finding water leaks due to hoses
finding water leaks due to hoses
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sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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noticed a couple of water leaks, well not so much leaks more like weaps.

by the expansion tank there is a blue multi union. hose on right goes to rear turbo, this has persihed at the turbo end for the first few centimeters

from the same union there is a hose which goes down and under the car running forward, i think this is called a purge hose (dunno why) the first 10 cm or so of this have perished at the multi union so much that as i kept snipping it back it just kept splitting again.

had to splice in a bit of washing machine hose as an ermergancy measure,

the hose is 9.5mm bore, any tips on good stuff to use to replace it all with?. think it might be worth doing the whole bloooody coolant system whilst i am at it

Ash M400

3,836 posts

270 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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A mate of mine is in motorsports in a big way, he gets silcon pipes and tubes made. Don't know where, sorry.

Mine did the same, nothing to worry about, just keep her topped up till you get them replaced.

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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been looking on the net, it seems that most come in 1m lengths. not long enough for the run to the front

might have to ring around

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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anybody know where one can buy decent 9.5mm/ 3/8 hose off the roll. i think i am gonna replace all the hoses in one go. some of the runs are quite long though and i only seem to be able to find up to 1m long lenghts


Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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Err.....Pirtek it says it on the hose. they'll be in your local phone book. it's temp rating isn't quite high enough but it is what Noble used.

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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Adrian W said:
Err.....Pirtek it says it on the hose. they'll be in your local phone book. it's temp rating isn't quite high enough but it is what Noble used.
yeah i know but to be honest as the two hoses i have looked at have been pretty well shot and are only 3 odd years old i dont really wanna use the same again. i think i would prefer a decent silicon based hose that i wouldnt worry was gonna let me down.

if i really cant find any decent hose to run from front to back i am tempted to hard pipe it with copper and rund short hose at each end

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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Sean, this place does lengths upto 4m...

http://www.venairsport.co.uk/index.php?cPath=45

HTH


Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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alex s said:
Sean, this place does lengths upto 4m...

http://www.venairsport.co.uk/index.php?cPath=45

HTH
Hmmm tempting to change my turbo hoses for that stuff but is 10quid a metre a bit on the expensive side.

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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alex s said:
Sean, this place does lengths upto 4m...

http://www.venairsport.co.uk/index.php?cPath=45

HTH
thanks mate, will start looking into it

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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sean_goodman said:
noticed a couple of water leaks, well not so much leaks more like weaps.

by the expansion tank there is a blue multi union. hose on right goes to rear turbo, this has persihed at the turbo end for the first few centimeters

from the same union there is a hose which goes down and under the car running forward, i think this is called a purge hose (dunno why) the first 10 cm or so of this have perished at the multi union so much that as i kept snipping it back it just kept splitting again.

had to splice in a bit of washing machine hose as an ermergancy measure,

the hose is 9.5mm bore, any tips on good stuff to use to replace it all with?. think it might be worth doing the whole bloooody coolant system whilst i am at it
Sean,
I have used this company for silicone hose and duct for my business.
I know they used to do automotive pipes and tubing a while back, They may be worth a try as they might not be looking for a "motorsport" premium on their price?

Flexible Hose Supplies Ltd
692-693 Stirling Rd
Slough, SL1 4ST

Southern Sales: Slough 01753 570863
Midland Sales: Northampton 01604 762175
Northern Sales: Bolton 01204 541500

www.flexiblehose.co.uk
F.C.


sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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thanks mate, will give them a call and see

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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rang the company, they put me onto their automotive division, sadly they only do 1m lengths are are a bit more expensive per meter than the website above. venair also do 4m lenghts which is useful for the runs forwards.

thanks for the tip though

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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Just had the same thing happen to me ! The hose is just under 4 metres long and threads down the chassis (lots of tie wraps) . I went out and bought some identical quality hose from a local hose specialist (rating 10 bar , 150 psi ) and it split , in the same way in 1 night !frown ...So I am now buying some off goodridge as I'm not prepared to risk my engine again , as both times it was dark and it would have been so easy to run the engine dry ! frown Goodridge tel 01392 369090 hose type 536

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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nigelw said:
Just had the same thing happen to me ! The hose is just under 4 metres long and threads down the chassis (lots of tie wraps) . I went out and bought some identical quality hose from a local hose specialist (rating 10 bar , 150 psi ) and it split , in the same way in 1 night !frown ...So I am now buying some off goodridge as I'm not prepared to risk my engine again , as both times it was dark and it would have been so easy to run the engine dry ! frown Goodridge tel 01392 369090 hose type 536
gonna do all of mine in one go,
how did goodridge price compare to this web site?
http://www.venairsport.co.uk/index.php?cPath=45

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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sorry , I dunno ! ..I didnt ask the price but I dont think that the hose that I am buying is silicon , just good quality normal stuff , only problem is , its blue ...ah well . But it's a good idea to do em all at once ...another supplier of good silcon hoses is Samco ..worth getting a brochure ! smile

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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nigelw said:
Just had the same thing happen to me ! The hose is just under 4 metres long and threads down the chassis (lots of tie wraps) . I went out and bought some identical quality hose from a local hose specialist (rating 10 bar , 150 psi ) and it split , in the same way in 1 night !frown ...So I am now buying some off goodridge as I'm not prepared to risk my engine again , as both times it was dark and it would have been so easy to run the engine dry ! frown Goodridge tel 01392 369090 hose type 536
is there only the one hose at 4m long which runs from front to back? gonna order soon didnt wanna strip it all down to find i needed a second length


nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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the one that you describe (ie the one that went on mine as well ) is only a single hose that automatically bleeds the top of the rad and returns it to the system (purge) . It may only need 3.5 metres but with 4 metres i was able to do the job ok ...there arent two hoses cos it only brings water back . Hope that helps

Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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great thanks mate, i have been out and measured up all the 3/8 hoses with regards to length. to be honest outside of the special multihoses that is pretty much all of the coolant hoses catered for. i intend to order a load of hose and replace them all.

also gonna measure the vacumm pipe ID and do them at the same time.

the website mentioned above has all the stuff required including the long piece in a single 4m length.

bit of web shopping tonight i think

sean_goodman

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536 posts

232 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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all done, i used a total of 8m of 3/8 coolant hose, the hardest job was getting the old hose to part company with the nipples etc as they were well bonded on.

refilled with shell coolant which is girly pink, sadly the previous collant was green and as i didnt get all of it out it has mixed to a murky grey colour, think i will flush it through tonight with fresh water antil it runs clean and refill with fresh collant so it looks nice.

also got to drill out a couple of screws from the tuneel inspection covers as the heads sheared off when i removed them.

glad i changed all the hoses though as i was taking them out they were falling apart all over the place, i would suggest anybody with a 3/4 year old car to go and do a hose inspection!! dont just assume the service agent will have looked as my car was at plans for a 24m service just 3 weeks ago and they didnt spot it!

i also found the front under tray about 2" full of water, the drain holes were blocked by loads of small stones which i reckon came from when a previous owner may have had a track meeting with the kitty litter, plan to get the hoover in there later