenings for many years with cars racing around the Mansfield ‘circuit’ along Quaker Way, St Johns Street, Clumber Street, Toothill Lane, Midworth Street, Albert Street and back onto Quaker Way. A number of measures have been taken to try and target the problem here, including changing the road layout and issuing dispersal orders, but these haven’t tackled the issue permanently.
A countywide injunction will give the police powers to serve the Order on anyone who is in breach of the terms of the Order anywhere in the county, with a maximum penalty of two years in prison and/or a fine. In the case of persistent offenders, the judge hearing the case may consider attaching a power of arrest to the Order.
A similar injunction was introduced in Nottingham City in October last year, which has dramatically reduced the problem. This latest injunction is believed to be the first in the UK that covers an entire county.
Councillor Glynn Gilfoyle, Cabinet Member for Community Safety and Partnerships, said: “Many people involved in the cruising scene are decent people, but their activities can create noise, nuisance and fear for our local residents. As well as the anti social behaviour impacts, racing around Nottinghamshire streets can also put the lives of the drivers and other road users in danger.
“We are delighted to be awarded this landmark injunction, which we believe will tackle the problem in the whole of Nottinghamshire, as it already has in the City area. We have worked very closely with the police and could not have achieved this without their valuable support.”
Inspector Sean Konsek from Nottinghamshire Police said: "To date Nottinghamshire Police have had to divert valuable resources into policing the gathering of 'boy racers' and cruisers. This has been in response, not only to massive complaints being made by members of the public, but also because a number of these 'boy racers’ have been involved in driving in a very dangerous and reckless manner.
“Nottinghamshire Police believe that this selfish and aggressive style of driving poses a very significant risk to other road users, as well as the racers themselves. We very much hope that this injunction will put a stop once and for all to this type of activity.”
Sergeant James Oliver from Nottinghamshire Police said: "I have been the Mansfield Town Centre sergeant now for two years and the main complaint I receive relates to ‘boy racers’. I don’t only get complaints from Mansfield residents, but also from visitors and businesses who are affected.
“Mansfield people have put up with the problem of noise, disruption and dangerous driving for long enough. They have been asking the police and their local authority to do something and now as a partnership we have.
“There is a small element of 'cruisers' who do actually just want to show off their cars to others, but this unfortunately has been ruined by the majority who have plagued our town with their poor driving standards and excessive noise. I hope this injunction will help us deliver our promise to those affected that we would tackle this problem.”
i agree with the sentiment of most posters..
..re; the cruizsarfend.com posse.
to a normal trafpol a ph sticker will be fine. BUT if they are forced to follow the letter of the law they won't be allowed to draw a distinction between a corsa with cruizsarfend.com and a tiv with pistonheads speed matters... speed matters... hmm. time to drop that part i'd suggest.
..re; the cruizsarfend.com posse.
to a normal trafpol a ph sticker will be fine. BUT if they are forced to follow the letter of the law they won't be allowed to draw a distinction between a corsa with cruizsarfend.com and a tiv with pistonheads speed matters... speed matters... hmm. time to drop that part i'd suggest.
Although....I get sick of the blinged up corsa crew at our local Macdonalds using the car park as "how loud is your stereo / how long can you wheel spin a 1.1 Ltr pile of crap" + Lets all buy a Big Mac and Fries and throw the packing out the window.....even though a bin is 10 yards away....
Edited by chrisw_05 on Friday 15th June 15:04
"an injunction that prevents five or more motor vehicles from congregating together, driving in convoy or racing each other on the highway who by their conduct make excessive noise, cause danger to road users or risk injury or risk damage to property"
Seems you can congregate so long as you don't do the bit in bold. Conversely, you can do the bit in bold so long as there are less than 5 cars doing it
Seems you can congregate so long as you don't do the bit in bold. Conversely, you can do the bit in bold so long as there are less than 5 cars doing it
Edited by apache on Friday 15th June 15:06
'five or more motor vehicles from congregating together, driving in convoy or racing each other on the highway who by their conduct make excessive noise, cause danger to road users or risk injury or risk damage to property’
Is this not a key phrase? If you are not doing those things, then I take it there is no problem. I doubt there is a definition of 'excessive noise', and there is risk involved in anything - who decides when the risk becomes too high?
It is a typical 'seen to be doing something' rule, which is unnecessary as there are already other laws that cover it. I'm sure that there must be several public order offences that can be used, the (slightly dodgy) section 59 power etc, and racing is already illegal.
Is this not a key phrase? If you are not doing those things, then I take it there is no problem. I doubt there is a definition of 'excessive noise', and there is risk involved in anything - who decides when the risk becomes too high?
It is a typical 'seen to be doing something' rule, which is unnecessary as there are already other laws that cover it. I'm sure that there must be several public order offences that can be used, the (slightly dodgy) section 59 power etc, and racing is already illegal.
Inspector Sean Konsek from Nottinghamshire Police said: "blah blah 'boy racers’ have been involved in driving in a very dangerous and reckless manner.
“Nottinghamshire Police believe that this selfish and aggressive style of driving poses a very significant risk to other road users, bla blah.”
Legislation already exists for this situation.
He also complained about resources being diverted to deal with the problem, well, unless resources are diverted to enforce the injunction it won't have any effect (or is that affect...?!).
Surely all this tomfoolery is picked up by the cameras that have replaced the policemen?
Sheesh, when will the buffoonery end?
“Nottinghamshire Police believe that this selfish and aggressive style of driving poses a very significant risk to other road users, bla blah.”
Legislation already exists for this situation.
He also complained about resources being diverted to deal with the problem, well, unless resources are diverted to enforce the injunction it won't have any effect (or is that affect...?!).
Surely all this tomfoolery is picked up by the cameras that have replaced the policemen?
Sheesh, when will the buffoonery end?
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