Powerboats beat sailing boats

[Silent1]

What's with all these nancies with sails, we invented the IC engine for a reason. Surely sail boats are now obsolete

Blue touch paper..........

[mdm123]

you would think that, but no some people have to be different or either just tight,

[tomTVR]

I much prefer powerboats. They usually go faster and can be used when there is no wind. Much easier to use and you get less wet on them. Beer coolers, leather seats and CD players are usually fitted. Also as petrolheads i feel that we should propagate the use of the IC engine on water.

That said powerboats are bloody expensive to run, our old bayliner was just about the most economical inboard you could buy and that did 7mpg at cruising. If you break down you are screwed.

Suppose sailing is a totally different sort of persuit, depending on the size of your boat (im thinking lazer type jobs) then its more of a watersport and less leisure activity.

[deevlash]

tomTVR said:

I much prefer powerboats. They usually go faster and can be used when there is no wind. Much easier to use and you get less wet on them. Beer coolers, leather seats and CD players are usually fitted. Also as petrolheads i feel that we should propagate the use of the IC engine on water.

That said powerboats are bloody expensive to run, our old bayliner was just about the most economical inboard you could buy and that did 7mpg at cruising. If you break down you are screwed.

Suppose sailing is a totally different sort of persuit, depending on the size of your boat (im thinking lazer type jobs) then its more of a watersport and less leisure activity.

watersport, fnaar fnaar

[tomTVR]

Half a day and the forum has been ruined

Hear that Barrymore has small buoys on his boat

[tank slapper]

I prefer sailing, but I can see the appeal of motor boats. I think I might get bored with one after a while though. I like that fact that you have to think about how you are going to go about making a passage when sailing rather than just casting off and going.

[XJSJohn]

... wondering if Ted and his minions should have perhaps divided this forum into two sections ...

perhaps something like "Stick and Rag merchants" and "Stinkboats" or whatever the yotties call powerboats.


Disclaimer - FWIW i enjoy sail and power aided boating!

[XJSJohn]

tank slapper said:

I prefer sailing, but I can see the appeal of motor boats. I think I might get bored with one after a while though. I like that fact that you have to think about how you are going to go about making a passage when sailing rather than just casting off and going.

to be fair, if you are doing achannel crossing in a motorboat you still have to do the same, tides and winds will cause drift, you have to plan how you intend to cross shipping lanes, and you have to ensure you make your landfall at the correct markers.

If you are doing this in a displacement boat it is also as important as in a yacht to ensure that you are uptide of your destination too ... especially if its somewhere like Cherbourg ... (not that i am speaking from experiance here you understand ... )

[tank slapper]

XJSJohn said:

to be fair, if you are doing achannel crossing in a motorboat you still have to do the same, tides and winds will cause drift, you have to plan how you intend to cross shipping lanes, and you have to ensure you make your landfall at the correct markers.

If you are doing this in a displacement boat it is also as important as in a yacht to ensure that you are uptide of your destination too ... especially if its somewhere like Cherbourg ... (not that i am speaking from experiance here you understand ... )

Race of Alderney?

Yes, what you say is true but wasn't quite what I meant. In a powerboat, you point it and go (correcting for tides etc). In a sailing boat you can't always do that, and planning a passage to make best advantage of the boat at different points of sail is all part of the fun. Once you have done that, then you still have to trim the boat to get the best performance.

[thewave]

These little puppies will exceed 30mph....that's fast for sails...

The Americas Cup boats will do similar speeds.

[MOTORVATOR]

thewave said:

These little puppies will exceed 30mph....that's fast for sails...

The Americas Cup boats will do similar speeds.

Pfft

call yourself a petrolhead...75mph 8.2litre petrol and it sounds and smells right with straight through exhausts Power rules

Edited by MOTORVATOR on Tuesday 26th June 19:01

[MOTORVATOR]

thewave said:

These little puppies will exceed 30mph....that's fast for sails...

The Americas Cup boats will do similar speeds.

