RS4 consumption and range. Just how bad is it?
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Circumstances may dictate the need for a bit more space soon, so I'm thinking about changing my Carrera S for an RS4. So, a quick question. Are they really as thirsty as everyone makes out? The 997 is averaging about 21mpg, with driving mainly made up of a daily London commute and the occasional blast up the A1 to the folks in Yorkshire. Will I get RSI from stopping to refuel every other day? Will I manage 200 miles up the motorway without stopping (the 997 manages about 300)? And perhaps even more importantly, will I enjoy it? (Actually, don't answer that last one, it's got 414bhp so I know I will
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)Drewtastic said:
Not convinced it will be quicker than a 'S'. It is a 'tuned' V8 though, so don't expect twenty anything fuel wise 
It all depends on how you drive it. I have the S4 and although it is not as highly tuned as the RS4 I can easily see mid 20's on the motorways avg 80. Beyond 80 and your looking at low 20's high teens. Similar figures should be achievable in the RS4 but it will depend on how you drive it.Edited by Drewtastic on Tuesday 24th July 11:35
trickywoo said:
Its a 63ltr tank so around 270 miles depending how strong your nerves are. If you ran it dry and got 24mpg that would give 330 miles.
Hi.I've got an B6 S4 Avant at home, and I drive an B7 RS4 from work on most weeks.
You'll definately see 300 miles on a tank - I've managed near identical long distance mileages out of both cars, giving effectively Luton to Dumfries on one tank, 320 miles.
Anything above 80 and the RS4 drinks lots of fuel. Also around town where I get circa 15mpg. On a London-Aberdeen run a couple of weeks ago (averaged 73mph according to computer) I got 24 mpg over that trip.
It is a quick car but having had 6 x 911's I would think a 997S would be slightly quicker. I know the RS4 is nowhere near as quick as my previous Twin Turbo, but then it has a good boot, 4 doors and lots of toys!
It is a quick car but having had 6 x 911's I would think a 997S would be slightly quicker. I know the RS4 is nowhere near as quick as my previous Twin Turbo, but then it has a good boot, 4 doors and lots of toys!
DaveMiddleton said:
It is a quick car but having had 6 x 911's I would think a 997S would be slightly quicker. I know the RS4 is nowhere near as quick as my previous Twin Turbo, but then it has a good boot, 4 doors and lots of toys!
To be honest, I'm prepared for a bit of a trade-off with regards to outright speed for the proper rear seats and practicality. And to be even more honest, I think the state of the traffic I drive in around London means I'm not really going to notice it. My overall average MPG over 5000 miles is 22.9 & although about 80% of that is motorway cruising at 85-90MPH, i like most do like the odd blat & do end up stuck in traffic & do across town commutes.
Range is defo around 300, as my regular journey from West Lancashire to Bracknell which is 216miles & assuming i leave on a full tank, leaves me with a good over 1/3 tank left when i arrive.
As for performance, i've never owned a 996 or 997, however i know my RS4 has scalped every 997CS i've traffic light GP'd, but i fully expect given the 997CS's better chassis & dynamics along with it's lower weight that across country in the dry it would no doubt match an RS4, perhaps even beat it. In the wet unless it's a C4S i'd expect the RS4 to take advantage.
Coming from a tuned E60 M5 & in the real world in our fabulous UK weather, the RS4 will make better progress 90% of the time that the M5 did.
Range is defo around 300, as my regular journey from West Lancashire to Bracknell which is 216miles & assuming i leave on a full tank, leaves me with a good over 1/3 tank left when i arrive.
As for performance, i've never owned a 996 or 997, however i know my RS4 has scalped every 997CS i've traffic light GP'd, but i fully expect given the 997CS's better chassis & dynamics along with it's lower weight that across country in the dry it would no doubt match an RS4, perhaps even beat it. In the wet unless it's a C4S i'd expect the RS4 to take advantage.
Coming from a tuned E60 M5 & in the real world in our fabulous UK weather, the RS4 will make better progress 90% of the time that the M5 did.
Oh ok then seeing as you asked:
7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.php?f=10&i=16841&am...
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
And that's with the mighty Mr Roehrl at the helm!
GK
7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.php?f=10&i=16841&am...
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
And that's with the mighty Mr Roehrl at the helm!
GK
trickywoo said:
EVO got low 20's out of their long termer (Barker is not known for having a light right foot either).
I've done nearly 17,000 miles now and the DIS is indicating an average of 19.8mpg on a mix of motorways, rural and town driving.trickywoo said:
I'd be more worried about a set of tyres every 14k at £240 a corner (they claimed to have phoned arround for that price as well).
They didn't try that hard then - I got mine for £220 a corner from Micheldever.daz9100 said:
trickywoo said:
EVO got low 20's out of their long termer (Barker is not known for having a light right foot either).
I've done nearly 17,000 miles now and the DIS is indicating an average of 19.8mpg on a mix of motorways, rural and town driving.trickywoo said:
I'd be more worried about a set of tyres every 14k at £240 a corner (they claimed to have phoned arround for that price as well).
They didn't try that hard then - I got mine for £220 a corner from Micheldever.http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyre-235-35-r19-...
I get about 18mpg but my mileage is of crap quality and when I get some open space I tend to give it an airing, range about 280. Motorways when I am not in the mood gives 23mg and 320 range.
If buying new get a quote on the FCM - fixed cost maintenance, which may prove economic for you. Mine is illogicaly cheap but I guess you do a lot more miles than me.
It really is a cracking car and I honestly don't yearn for the 996TT I had a deposit down on when wife announced she was pregnant. Still love them but pleasantly surprised how I now admire rather than feel any regret.
If buying new get a quote on the FCM - fixed cost maintenance, which may prove economic for you. Mine is illogicaly cheap but I guess you do a lot more miles than me.
It really is a cracking car and I honestly don't yearn for the 996TT I had a deposit down on when wife announced she was pregnant. Still love them but pleasantly surprised how I now admire rather than feel any regret.
Thanks for all the advice and opinions guys. Sounds like I wouldn't regret buying one then. However, a new plan has overrsteered into view. My good lady wife has pointed out that one of the reasons we needed something practical was so she would be able to drive it too. I've tried all the "but a car is only as fast as you drive it" lines, but she doesn't want 414bhp under her right foot. So my 997 is staying (for me). And it's going to be joined by a diesel 1-series, A3 or Golf (for her, and me every now and again.) I haven't worked out if everyone's a winner yet...
Edited by gmk666 on Friday 27th July 12:09
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