XH558...

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Richjam said:

Some people saying it was rolled over Grantham https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIVtWN7cgso&feat... difficult to say from the stills but its certainly close!

Definitely looked like it rolled, it just seemed like an odd thing to do on what we thought was the cruise home. Everyone that just stopped to watch it complained though .

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Regiment said:

Richjam said:

Some people saying it was rolled over Grantham https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIVtWN7cgso&feat... difficult to say from the stills but its certainly close!

Definitely looked like it rolled, it just seemed like an odd thing to do on what we thought was the cruise home. Everyone that just stopped to watch it complained though .

All I'm getting is "Video removed by user"
But XH558 regularly banked beyond 90' but never inverted - which is what most people call a roll, as in Barrel Roll

[Riley Blue]

Southport, Sept 19th - not the best photo but it shows how 558 is flown in a wing over.

[Nigel_O]

some of my poor photos from Gaydon

It came in pretty low...



photography into the sun.... - heavy crop



almost over....

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Nigel_O said:

some of my poor photos from Gaydon

almost over....

Good shots Nigel. With the last, was that as '558 left? the usual climb and wingover?

[Nigel_O]

Mutley said:

Good shots Nigel. With the last, was that as '558 left? the usual climb and wingover?

Yes - just before it left - was starting to get dusty by then....

[Mojocvh]

Oldred_V8S said:

Mojocvh said:

"As I said earlier staff from RR have been pulled out of retirement"

kicking and screaming I'd imagine.


Pulled out of retirement Oh do come on...

Well not forced but were asked if they wanted to help and have done. Why would the ground crew lie?

It's poets day perhaps?

[RoverP6B]

Even charities sometimes have to be prepared to pay market rates, or at least something toward the cost of an engineering project such as this. R-R already donated their services in getting the aircraft back in the air when they'd just won the big A380 contract.

[woodypup59]

I recall the story of the development of Thrust SSC.

After several test runs, not quite exceeding the record, its said that Richard Noble rang RR and did his usual magic smooth talking.

The following day, a RR rep arrived with a box of the very latest trick blades for the Spey engines and the record was broken.

Big Kudos to RR as far as I'm concerned.

We need them to do the same now.

Edited by woodypup59 on Tuesday 6th October 10:53

[RoverP6B]

R-R have already kept the Vulcan flying for eight years basically free of charge...

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RoverP6B said:

R-R have already kept the Vulcan flying for eight years basically free of charge...

So I go back and say, RR should be making something off that, so they get some marketing credit, that is poor mgnt on their part, then they might want to continue....

[RoverP6B]

They're getting the PR off it, but they want some money too...

[Riley Blue]

Having looked at VTTS's 2014 accounts I can see why RR might feel they're due a bob or two...

[aspender]

Southern route for Sunday: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zJoGZd3-Q...

Also announced that this weekend are not the final flights.

[Hard-Drive]

aspender said:

Southern route for Sunday: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zJoGZd3-Q...

Also announced that this weekend are not the final flights.

Can't open it...is it posted elsewhere?

[yorkieboy]

Grrrr going right past my house in Bristol, I'll be In St.Tropez that day. Can't win.

[Riley Blue]

Hard-Drive said:

aspender said:

Southern route for Sunday: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zJoGZd3-Q...

Also announced that this weekend are not the final flights.

Can't open it...is it posted elsewhere?

That looks like the provisional route released last week, not the finalised route due out today.

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Riley Blue said:

Having looked at VTTS's 2014 accounts I can see why RR might feel they're due a bob or two...

from the published accounts i see online, any charge from rr is not in any way itemised, nor the costs from marshalls etc, so given an annual operating budget of approx £2m for the whole program, how much would RR expect? and realistically what impact would it make on their bottom line? At most the trust could afford a few hundred thousand( if people donated more) and RR 1H15 turnover was £6.3bn.(order book £76bn) with profit at approx £500m per 6 month period.

I get they are a business and they are there to make money, but as marshalls and the trust do most of the work on the aircraft, and the book value of these supposed spare engines must be zero after being unwanted for 20 years, what has been the real cost?

[RoverP6B]

Riley Blue said:

Having looked at VTTS's 2014 accounts I can see why RR might feel they're due a bob or two...

I haven't seen them, won't have time to look into them, can you summarise?

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RoverP6B said:

I haven't seen them, won't have time to look into them, can you summarise?

they are published on the web, just look for vtts annual accounts. they won't tell you much