Pfft

call yourself a petrolhead...75mph 8.2litre petrol and it sounds and smells right with straight through exhausts Power rules

Edited by MOTORVATOR on Tuesday 26th June 19:02

[Snoggledog]

tomTVR said:

Hear that Barrymore has small buoys on his boat

I thought that was Michael Jackson

[Vonlickensnatch]

Yeah i think that it sould be split! not that i dont like yachts i just think ph is all about speed. petrol or diesel powered speed! i may be wrong!??? my websites down at the mo due to big devlopments on the back end making it easyer for you guys to look ay the stunning boat porn on there!!!!! haha it should/better be up by thursday i hope!!!!

[tomTVR]

I think we were lucky enought to get just the one forum for boats tbh

[thewave]

Vonlickensnatch said:

Yeah i think that it sould be split! not that i dont like yachts i just think ph is all about speed. petrol or diesel powered speed! i may be wrong!??? my websites down at the mo due to big devlopments on the back end making it easyer for you guys to look ay the stunning boat porn on there!!!!! haha it should/better be up by thursday i hope!!!!

When you're hiking over the side of a sailing boat at nearly 30mph, believe me it feels fast, spray coming up into your face, can hardly see where you're going, it's really quite a superb feeling.

However, having been in some fast boats (albeit not as fast as Motivators!) I can see the appeal, and going fast on water, feels faster than being on tarmac when you're approaching 50knts.

[Vonlickensnatch]

try 105mph we have boats foe sale that will do stupid/fun speeds! thats try ph style.

[Snoggledog]

Try twin wiring with the kite up in a force 5 on a broad reach. The sheer exhilaration of having your arse skimming the wave tops at 25+ knots, looking up and realising that all that's holding you in place is a tiny bit of wire and some rubber on the bottom of your wet boots. Then having your shoulder muscles stretched to the mint of endurance as a gust hits and the spinney loads up even more.

Now that's an adrenaline rush.

Yeah.. speed matters. But the rush from sailing is just as satisfying as that of power boating. If you're not getting a good enough rush from sailing then either there's not enough wind, you're a chicken or you're not doing it right.

[Dominic H]

Snoggledog said:

Try twin wiring with the kite up in a force 5 on a broad reach. The sheer exhilaration of having your arse skimming the wave tops at 25+ knots, looking up and realising that all that's holding you in place is a tiny bit of wire and some rubber on the bottom of your wet boots. Then having your shoulder muscles stretched to the mint of endurance as a gust hits and the spinney loads up even more.

Now that's an adrenaline rush.

Yeah.. speed matters. But the rush from sailing is just as satisfying as that of power boating. If you're not getting a good enough rush from sailing then either there's not enough wind, you're a chicken or you're not doing it right.

Well said!
I have a Mastercraft Pro 190 tournament ski boat, and I've been slalom skiing for over 10 years. On the rare occasion I have been sailing I've had just as much fun at 5-10 knots as I have trying to run a slalom course at 36mph.....There's enough room for all of us on the water, there's certainly enough room on here....DPH

[Vonlickensnatch]

Dominic H said:

Snoggledog said:

Try twin wiring with the kite up in a force 5 on a broad reach. The sheer exhilaration of having your arse skimming the wave tops at 25+ knots, looking up and realising that all that's holding you in place is a tiny bit of wire and some rubber on the bottom of your wet boots. Then having your shoulder muscles stretched to the mint of endurance as a gust hits and the spinney loads up even more.

Now that's an adrenaline rush.

Yeah.. speed matters. But the rush from sailing is just as satisfying as that of power boating. If you're not getting a good enough rush from sailing then either there's not enough wind, you're a chicken or you're not doing it right.

Well said!
I have a Mastercraft Pro 190 tournament ski boat, and I've been slalom skiing for over 10 years. On the rare occasion I have been sailing I've had just as much fun at 5-10 knots as I have trying to run a slalom course at 36mph.....There's enough room for all of us on the water, there's certainly enough room on here....DPH

FOR SURE!!!!!!!