08's are here......
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Jaguar sent me this virtual video.
www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/xk/models_pricing/models/x...
Why would they change the grill on the XK and replace it with the R's grill??? I found the 07 one way more beautiful than just plain mesh. No more antenna. I was thinking of removing the fuse that powers it, but it has grown on me (pun intended) and I actually kind of like it.
www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/xk/models_pricing/models/x...
Why would they change the grill on the XK and replace it with the R's grill??? I found the 07 one way more beautiful than just plain mesh. No more antenna. I was thinking of removing the fuse that powers it, but it has grown on me (pun intended) and I actually kind of like it.
I jsut dont understand whether they're subsidising the US market to keep the brand there, or whether they have plastic versions for there? I understand the "different spec" argument when it applies to regular cars, where the price difference is say a grand or two; but £30k FFS. There is no difference in spec that could justify that. And to think that they have to pay extra to export over there too.
Does anyone know the official reason?
Does anyone know the official reason?
kryten22uk said:
I jsut dont understand whether they're subsidising the US market to keep the brand there, or whether they have plastic versions for there? I understand the "different spec" argument when it applies to regular cars, where the price difference is say a grand or two; but £30k FFS. There is no difference in spec that could justify that. And to think that they have to pay extra to export over there too.
Does anyone know the official reason?
I think this applies to all cars. I remember years ago having a German friend who lived near the Porker factory. He said it was much cheaper to fly to the US, buy one there and then air freight it back home.Does anyone know the official reason?
kryten22uk said:
The pricing out there is outrageous too!! $86700 for XKR. Thats say £44000. But our prices are £70600 here.
Well the XF looks even worse the SV8 is quoted as £54,000 UK, In the states they're talking $65,000 / 2 (exchange rate) = £32,500!!!!!!!!! 
in the UK the base model 2.7d or 3.0 will cost £33,900. £21,500 difference between UK & US price for the SV8
a8hex said:
kryten22uk said:
I jsut dont understand whether they're subsidising the US market to keep the brand there, or whether they have plastic versions for there? I understand the "different spec" argument when it applies to regular cars, where the price difference is say a grand or two; but £30k FFS. There is no difference in spec that could justify that. And to think that they have to pay extra to export over there too.
Does anyone know the official reason?
I think this applies to all cars. I remember years ago having a German friend who lived near the Porker factory. He said it was much cheaper to fly to the US, buy one there and then air freight it back home.Does anyone know the official reason?
OK chaps, remember that US prices are quoted not including sales tax and others charges because it varies from state to state and that the UK prices include VAT.
Also remember that the USD & GBP rate has traditionally been about 1.5:1, and that hiking up the prices in the US massively for the XJ and XK (the only models with decades long continuity) at model changeover would be suicide.
This exchange rate is really hurting Jaguar. US sales of Jaguars have gone off a cliff, the official line is that they want to reduce US supply to improve US residuals and reduce exposure to exchange rate fluctuations. Not sure I entirely believe that but it is one way of looking at it positively.
Also remember that the USD & GBP rate has traditionally been about 1.5:1, and that hiking up the prices in the US massively for the XJ and XK (the only models with decades long continuity) at model changeover would be suicide.
This exchange rate is really hurting Jaguar. US sales of Jaguars have gone off a cliff, the official line is that they want to reduce US supply to improve US residuals and reduce exposure to exchange rate fluctuations. Not sure I entirely believe that but it is one way of looking at it positively.
Hopefully when Jag gets sold they can stop bending over for the americans and treat us in the UK better. I didnt mind the price i paid, as its about right in the uk market, but when you see it elsewhere for less, thats what hurts. So maybe they will be able to stop using us to subsidise the losses made in the states soon.
wheeljack said:
OK chaps, remember that US prices are quoted not including sales tax and others charges because it varies from state to state and that the UK prices include VAT.
Also remember that the USD & GBP rate has traditionally been about 1.5:1, and that hiking up the prices in the US massively for the XJ and XK (the only models with decades long continuity) at model changeover would be suicide.
This exchange rate is really hurting Jaguar. US sales of Jaguars have gone off a cliff, the official line is that they want to reduce US supply to improve US residuals and reduce exposure to exchange rate fluctuations. Not sure I entirely believe that but it is one way of looking at it positively.
My heart bleeds for them. Look at the second hand values? The truth is we get ripped off because they can get away with it. There's no need to speculate - take a look on the official Porsche website at the price of second hand 911's. Its a joke,man.Also remember that the USD & GBP rate has traditionally been about 1.5:1, and that hiking up the prices in the US massively for the XJ and XK (the only models with decades long continuity) at model changeover would be suicide.
This exchange rate is really hurting Jaguar. US sales of Jaguars have gone off a cliff, the official line is that they want to reduce US supply to improve US residuals and reduce exposure to exchange rate fluctuations. Not sure I entirely believe that but it is one way of looking at it positively.
cardigankid said:
My heart bleeds for them. Look at the second hand values? The truth is we get ripped off because they can get away with it. There's no need to speculate - take a look on the official Porsche website at the price of second hand 911's. Its a joke,man.
So when the pound hit 2:1 against the dollar, Jaguar should have told all their dealers in the US to hike the prices up by 30% ?Edited by wheeljack on Saturday 15th September 01:43
steelej said:
kryten22uk said:
Hopefully when Jag gets sold .....
I've been hearing rumours that Ford are having second thoughts about the sale of Jag/LR.John.
Ford want to set up a VEBA health & pensions trust fund for all the unionised US workers & retirees, and they need a shit load of cash to do it. So JLR goes, and Volvo is next.
I wonder if people here really know what the realistic alternatives are to Ford ownership, they certainly don't fill me with optimism!
Edited by wheeljack on Saturday 15th September 01:43
Yes, the american prices are cheaper but not as cheap as mentioned for the reason mentioned above - Goods Sales Tax and state taxes. On average add 20% to any prices you see over the pond. Anyway, at least we are better off than Canada - there there is a national tax on the sale of second hand cars and there is no getting away with it either. They get out their version of the Glass's Guide and no matter what you paid (say half cash, half cheque) you'll be taxed on their estimation of the value if you want to get a number plate for it.
Guys I too was mighty pi$$ed off with the difference in pricing of Jags in the USA compared to UK. I am in Arizona at the moment and popped along to the North Scotsdale Jag dealership. Its on a 43 acre, yes 43 acre site! Which also houses LR, Volvo, Porsche, Audi. They have a test track and a LR offroad course. The yanks sure know how to do it right! Anyway the new XKR's the have on sale were just over $100k, plus about 10% tax. Yes they are still cheaper but Jag don't work their long term pricing strategy on daily currency markets. The $ is at an all time high, the average has always been £1:$1.5, which brings the price of the cars to UK levels. The latest word from Alan Greenspan is that he expects the US interest rates to go double digits in future, which will weaken the £:$ rate to bring it back down to its norm.
The good news is that the new XK's are selling well, roll on the XF.
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The good news is that the new XK's are selling well, roll on the XF.
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